Another BW Camaro

[m19gale]

I have looked at this site for a while and always thought it was beneficial. Here is a car i just worked a sweatheart deal from my uncle. It is certified from Joel in 2000 as a Phase III. 20K original miles. Too fun to drive, but will be asking people questions in the future, so good to at least introduce myself.

[m19gale]

meant BM, too late in the day, plus driving it has messed my head up, sorry!

[MosportGreen66]

More pictures asap! And welcome to the site.

[m19gale]

will do, not the best with camera as i should, will post more tonight

[x Baldwin Motion]

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.........Too fun to drive.........

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I am still waiting to have "too much fun" !!

Welcome, nice ride. Please share the history and more photos!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Born30YrsLate]

VERY NICE...what are the specs on the car?...what did Joel all do to the car...love the color combo...more pics would be awesome too! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[m19gale]

Here is the history from what i can remember that my uncle has told me. I should get him on here to verify, i am sure his story would be better than mine, but here i go....
The car was sold in 3-31-69, at least this is the build sheet or bill of lading shows, not up to terms 100% as to what is what, but it was bought by a person in Elyria, OH by a younger person that possibly put it in his mothers name. I have the original pop, and this is a guess by me since the last names are the same one the pop and build sheet, but first names are different. Supposivly the younger person died, she kept the car for some time in which a dealer found it and bought it. This person mainly dealt with rolls, bently, etc and did not want to keep it. He put it in hemmings around 1983 as just a 427 camaro. At that time it had around 8K miles a believe. My uncle knew that if this was a true 427, possibly there was something special about it. Long story short, he bought it, but the dealer did not say that it was a BM for sure. Which is rare these days being honest since there are so many clones etc passing as the real deal. My uncle was a car nut and basically kept it and showed it locally for a while. I have always been into cars, so he let work something out that will keep the car in the family. He (my uncle) had it certified by Joel in 2000 and i have the certificate of authenticity. It is the original paint color and original paint on 95% of the car. Black is a pretty color, but a pain to keep clean.
From what i can read and decifer from the build sheet, the following was done

G5 427 conversion (PHIII)
hurst w/ T handle
air lifts
wood wheel
side exhaust
PHIII striping
tap cat kit
inglewood tires
radius rear fenderwall
ignition package
high rpm shutoff
M22 trans
hurst shifter
traction bars
dual fuel pump
stinger hood
It does have the RS/SS package, with consol
there might be more, but i came from a firebird backgound so there is much to learn!

[owners2]

Post more pics !!!!!! Sweet looken ride....

[motionwannabe]

always nice to see another Baldwin Motion show up. Congrats

[Dog427435]

COOL - Beautiful car!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Lets see some more shots!

[Atuckman]

my new favorite...

[m19gale]

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[motionwannabe]

Hey, m19gale when you posting more pics? i cant wait to see this car

[PeteLeathersac]

Whttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gifW!!!

Simply amazing what can pop up here at any given moment.http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif.

Welcome Mike!http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
~ Pete
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[m19gale]

Is there an easy way to add pics to a open forum? Got 3 more pics to send and having a blank thought on the easy way, dont see where to add the attachment, once i figure it out, more pics will come!

[DarrenX33]

Need to get you on photobucket. In the meantime you can send them to me and I'll post them..

[email protected]

[Born30YrsLate]

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Is there an easy way to add pics to a open forum? Got 3 more pics to send and having a blank thought on the easy way, dont see where to add the attachment, once i figure it out, more pics will come!

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This works well...Bruce's gift that keeps on giving... click me (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/199732/an/0/page/0#Post199732)

[DarrenX33]

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[ORIGLS6]

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What's that Bad Boy got hanging from the mirror? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

Pretty rare ride Mike. Welcome aboard and Congrats on the acquisition!

[Denis]

O M F G ! !

That is one bee-you-tee-full ride. Congratulations.

[JoeG]

Amazing what keeps surfacing....Congrats on your score...When you get a chance,post some engine shots..etc.

[m22mike]

Great Camaro Mike...welcome aboard.
Does that car have Custom Guts too ?
More pic's http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

Mike

[YenkoYS-199Stinger]

Mike, WELCOME !!!!!

Awesome machine...
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[AutoInsane]

Ok, when will this be at a car show in Penn??

