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GRB
02-26-2009, 05:08 PM
I need a good contact for an off shore 'cut & sew' company. We have tried to have the product built here but it is just not possible. Need a company that makes things like stuffed toys, pillows...that sort of thing. Quality is a must.

Salvatore
02-26-2009, 05:17 PM
Nobody here will do that for you? The knitting mills and clothing factories (used to be) in the Northeast area of this country won't do it. What a shame another product sent overseas. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif I give you credit for trying! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

x Baldwin Motion
02-26-2009, 06:52 PM
What about Mrs. Frank Gifford? Hasn't she got people who do that?

Dog427435
02-26-2009, 08:15 PM
It's nothing new that you can't get this done here. I was a Customhouse Broker out of JFK in the seventies - you could not believe the boatloads of fabrics we sent to the Philippines everyday to be cut, sewn and returned!

ANDY M
02-26-2009, 09:54 PM
PM sent

Kim_Howie
02-26-2009, 10:17 PM
Quality is must. And your looking to china. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

JChlupsa
02-26-2009, 10:25 PM
I have about 30 old Filipina Ladies on my block What you got http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

427TJ
02-26-2009, 10:35 PM
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Quality is must. And your looking to china. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

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Kim, Commie labor is cheaper.

JoeG
02-26-2009, 10:56 PM
If you get your products made in China just make sure they put "Caution, these pillows may be hazardous to your health" tags on...

JChlupsa
02-26-2009, 11:42 PM
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If you get your products made in China just make sure they put "Caution, these pillows may be hazardous to your health" tags on...

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and in ENGLISH http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

GRB
02-27-2009, 06:57 PM
Thanks Andy. This is just another example of free mkt. economics. The product needs to retail for under $100. It will cost me close to $50 to have it built here in the US. That means retail will have to be $150-$200.
The consensus of focus groups, friends and sellers is that this product will be a hot seller at $99 and will be relegated to a boutique item at a higher price.

My hope was that this product would have a Made in America tag on it. Should I ignore what the mkt. says and risk losing millions of dollars in sales? Would you?

We tax our American businesses at the second highest rate in the world. The policies of this new administration are going to make doing business in the US virtually impossible.

firstgenaddict
02-27-2009, 11:48 PM
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Thanks Andy. This is just another example of free mkt. economics. The product needs to retail for under $100. It will cost me close to $50 to have it built here in the US. That means retail will have to be $150-$200.
The consensus of focus groups, friends and sellers is that this product will be a hot seller at $99 and will be relegated to a boutique item at a higher price.

My hope was that this product would have a Made in America tag on it. Should I ignore what the mkt. says and risk losing millions of dollars in sales? Would you?

We tax our American businesses at the second highest rate in the world. The policies of this new administration are going to make doing business in the US virtually impossible.

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The government will blame the hemoraging of jobs on American Businesses instead of looking in the mirror...

ChevyThunder
02-27-2009, 11:54 PM
Yeah... this guy
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/ChevyThunder/Characters/51K91RJAS2L__SL500_AA280_.jpg

DarrenX33
02-28-2009, 02:03 AM
No offense Ray but IMHO I don't think the home of the American Musclecar is the place to post a thread like this. I'd like to come to this site to see discussions about cars and I figure so do many others. Just seems wrong on so many levels. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

Again, not trying to be disrespectful.

TDW
02-28-2009, 03:22 AM
Wow, it's just hard to beleive that with all the jobs being lost to the Chineese that someone here in the US isn't willing to take on this job. Makes me shake my head. (Mods...If my post is considered "political", feel free to junk it.)

x Baldwin Motion
02-28-2009, 04:49 AM
Well, I really didn't want to mention anything here where the world can see it because the line is already always out the door but.... This is the best China connection going!!






http://www.angryasianman.com/images/angry/takeout.jpg

GRB
02-28-2009, 06:00 PM
Sorry Darren X33 but I think that's why this is called the "Lounge". It is a place where we can talk about things that are 'not' car related.
In fact the non-car value of this site has been demonstrated by the fact that a member here has contacted me with information that may be very helpful.
Personally, I don't see how anybody could have a problem with that.

As to the fact that we probably won't be able to build this product in the U.S.: my partner and I have traveled to three different U.S. mfgs. to meet face to face with good American companies that want desperately to get into our product's mkt. We left the last one knowing this was a company we wanted to partner with. Our retail sellers have told us what the product needs to sell for. The price they agree on virtually set in stone. They know their business. I don't. U.S. makers put our product at a price the public will not pay. Our product would be relegated to boutique status.

This is the way the free mkt. works. The end user is king. He decides what he will pay and every other decision has to be based on that fact. Try selling gas on one corner for $4 when the guy across the street has it for $3. It's that simple.

Here's where the lounge can really shine....help me find a U.S. mfg. that will build my product at a price that is at least competitive, same ballpark, with the off shore mfgs. and I will give them the business!

