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J PAUL
02-04-2009, 02:48 AM
I need help concerning the 52 Garnet Red Chevy color for a 1969 Nova. Does anyone have the right GM formula versus the fire engine red color that seems to be out there? How do I get as close to original as possible?

Jeff

Salvatore
02-04-2009, 03:20 AM
Get a hold of Mike Angelo. (M22Mike) He is a good guy to talk with. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

m22mike
02-04-2009, 04:29 AM
Thanks Sammy
I won't be much help with that, best bet would be to match to the original paint if there is any http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Like the underside of the trunk.
I did this a few years ago with 66 Regal Red. Took a hood louver to the PPG store and my paint mix guy shot it with the ppg prophet gun and used the formula the computer came up with , perfect match.
Maybe someone else here has shot Garnet ?? Shoney ??

Mike

beater68427
02-04-2009, 04:53 AM
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I need help concerning the 52 Garnet Red Chevy color for a 1969 Nova. Does anyone have the right GM formula versus the fire engine red color that seems to be out there? How do I get as close to original as possible?

Jeff

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On my red 68 I just had some PPG single stage mixed, real real close, the trunk is perfect original and I flashed a card aginst it first, Looks great!, If you go BC it will never be the same as oem, if you are looking for a oem look your best bet is single stage. If you have any good paint on your car trunk lid inside door, any major paint supplier can scan it. But PPG does have mix color for your code, as most major brands of paint. If your looking for bc coat you will need to scan it the mix codes are off they were never bc coat.

J PAUL
02-04-2009, 05:32 AM
Thanks for the input. Keep it coming.

Jeff

WILMASBOYL78
02-04-2009, 05:39 AM
Karen likes Garnet Red http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/384845-tn_IMG_0220.jpg

Xplantdad
02-04-2009, 05:56 AM
That Camaro is cool...It'd make a great Members Ride http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

WILMASBOYL78
02-04-2009, 07:09 AM
OK Bruce...soon as the weather gives us a window...I will get some pics and hook you up.

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

L30M20
02-04-2009, 07:16 AM
Glasurit,, thats the only one we'll use.C

m22mike
02-04-2009, 07:20 AM
I also would consider using single stage since the Garnet red is a solid color, problem is alot of painters don't like to use it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
I always hate lookin at BC CC under flourescent lights http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Mike

L30M20
02-04-2009, 07:23 AM
Mike, Hate is a pretty strong word, don't you agree? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Schonyenko2
02-04-2009, 08:11 AM
We're pretty close on 70 Cranberry red, but nothing on Garnet. If you can find a jobber that can still mix laquer, have him mix you a pint, and spray it out as a guide to scan off for bc/cc. Dupont Centari if mixed from the old formula can work also. Generally solids take less tweaking, but I'm not the painter. I just hang the sheetmetal. Pm JustBadJoe. He shoots the color.

L78M22Rag
02-04-2009, 09:25 AM
Here's my Garnet Red convert next to my nephew's original paint coupe. Let me tell ya, it's a tough color to get right... and no, I don't think mine is exactly right either!
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/Picture007.jpg

L78M22Rag
02-04-2009, 09:30 AM
The color looks entirely different in every varying shade of light...
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/L78Camaroconv.jpg

m22mike
02-04-2009, 04:17 PM
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Mike, Hate is a pretty strong word, don't you agree? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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Ok..OK..Craig, how about " I don't car for " http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Helmut..I love your red cars http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif Garnet Red is very rich looking.
Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

J PAUL
02-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Guys I sure appreciate the help. The color in photo of the two Camaro's is what I am looking for.

Thanks

Xplantdad
02-05-2009, 05:23 AM
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OK Bruce...soon as the weather gives us a window...I will get some pics and hook you up.

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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Awesome Tom! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

jeff morocco
02-05-2009, 05:50 AM
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OK Bruce...soon as the weather gives us a window...I will get some pics and hook you up.

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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Awesome Tom! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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translation.......6 more weeks at least...pesky groundhog.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

Woj
02-06-2009, 12:55 AM
Here are a couple more pix of a low mileage, garnet red, original paint 69 Malibu.

Phil Woj

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/69malibu_pittsfield_ma.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/69Malibu_garnetred7.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/69Malibu_garnetred5.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii116/Woj1969/69Malibu_garnetred4.jpg

WILMASBOYL78
02-06-2009, 04:30 AM
Nice malibu..

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

1969grb
02-06-2009, 06:46 AM
Ok Phil, Where have you been hiding that one. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Grady

Woj
02-06-2009, 01:14 PM
Grady,

That is one that got away. It had a 6 banger in it. Mileage around 20K.

Phil Woj.

CamarosRus
04-14-2009, 05:49 AM
Juat an ole mediocre survivor, but Cranbeery red........


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/70%20Camaro%20RS%20SS%20350%204Spd/AllChevyShow.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/70%20Camaro%20RS%20SS%20350%204Spd/IM000719.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/70%20Camaro%20RS%20SS%20350%204Spd/tn_IMG_1009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/CamarosRus/70%20Camaro%20RS%20SS%20350%204Spd/tn_IMG_1022.jpg

BARNFOUND YENKO
04-14-2009, 09:22 AM
More garnet red http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m204/rosebud_017/1969droptop038.jpg

L78M22Rag
04-14-2009, 11:26 PM
Hey Paul, are you ever going to get a roof on that ride? Nice car!!

L78M22Rag
04-14-2009, 11:52 PM
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Guys I sure appreciate the help. The color in photo of the two Camaro's is what I am looking for.

Thanks

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Since you like the color of my Garnet Red convertible above, I took a piece of the car (since the weather still sucks) to a paint supply shop the other day and they matched the color of my car to one of their charts as close as possible. The code they gave me is: Glasurit 8517M or BASF 225050. I'm not a paint guy, so don't ask me what that means.

I should point out that up-close my convertible looks much darker than my nephew's faded but original paint coupe... but from twenty feet (as in the photo above) the cars look very similar. Likewise, my convetible is a few shades darker than the 1969 dealer album paint chip, but even that chip could have faded over the years. I originally matched my convertible's paint from an original paint garnet red Z28 from paint under the trunk weatherstrip.

If you need a different code, let me know and I'll either give you the paint supply guy's name/number or call him to get what info you need.

Hope that helps!