[x Baldwin Motion]

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[x Baldwin Motion]

What's that Bad Boy got hanging from the mirror? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif


I had one of those too. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif had fun installing it also

[motionwannabe]

WOW!!!! THAT IS AWESOME

[m19gale]

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[Nova Jed]

Love the car! Is there any way that you could take a picture of how the side pipe exhausts are hooked up underneath?

[JoeG]

Great photos and documentation.........*** Super Ride ***..

[Charley Lillard]

I think you need to bring that car to Chicago on Nov 21-22. Cool car, congrats. I would collect the old parts but don't put them on.

[bilede]

Wow!

[ORIGLS6]

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[ORIGLS6]

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[Dog427435]

[b] Wow! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif!Wow! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif! Wow!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[iluv69s]

I SECOND THAT!!!! WOOWWWWW!!

I must admit, i was skeptical at first!!
Like maybe it was one of them floating hemi stories..but...

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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A black w/red Phase III 69 RS.....You Win!!!!

[motionwannabe]

This gets better all the time

[Tenney]

Epic score!

[1970Ls6]

I third that, WOW, you really need to bring this car to The Supercar Reunion, Sept. 4th and 5th, Collinsville, IL. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
http://www.yenko.net/reunion/2009reunion.htm

[ORIGLS6]

I'm lovin the orange lift brackets and thermostat housing.

[SUSQ]

Good for you! VERY cool http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif Where are you located in PA?

[x Baldwin Motion]

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[m19gale]

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[DarrenX33]

When you post them select "Image" in the "Instant UBB Code" box. Or, you can also just wrap around your link like so... [Image]link here

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[m19gale]

Thanks! Not enough caffeene this morning. OK, some comments etc on other questions: I actually live in Franklin, PA which is near the I-80 and I-79 interchange. Rural PA to be generic. As for putting the car in the supercar, it would be fun and if my schedule isnt filled i think i will try. However, one of the reasons i posted my car on here is to get the car known out there. I would be pessimistic and leary myself if a rare car showed up, so if there are any questions on this please let me know. Just look at ebay and others for cars passing off as the real thing. Also the last thing i want to do is just try and barge in on a groups agenda. I like cars just like everyone here, so if it just stays here that is great. But I also believe i am too late for 2009, but maybe 2010. I briefly read the requirement for it, so i dont know if it is an invite only, or send the application and see.
Anyway, as always i appreciate all the help and comments. I literally just got this in my garage less than a week ago, so it is going ot take a little to get up to speed for questions i have. But feel free to ask any on my end, i want to make sure that if i do bring this to IL, that everyone is comfortable that this is a real one. That last thing this group would want would be an imposter. Just taking the other sides view!

[m22mike]

Send the Appy in...JMO... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Hope to see you there. Untill that first time you will not understand the fun factor level.
Best part, aside from the car's http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif there are some great new people to meet.

Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[sYc]

Mike, first..looks like a really neat car, with all of the B/M goodies.

I will try an answer your questions, if I miss something, feel free to ask.

The Annual Supercar Reunion has no deadline for entry. As we get closer, we will have a "scheduled to attend" thread, but that is not etched in concrete, just a way to give folks an idea of what is coming. If you do decide to attend SCR12 (this year), we would love to know in advance, but not required. One of the neat things about the reunion is there are always a few surprises show up.

It is an open show. However, as they have done with you, members will extend an invitation to new comers, inviting them to attend the SCR, and other sYc events. Our goal with the SCR is to treat everyone the same, each paying the same entry fee and no judging, with everyone receiving the same participation award. The SCR is about hanging out friends, meeting new ones, and enjoying some of the rarest, and coolest cars in the world.

You speak of imposters, yes, we have fell victim to that. As in life, you live and learn, but in the long one, once is became apparent they were a fraud, they became the big loser. They may get their two minutes of fame, but they then become outcasts in the hobby.

Keep posting pictures, and I hope you can join us Labor Day 2009 in Collinsville.

BTW, your car would sure look neat lined up nest to other B/M cars at the track. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[JoeG]

Thanks for the photos........This is great stuff ... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[ORIGLS6]

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The SCR is about hanging out friends, meeting new ones, and enjoying some of the rarest, and coolest cars in the world.

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The only thing I could add to that would be M22Mike's statement about the "Fun Factor". Guaranteed to have more smiles per hour than anywhere else in the country that weekend.
Plus, there's usually a good contingent from your part of the country heading out this way. Safety in numbers as you travel. Hope you can make it.

[m19gale]

I agree with the fun factor, there is no denying that! I am going to sign up as a member as well as sign up for the SCR. I cant promise anything since around that time we were planning a family vacation. I would like to get my dad and uncle to go as well. Becoming a member is the least i can do with all the help i have received and all the input i will be asking for in the future.

[olredalert]

------Mike,,,What a great piece of history!!! Am wondering if it ever had any wheels other than the Rallys on it. All those modifications and then stock wheels. Dont get me wrong,,, Rallys are fine, just wondering........Bill S

[iluv69s]

just curious...and maybe I missed it already....was this car originally an SS car?? 375 hp car?? X-22 or x-66?? I wonder what they started with...and what happened to the original motors that they pulled out?...

[m19gale]

I will have to check on teh Rallys, can anyone tell if it was on option on the sales sheet? As for the above question, I would be guessing if i answered that. But i thought they were ordered with the 396...but again each one seems different so again i am passing this to someone more informative.

[m22mike]

Mike
Can you post a shot of the trim tag ? Or check to see if there is a X66 or X22 code there. My guess it's X22, assuming the car always had the Z21 brigt trim.

Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[GenOne]

Amazing car Mike - Grats! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Jeff

[m19gale]

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[Nova Jed]

Thanks for the underbody shots! I can see that the S pipe was used to hook up the sidepipes.

[m19gale]

glad it worked out, i was afraid the pic was not close enough for detail.

[Nova Jed]

Don't worry, pictures are worth a thousand words. That helped me out a bunch! I was worried that they went under the subframe. How do those pipes sound and do the covers get really hot after driving?

[iluv69s]

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I will have to check on teh Rallys, can anyone tell if it was on option on the sales sheet?

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I see where it says "inglewood tires and radius wheelwells"..but nothing about rims that I see...anyone know what are Inglewood tires? I assume they were wide if they had to radius the wheelwells

[Born30YrsLate]

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I will have to check on teh Rallys, can anyone tell if it was on option on the sales sheet? As for the above question, I would be guessing if i answered that. But i thought they were ordered with the 396...but again each one seems different so again i am passing this to someone more informative.

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They started out with L78 cars and went on from there...if Baldwin Chev. didn't have the right car at the lot they may trade with other local dealers.

[black69]

This car is my favorite. Just incredible. It will be interesting what inglewood tires tires turn out to be, and getting some period correct tires on it.

[Dog427435]

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This car is my favorite. Just incredible. It will be interesting what inglewood tires tires turn out to be, and getting some period correct tires on it.

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Bill Krech's Inglewood Tire Co. was one of those early California companies that fueled the hot rod movement with specialty tires. They were a charter member helping to found SEMA.
They supplied midget racers with tires in the forties and made those wide whitewall recap slicks you remember from the early sixties. They were M/T's competition on those L 60's and such we all loved back in the late sixties. I don't think they have been in business for quite some time.


This car to me is the ultimate Motion car - it's what I drooled after in Baldwin's showroom weekly! A black with red stripe '69 427 Motion Camaro - it just doesn't get any better!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[m22mike]

Mike
12437... is the body code for Camaro coupe W/ V8
243335... was a internal plant scheduling code
712...Custom Black interior
10 10... is the paint code for "Black" upper and lower, no vinyl top
02D... is the Bdy build date.
X22... SS 396 W/Z21 style trim



CRG has alot of good Camaro stuff.

http://www.camaros.org/index.shtml

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#CowlTag

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes

Mike http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[m19gale]

Thanks for the info M22Mike!
Also for NovaJed, my aunt always said the side pipes get really hot and she always thought she would burn her legs. Luckily so far it has been too cold here so i have alway work jeans when i have driven it.

[Born30YrsLate]

I can only imagine how restrictive that exhaust system is...it kills horsepower, but it looks so nice! I think you would wet yourself with the increase in power if you ran out through open headers... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[sYc]

As you will notice, I have removed several pictures from this thread, mostly of Motion paperwork. This was done per the owner's request, fearing that it might be used to build, and then "document" another Motion car. As much as I hate to see the photos gone, I have to agree.