Mr70
02-28-2009, 06:08 PM
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Kim_Howie
02-28-2009, 07:02 PM
Not until the Gov. starts taxing imported products to point when manufactures in this country can compete. You will see this happen every time. We have always want it cheap. We have screwed ourselves. It's our own fault. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

budnate
02-28-2009, 07:27 PM
Exactly! I would add it needs to be a even playing field with items taxed coming and going, I would be interested in reading factual data at todays trading rates, years ago I read in Time how bad our stuff going into other countries was taxed it was almost pointless to ship it and there stuff coming into the US from the same ports was barely taxed, I say play fair bend us at there border same goes here

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Not until the Gov. starts taxing imported products to point when manufactures in this country can compete. You will see this happen every time. We have always want it cheap. We have screwed ourselves. It's our own fault. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

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DarrenX33
02-28-2009, 08:22 PM
Ray- I appreciate that you didn't take it personal. I work in an industry where I have watched people loose jobs to outsourcing for 20 years so it kinda hits home to me. Others like your local bartender who have never experienced it may not have a clue but again it was just my opinion. Good luck with your outsourcing. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Schonyenko2
02-28-2009, 09:05 PM
Kim, and Bud are correct. I agree. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif The other option is to subsidize American mfg. That's something that free mkt believers seem to resist. I agree with them, if the playing field is equal. Obviously with vast numbers of workers in China that work for very little, an equal playing field isn't going to happen.
There is a re awakening to the quality, and safety of American products. And a sense that we need to build, and manufacture our own products. Maybe if you market your product that way, people will still buy it even if it costs a little more.
I would have paid more for a fishing pole for my grand kids if I could have found one.
Good luck, and keep trying.

Kim_Howie
02-28-2009, 09:15 PM
Fishing poles,grandt rods,natuilus, rigwraps. WANT TO BUY AMERICAN TRY www.americansworking.com (http://www.americansworking.com) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

JoeG
02-28-2009, 10:50 PM
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Kim, and Bud are correct. I agree. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif The other option is to subsidize American mfg. That's something that free mkt believers seem to resist. I agree with them, if the playing field is equal. Obviously with vast numbers of workers in China that work for very little, an equal playing field isn't going to happen.
There is a re awakening to the quality, and safety of American products. And a sense that we need to build, and manufacture our own products. Maybe if you market your product that way, people will still buy it even if it costs a little more.
I would have paid more for a fishing pole for my grand kids if I could have found one.
Good luck, and keep trying.

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100% Correct---------I buy a fair amount of outdoor gear and when "available" I buy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif and even though that particular product might cost more ,it always..let me repeat that..it always outlast the Japan ..China..Taiwan..Bangladash..Korean..etc..made products twice as long. So really in the long run you wind up buying 2 to every 1 American made product.....
Short Story and then I'll get off my soap box...I bought an American made car cover for my car..now, it did cost more than the foreign made one but I told the seller the reason I was buying his car cover was because it was made in the U.S.A....He was so appreciative he took money off the cost...the bottom line is you can't beat the quaility of well made American products in the long run----the end http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif.. oh yeah....very http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif website Kim Howie http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

MrsBillyBobcat
02-28-2009, 11:04 PM
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Fishing poles,grandt rods,natuilus, rigwraps. WANT TO BUY AMERICAN TRY www.americansworking.com (http://www.americansworking.com) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

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THANKS for that link Kim! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

There's a company (on that list) that makes lures located here in the Detroit area. They have been in business for over 100 yrs! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

Eppinger Manufacturing-"America's Fishing Lure" (http://eppinger.net/cgi-bin/index.pl?fs=0&init=1)

Here's the "Old Street Scene" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/390714-eppinger.jpg

Chevy454
02-28-2009, 11:15 PM
It's been a few years since my history classes so forgive me if I err, but wasn't Atlanta [& the surrounding area] the hub for textiles at some point? And, does ayone else shudder to think what would have happened had we had *our current* manufacturing climate/base back in the early 1940s when WW2 came knocking? We were able to simply retool our factories *then*...but what if a similar situation arises *now*...we don't have anything to retool!?! We'd better hope China is fighting on our side should something happen, or else we're screwed! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

On a related note...for those folks who are drawn to Chineese produced goods and the economic advantage they carry [regardless of quality] the market continues to grow, and can now carry your *frugality* into eternity...a couple of companies in the U.S. have now started pushing Chineese made caskets! The first year or so they were of noticably poor quality, and distribution was almost non-existent, but they've addressed and fixed a lot of the issues, and more and more funeral homes are getting on board. When a sales rep came by our offices, we told them "no thanks", but I wonder if the decision will be so cut & dry several years down the road, if more and more of our local competitors jump ship to the Chineese products?

Salvatore
02-28-2009, 11:55 PM
You guys got some real good points. It is no longer a level playing field. As we push more and more to Socialism we are only catching up to the other countries that have been in that state for many years. Not really a free market capitalistic venue anymore. Most Govts have been backing there industry for years. I don't care if we don't tax our companies or if we even work for much more than $1.00 an hour we still can't compete very well. We have to have free trade with the countries that have the same or close to the same life style and programs we do. How were we so strong and profitable in the 50's,60's,70's and part of the eighties? We competed then, and the Unions were even stronger in those days. What happened? Its just like people selling musclecars, houses, antiques etc. Some people want to make a living and other people want to make a KILLIN! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Know what Ray, I believe you already knew the answer to the question you were asking.

Chevy454
03-01-2009, 12:16 AM
Maybe we need to remind China of the Marshall plan...think they'd reciprocate the help? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

GRB
03-01-2009, 07:09 PM
Darren, I haven't given up on having at least some of the product built here. I have a company named Pet Goods Mfg. no more than 20 miles up 400 (Buckhead to Dahlonaga). They could build and sell my product but they won't even talk to me!! The first time I chalked it up to incompetence. After two more tries I just said to hell with them. Maybe they consider me competition. Idiots. (Google Pet Goods Mfg. in Dahlonaga, GA.....just call them and ask what the hell their problem is!) Is this typical of American mfgs??

We have the second highest corp. tax in the world. And we could debate tariffs until the cows come home and never get anywhere. I have no problem with tax breaks (subsidy). If that just allowed the U.S. to be competitive it would bring in billions of dollars of revenue. Right now we are not even close.

I could have the product built 20 miles from my house but instead I have go half way around the world to have it built. Crazy.

csx289
03-01-2009, 07:23 PM
Joe at the Parts Place in Illinois has everything made in China - it is the American way to clone rare cars! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif