Suggestions on polish/wax for black paint??

[m19gale]

Got a car to clean up and have not really done much in terms of cleaning/detailing for a while. I got an older black car to clean up with original paint. Minor swirls in paint from age. Any ideas/suggestions for product. Thanks!

[Mr. Chevy]

I like Maguires products, they have a swirl remover. 3M makes good stuff as well.. Always use a microfiber towel when polishing or wiping down the car...

Rich

[x Baldwin Motion]

Leave the car with me for the summer, I'll polish it!! for free!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Salvatore]

Have to try to use some older type products for lacquer paint. Kit, Rally etc. The new Wizard products are good also.

[Jeff H]

I have not tried any of the swirl removers yet, but I used the 3M Imperial Hand Glaze and then Meguire's # 26 Hi-Tech yellow wax on my 70 L78 car and it shows pretty good for a 15+ year old paint job. The hand glaze is a lot of work but definitely worth it.

http://home.comcast.net/~jeffhansbury/1970SS396/L78-1.jpg

[slimsls6]

use a good hand glaze first then wax, will come out nice

[Woj]

3M's (all in one) light oxidation/cleaner/polish works very well. I use it on my 40 year old black laquer and get excellent results.

Phil Woj.

[70-SS/RS-L78]

Farecla, If you get a chance to use it you will never use 3M or Maguire’s again, It is imported from Europe. I believe some NAPA stores
stock it. It is not cheap but well worth the expense.

[MosportGreen66]

Do not waste your time with any of the products found in any of the local auto stores. They do more harm than good. Get yourself a random orbital polisher (cannot burn the paint) and some Menzerna Super Intensive Polish. Talk to my good friend Phil over www.DetailersDomain.com. (http://www.DetailersDomain.com.) Buy automotive clay, microfiber, Lake Country pads and some Menzerna.

Here is a '66 Corvette I detailed for a friend. This car's paint was less than two years old. The pictures speak for themselves. I have been detailing for years now. It was a 2 day job, which consisted of a wash, clay, wash, Menzerna SIP, Menzerna Nano, and Menzerna Final Polish and then Pinnacle XM3 wax as a top coat.

-Dan

Mask your edges!
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Looks fine until you're under the lights
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Hood
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Almost there
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all done
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[CamarosRus]

Dan (aka Mosport), One of your pictures shows a DEWALT regular buffer with foam pad........

Please elaborate more on when, where and how to use regular buffer versus orbital buffer (where is good $ource of orbital buffer and pads)???????

Thanks,

[MosportGreen66]

Hi Chuck,

The pad is a 3M waffle foam pad. I happen not to like them, just personal preference but I needed a very aggressive pad for this car. The Dewalt machine is great, no complaints. The best polisher on the market is a Mikita or a Flex. The Flex is costly, as is the Mikita but both yield great results. More importantly than the machine is a the technique.

The random orbital polisher cannot burn the paint because the machine spins in figure eight pattens. Contrary to this is the polisher/buffer which spins in perfect circles and can burn paint very quickly. For the novice, I suggest using the random orbital because it is error proof. It does take a considerably greater amount of time to correct paint, but for the enthusiast who is just starting with paint correction, its a good machine. Check out the Ultimate Detailing Machine or the Porter Cable. The UDM is a beefed up PC.

Lake Country makes great pads, as does 3M and Megs. It is all in the yarn they use to make the pads, which I'd imagine to be near all the same. The different colors indicate the difference uses. Orange pads are best for cutting swirls and scratches and blue pads are best for final polishes.

In terms of the uses of the different machines, simple waxing and minor cleaning is best for random orbital. Heavy correction, cutting, swirls, compounding, SIP, etc, is best for the buffer! No question.

Check out www.autogeek.net (http://www.autogeek.net) and www.detailersdomain.com (http://www.detailersdomain.com) for all your detailing needs. I have no financial connection to either websites, just a customer.

-Dan

[70-SS/RS-L78]

Great info Dan, I would like to also add that when doing the edge of the panel such as the tops of the Vette fenders always make sure the pad is rotating away from the edge and keep it moving or you will burn it off real fast. I would recommend the novice do this by hand. On these original paint Dispersion Lacquer cars the object is to keep the heat to a minimum, these paints are soluble and are not catalyzed and the heat will soften the paint and cause a lot of problems. Urethanes like the heat, Lacquers do not.

[m19gale]

thanks for all the info, it was a great help, got a stuff to order now and find a weekend to get this done. Again, thanks to everyone for the input

[ORIGLS6]

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I got an older black car to clean up with original paint.

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