[ORIGLS6]

Smart move, and I apologize for putting them up. I just thought (at the time) that Mike had posted the link so I might make them easier for others to view.
No harm intended Mike. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[m19gale]

I would never have a problem with the guys here that love the cars with showing or taking pictures of whatever is asked, it is the ones that have alternative motives for deception that myself and everyone has issues with. Since it is a public site you just cant determine what could possibly be done with the information. Sorry i had to do this, but i think it is the safest. Thanks for everyone input! You definatley know your stuff.

[sYc]

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Smart move, and I apologize for putting them up. I just thought (at the time) that Mike had posted the link so I might make them easier for others to view.
No harm intended Mike. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

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Dennis, I think it was good to post the pictures for a short time, as we know what happens when someone says I have docs, etc, but will not let anyone see them.

[m19gale]

I agree as well, if i read that a person had what i was saying i had without paperwork, i wouldnt believe it as well for a second. Things actually worked out for the best all around. Most of you here got to see the paperwork anyway.

[iluv69s]

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Smart move, and I apologize for putting them up. I just thought (at the time) that Mike had posted the link so I might make them easier for others to view.
No harm intended Mike. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

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Dennis, I think it was good to post the pictures for a short time, as we know what happens when someone says I have docs, etc, but will not let anyone see them.

[/ QUOTE ]

What happens ?? haha..God forbid someone not post thier documentation here !! I agree that it was good to allow it atleast for a while to hushh all the...(uh...us) skeptiks !!..

Once again.....I am in Aweeeee!!!! ....other than the wood wheel...I cannot think of a better combo..even love the deluxe interior....

...ok, maybe the exact car in a vert...??

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[x Baldwin Motion]

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yeah, that comment sure wouldn't work well without the photo!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Nova Jed]

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Also for NovaJed, my aunt always said the side pipes get really hot and she always thought she would burn her legs. Luckily so far it has been too cold here so i have alway work jeans when i have driven it.

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Thanks, I guess that kind of ends what I was planning on doing....or maybe still could try it?

[Born30YrsLate]

You throw a set of redline tires on there from diamondback classics and that car will pop even more!...you gotta have the "right shoes for the outfit"!...some 15" Ansen Sprints would be neat to see on the car...those seemed to be popular with Joel back in the day...

[camarojoe]

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I think you need to bring that car to Chicago on Nov 21-22.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why wait til November? Bring it to the SUPERCAR REUNION in September!
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[m19gale]

OK, since it was brought up and a good idea, where would one find a set of Ansen Sprints!
And yes, i am going to try and go to the reunion in september.

[markinnaples]

Honestly, one of the greatest Camaro's I ever seen, and The Holy Grail for many.

I have been in Franklin and Oil City many times for work, actually a beautiful area in the summer and fall.

[Born30YrsLate]

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OK, since it was brought up and a good idea, where would one find a set of Ansen Sprints!
And yes, i am going to try and go to the reunion in september.

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Hey Mike...I know where there's the perfect set...I'll have to get you a pic...

[olredalert]

------My family on my Dads side is from the Oil City area going way back.......Bill S

[Tarrytown SS427s]

WOW Incredible car! Would love to see it with some bias ply redlines! It's cool to see an average guy with one of these cars, hope you can hang onto it forever..Congrats!
Steve

[Steve Shauger]

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------Mike,,,What a great piece of history!!! Am wondering if it ever had any wheels other than the Rallys on it. All those modifications and then stock wheels. Dont get me wrong,,, Rallys are fine, just wondering........Bill S

[/ QUOTE ]

Based on the photo of the orig spare in the trunk, the car was orig delivered with Uniroyal Tiger Paw tires, XT's rims and dog dish caps.

Awesome car since everyone has been inviting you to shows, how about a local one. The GM/Camaro National in Carlisle 6/26-28 We can work on getting you a spot inside a building.

[Salvatore]

Inglewood Tires!!!! Killer tires. Only saw one set in my life at GTO-DONS! Extremely rare. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Born30YrsLate]

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Inglewood Tires!!!! Killer tires. Only saw one set in my life at GTO-DONS! Extremely rare. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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There was a NOS pair of redline Inglewoods on eBay about a year ago...I wanted to scoop them up but the auction was ended early...

[ORIGLS6]

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Inglewood Tires!!!! Killer tires. Only saw one set in my life at GTO-DONS! Extremely rare. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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A friend of mine still has the Inglewood Pos-A-Traction tires on his One-owner '65 Impala. Great tires in the day, and still have that perfect 'Muscle' look today.

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[Born30YrsLate]

Mike...here is a pic of a set of NOS Ansen Sprints...I'll have to try and get a better pic this is one I had on my computer...2 are 15x7 and 2 are 15x8.5, there are also a set of 4 NOS 5-ear caps and nuts...
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[Plowman]

Tow tabs,top left, good. Paul

[Born30YrsLate]

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Tow tabs,top left, good. Paul

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HA - yeah...I was wondering if you'd spot that... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[GTO_DON]

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Inglewood Tires!!!! Killer tires. Only saw one set in my life at GTO-DONS! Extremely rare. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

There was a NOS pair of redline Inglewoods on eBay about a year ago...I wanted to scoop them up but the auction was ended early...

[/ QUOTE ]THats the ones I bought!! Had to give the guy one of my kidneys http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gifBut I love them. They are sitting next to my NOS Goodyear Bluestreaks. I also have 15x8.5 ansen sprints for sale along with some 15x7's if you are interested in them. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Salvatore]

They are killer! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Mr. Chevy]

AWESOME CAMARO!! VERY NICE!!!

Rich

[m19gale]

I have sent in the application for the Carlisle show in June to have this car judged in the "Vintage Legend" class. If any of you are heading there, hope to see you and meet you there. I have alot to learn about these cars, so it will be fun and a good learning experience! I still have some some work to do to get it ready, but if i dont do it now, who knows when it will ever get done. Would love to go to SCR and the others, but that would have to be planned a year in advance but will get there someday! I am cheating since this is the closest event.

[x Baldwin Motion]

What are the dates for the show you are attending Mike?

I need to see something good this year. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Steve Shauger]

[ QUOTE ]
I have sent in the application for the Carlisle show in June to have this car judged in the "Vintage Legend" class. If any of you are heading there, hope to see you and meet you there. I have alot to learn about these cars, so it will be fun and a good learning experience! I still have some some work to do to get it ready, but if i dont do it now, who knows when it will ever get done. Would love to go to SCR and the others, but that would have to be planned a year in advance but will get there someday! I am cheating since this is the closest event.

[/ QUOTE ]

Mike, you will have a blast at Carlisle the dates are 6/26-28. The Vintage team is very excited about you participating in our program. There are typically over 500 camaros that participate each year. The weather has a big effect in the turn out.

Looking forward to meeting you.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Steve

[m19gale]

Just added pictures to the members photo gallery. Better than the dirty ones i had of it in the garage. Got it cleaned up for Carlisle.

[GenOne]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif Looks great! Another car I can't wait to see in person http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/508/IMG_1118.JPG

Oh my God, is the best looking 69 BM Camaro you have ever seen, or what??!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Astock]

It's been a couple years ago that I was talking about your uncles car to friend that knew the car in the seventies.The second owner has a tranny shop in Cleveland. I would like to see the car with different wheels and tires.

[wannarun70]

I like! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[m19gale]

Astock, i was told by my uncle that it originally had Cragar SS wheels on it, so started the process to find a set. By chance, can you see, or can anyone see if they can find pics of this car in the 70's or at least prior to 1983. Also, the person that bought the car last name was Lapp, can you or anyone fill in the owner history after that? I thought there was either two or three owners before my uncle got it. Any help is alwasy appreciated! Actually i head to Cleveland rather often, so if you can make an introduction, it would be great as well.
Thanks Mike

[Tracker1]

Lose the mudflaps. Add Torque-Thrusts. Redlines. Done.

Awesome car. Enjoy it til you're 90.

[ORIGLS6]

Mike,
It's obviously your call on the wheels and Cragars are killer on Black cars, ......... but I second the TTs & redlines. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Whatever you do, the car is http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif!

[al8apex]

[ QUOTE ]
Lose the mudflaps. Add Torque-Thrusts. Redlines. Done.

Awesome car. Enjoy it til you're 90.

[/ QUOTE ]

the mud flaps are as much "day 2" as anything else on the car and keep it tidy too, ever clean those side pipes before? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Lose the mudflaps. Add Torque-Thrusts. Redlines. Done.

Awesome car. Enjoy it til you're 90.

[/ QUOTE ]

the mud flaps are as much "day 2" as anything else on the car and keep it tidy too, ever clean those side pipes before? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gifMy 65 Chevelle had mud flaps on it, for what I guess was over thirty years. Definetly a reason for lack of rust in quarters and fenders. I did take them off because the car no longer sees puddles or rain.

I would second leaving them on this Camaro in the case of the sidepipes.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[m19gale]

Thanks for all the compliments. The Torque-Thrusts are definately a great wheel and may consider it. But cant go wrong with the Cragars as well. Trying to put together a complete set. My uncle mentioned before that that mud flaps really helped with the "road rash" so maybe in hindsight i was lucky he did since the original paint is still in great shape. If any of you are going to carlisle, please stop by and say hello. I believe i will be in building "Y" from Thursday to Sunday. I will be heading to the other building with all the other great cars sometime and will do the same.

[VIPERICH]

MIKE I DONT POST MUCH BUT IVE BEEN AROUND HERE FOR A WHILE.YOUR CAR IS SIMPLY ONE OF THE BEST MOTIONS OUT THERE.MY WIFE AND I ARE HEADING TO CARLISLE FRIDAY MORNING TO GET SOME THINGS FOR MY PROTOURING 68 CAMARO BUILD.COULD I BUY YOU A DRINK OR MABEY LUNCH IF YOU WOULD LET ME HAVE THE HONOR OF SITTING IN THE CAR TO GET A PICTURE OF MYSELF BEHIND THE WHEEL OF ONE OF THE BADDEST STREET CARS EVER MADE.IT WOULD BE A BIG DEAL FOR ME.IF YOU GET THIS MESSAGE TRY TO LET ME KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT ME ASKING.THANK YOU AND GREAT LUCK YO YOU
SINCERLY
ARTHUR RICHARD SWANSON http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[m19gale]

Not a probelm Arthur, would be flattered to get this car known out in the world. I did pm you.

Just a FYI, i have reliable trucking picking up the car and in talking to the driver, he has a new, 2 miles only, new Corvette GS. Not sure if this is the newest and baddest corvette out there, but he should be delivering this around 10 or so on Thursday. If people are around, maybe they can see it get off the truck.

[musclecarjohn]

Beautiful car Mike...almost hard to imagine owning something like that. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Best of luck with it... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[VIPERICH]

WOW what a car i spent some time today looking it over.i would like to thank mike for letting me sit in this awsum time capsule and taking the time to talk to me and my wife.he is a very nice guy that seems to really care for the car.the car is killer,i have a few pics but with the crowd ect it was tough to get good ones.again thank you mike and i hope you have many years of enjoyment out of such a special car!!

[owners2]

Post them . Let's see that bad ass...

[Dog427435]

[b]There was no signage stating what this car was, and I'm sure many people walked by unaware they were in the presence of royalty. The first time I walked by it, there were several judges standing in front of it,
rejudging the ’67 Z-28 next to it and I walked right past.
There was only the Motion emblem on the front to announce what it really was!



http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/Car%20Shows/Carlise09101.jpg


Mike was not around, but Steve (PACEME) seated next to it, was kind enough to tell us what he knew
about the car and show us some of the supporting documents. Thanks Steve!


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/Car%20Shows/Carlise09138.jpg


It was tough to get a shot of the car due to the crowd, and space limitations.


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/Car%20Shows/Carlise09140.jpg
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/Car%20Shows/Carlise09137.jpg
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/Car%20Shows/Carlise09108.jpg


The car still carries many original parts, including the hoses and shocks.
A '69 in black with the red stripe and side pipes - the ultimate Motion car to me!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/Car%20Shows/Carlise09104.jpg
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/dog427435/Car%20Shows/Carlise09110.jpg

[VIPERICH]

here is a pic that i managed to get after i talked to mike for a while.i was in heaven
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/viperich/007-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/viperich/005-1.jpg

[VIPERICH]

yes there was no sign stating what it was and i heard alot of comments from passer bys."ive never seen vette side pipes on a camaro"ect ect.only the people that follow muscle cars intensly ect probobly knew what it was.it should of been in the front building with all the yenkos ect.how many of these cars are actually still around?

[Xplantdad]

we NEED to do a photo feature on this car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

Bruce, you are correct. This is discovered treasure! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif
http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/100_8410.JPG

[x Baldwin Motion]

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/100_8403.JPG

[x Baldwin Motion]

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/100_8402.JPG

[x Baldwin Motion]

I was fortunate to get to meet and speak with Mike and his dad. Two really nice family guys that remind me this hobby is about the PEOPLE that these cars bring together. Thanks and Good Luck !

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/500/100_8405.JPG

[ORIGLS6]

Big Thanks to Glenn & Chris for the shots.

And Mike; What a piece of history! This car is one of the MAJOR discoveries of the decade! Congrats again on being the caretaker and Thanks for bringing it out for the rest of us to see and appreciate. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[ QUOTE ]
A '69 in black with the red stripe and side pipes - the ultimate Motion car to me!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Egzakly!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Charley Lillard]

That is one amazing car....

[Atuckman]

outstanding. cant wait to see it in person one of these days.

[m19gale]

I wanted to thank the Steve Shauger, Brett Marryman, Forrest Merryman, Brett Merryman, and Bob Harris for taking the time and judging my camaro. It was a great learning experience and i appreciate you putting up with all my questions! Just a FYI, the car scored a 2484.44 out of a possible 2820.78
Not too bad for that old of a car. I have to give credit to my uncle for taking such good care of it over the years. I also wanted to say hello to all the great new people i met at the show. I am horrible at names, but everyone i met was great. I apologize to the ones i did not meet, but my family was in Hershy and Gettysburgh that week as well so had to run back and fourth each day. A 3 and 6 year old get roudy very quickly if they are not entertained! Again, it was great to meet a bunch of new friends in the hobby.

[Charley Lillard]

Watch out for the Merriman kids...they are thugs in disguise.....

[Steve Shauger]

Brett and I were talking about the bad influence you had on the boys. They were perfectly normal until they met you Charley.

[Steve Shauger]

[ QUOTE ]
I wanted to thank the Steve Shauger, Brett Marryman, Forrest Merryman, Brett Merryman, and Bob Harris for taking the time and judging my camaro. It was a great learning experience and i appreciate you putting up with all my questions! Just a FYI, the car scored a 2484.44 out of a possible 2820.78
Not too bad for that old of a car. I have to give credit to my uncle for taking such good care of it over the years. I also wanted to say hello to all the great new people i met at the show. I am horrible at names, but everyone i met was great. I apologize to the ones i did not meet, but my family was in Hershy and Gettysburgh that week as well so had to run back and fourth each day. A 3 and 6 year old get roudy very quickly if they are not entertained! Again, it was great to meet a bunch of new friends in the hobby.

[/ QUOTE ]

Mike, your car is a true treasure and our team was honored that you entered it in our program. There certainly is not another one like it thats for sure. It was great to meet you and your dad. Again the pleasure was all ours, and I thank you.

BTW, your car earned Legend status, out top level award....Congratulation http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[JoeG]

Awesome Motion car.......Glad it's back on the road again ..You're the caretaker now............ http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[markjohnson]

I've always thought Motion cars could be a bit "over-the-top" (Example: that famous Mexican Ralley Green '69 Camaro), but this black one trimmed in red is a beautiful example of a bad machine. Driving that car in 1969 had to be the equivalent of driving a Lamborghini or similar exotic today. It would take a VERY serious machine back then, short of an all drag car, to give this thing a run for it's money. I know people like to trash talk street racing, but that was the sole purpose of this car. I bet it was good to be the king with this car!

[m19gale]

Here is the original ad in Hemmings News in 1981. Thomas Comerro of Hemmings was very helpful in tracking this down. I thought everyone would find it a little amusing in how undescriptive this was.

[m19gale]

My uncle ended up buying it for $8500 since that was all he had! Luckily for him and me, it was not listed as a Baldwin Motion camaro.

[Xplantdad]

Neat! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[GenOne]

very cool!

[x77-69z28]

in 1977, i paid 3,000 for my 69 z-28, and that was top dollar at the time. that was quite an investment in 1981!

[markinnaples]

Any updates on the Camaro?

[motionwannabe]

This truly is a very beautiful car

[m19gale]

Traded it in on a Honda Prius, better gas milage haha, just kidding.
Actually nothing happening, sitting in hibernation for the winter. Just waiting for spring to get it out and start taking it to shows. Got approval from the boss (wife as we all know) to take it to MCACN in the fall so I know that she cant say I didnt ask her in the future. Still looking for pics to see if i can verify that it came with cragar SS wheels, my pics go to 1981. Other than that, just trying to stay warm!

[bashton]

[ QUOTE ]
Traded it in on a Honda Prius, better gas milage haha, just kidding.
Actually nothing happening, sitting in hibernation for the winter. Just waiting for spring to get it out and start taking it to shows. Got approval from the boss (wife as we all know) to take it to MCACN in the fall so I know that she cant say I didnt ask her in the future. Still looking for pics to see if i can verify that it came with cragar SS wheels, my pics go to 1981. Other than that, just trying to stay warm!

[/ QUOTE ]

We are really excited and honored that you have agreed to join us for MCACN II.

Our Baldwin-Motion feature is starting to really take shape, and your Phase III will surely be a huge hit. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member
www.mcacn.com (http://www.mcacn.com)

[m19gale]

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww26/m19gale/motion.jpg

A picture with different wheels.

[Xplantdad]

Very cool!!

http://i702.photobucket.com/albums/ww26/m19gale/motion.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Nice <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">L</span></span> <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif<span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">K</span></span><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">!</span></span>

[GTO_DON]

Are those the Cragars that came from me Mike????

[m19gale]

Yes they are! thanks again for the help.

[PxTx]

Car looks great with the Cragars.

Whats the story with them? Date coded 1969 maybe?

[m19gale]

Was trying to get the type of wheels that was supposed to have come with the car. My uncle said that this was the type that was on the car before he got it, but they were too far gone. Would be nice to have a picture to verify, but dont. But i always liked the cragars so at least a change of look. Got close, think the front are '71 and the back are maybe a year or two older. Would have been nice to get '69 dated, but probably a very hard thing to find. Still looking for a set of 8&quot; rear, got 7&quot; now. OK for now, but got to use what i can find! Had to get the car on the road sometime this year!

[MosportGreen66]

Mike... Fantastic! Congrats buddy.

[SuperNovaSS]

Mike,

I think I have the set of 15x8's you are looking for. The guy I got them from bought them for his 68 Camaro when new. I'm not sure how to date them. PM me if interested.

Thanks,

Jason

[SuperNovaSS]

I steel wooled the back of one of the spokes and uncovered a 1964 date. Is that possible or is it just a copyright date?


Jason

[PxTx]

The ones I have are dated on the steel wheel, inside where you can't see with a tire mounted. Let me see if I can post a picture.

[SuperNovaSS]

The wheels still have nice tires on them. I was hoping not to dismount them. I guess I would have to for shipping anyway though. I would guess somewhere in 68 since the original owner told me he bought them new in 68. Its funny, the 15x8s he bought in 68 look great but the 14x6s for the front he bought later and they are peeling and look like crap. Both wheels were exposed to the same conditions.


Jason

[markinnaples]

Any new pics of the Camaro?

[DW31S]

All I can say is WOW!!! and CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

[markinnaples]

Anything new??

[luv2sixty9]

m19gale / Mike,
In one of the pictures of your car it shows the placement of the Baldwin Chevy Dealership Decal. I have a 69 Z28 that came from Baldwin Chevy and my question pertain to the dealership decal. I don't know if you have the answer but you might be able to find out. Is the Baldwin Sticker Original and always located in that location for I have always wondered as to the placement of same from the dealership. Thanxs for posting the picture, which helped me out.

P.S. If you could please provide an overall picture of the rear-end I would appreciate. Because I'm only assuming the deal was placed on the driver side but not 100% sure from the picture.

[DW31S]

What ever became of the 15x8 Cragars?

[markinnaples]

Would love to see some recent pics.

[m19gale]

I have not been the best with keeping up, especially with the cold weather everyone up north had...
I will post some new pics shortly, have to start getting it ready for spring.

But the sticker was on the drive side and will send pics.

[markinnaples]

Any new pics??? Can never get enough of this killer Camaro.

[SS427]

Mike asked me to post these photos as per your request.

[markinnaples]

Thank you for posting those. That is one of the coolest cars of all time, thanks again.

[Tarrytown SS427s]

This car has been so nicely preserved, right down to the original trunk labels! I always thought it was cool how they used half of the 68 Impala trunk emblem for the tail panel and sometimes on the front fenders.

[markinnaples]

That has got to be one of the finest original examples of a Motion Camaro, and being a Phase III is beyond cool. Love that car.

[JRC99]

That is one gorgeous car!

[MosportGreen66]

Beautiful! Congrats

[Woj]

Certainly one of the coolest super cars out there. A personal favorite!

Phil Woj. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif