Axed Chrysler dealers list

[Chevy454]

Just ran across this...looks like our closest ChryCo dealer survived the cut [for now], but others around here weren't so lucky...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com:8080/2009/05/770dealers.pdf

[budnate]

CRAP!!! my outlet for truck parts is on that list...I called down to see whats up, the word is they can protest about closing, its the mother ship telling who is going not about wether they are able to run there own shop or not, word is they dont want to go..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Chevy454]

I know on the GM side, that some dealers are balking and seeking legal advise concerning state franchise laws...not sure if the same is/isn't applicable in...from what I gather, a lot hinges on whether or not the parent company is in bankruptcy or not.

[ORIGLS6]

That's what I'm hearing too. GM is having to deal with individual State laws/statutes. Unfortunately, 'Size and Strength' will win out. If you're on the list, you're toast ....... eventually.

I have friends at two dealerships. One of them is expected to close. The other MAY be safe for now. It's relatively small, but they're in a good market area with little or no like-brand competition. We'll see. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[njsteve]

Two of our local NJ Chrysler dealers that have been in business over 100 years combined, are on the list. One of them, Belle Meade Garage, is the dealer that I bought my Sun Diagnostic Machine from. Very sad. The list is made up entirely of small family-oriented, community dealerships.

I see that Palmer Dodge in Indianapolis is on the list. That was the dealer that supplied the ill-fated Dodge Challenger pace cars for the 1971 Indy 500. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[JoeG]

It's really a sad day for the auto industry and those who depend on these institutions to support their families.........I hope the negotiations are being fair and above board.to the rules of the existing. bankruptcy laws and not Washington pulling strings with obvious play and pay/back practices......*****This is just my take on what seems to be goin' on just lookin' past the smoke and mirrors****...I'm still having trouble invisioning a 426 Fiat that runs on batteries or soilent green... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Tommy]

Not all of them are small dealers. My largest competitor is on the list. Some small dealers are still huge parts dealers... The jobs lost in all this are very unfortunate.


Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[ORIGLS6]

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......... just lookin' past the smoke and mirrors...

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There's more and more of us everyday Joe.

[JChlupsa]

Theres some dual dealerhips on that list as well, Notice some Chevy/Ford and Buick Dealerships

[beater68427]

From Provo UT (outside Salt Lake) to Las Vegas NV not one Chrysler dealer now, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif that's almost 400 miles on I-15 Not sure on the land mass but it's a whole lot!!

[bashton]

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Two of our local NJ Chrysler dealers that have been in business over 100 years combined, are on the list. One of them, Belle Meade Garage, is the dealer that I bought my Sun Diagnostic Machine from. Very sad. The list is made up entirely of small family-oriented, community dealerships.

I see that Palmer Dodge in Indianapolis is on the list. That was the dealer that supplied the ill-fated Dodge Challenger pace cars for the 1971 Indy 500. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

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There are some pretty decent sized, long term dealers on this list. In my area, (Detroit), Monicatti C-J and Meadowbrook Dodge are pretty decent sized dealerships and both were updated fairly recently. Monicatti is a huge Chrysler Performance Parts dealer and has been in business since the early 60's. I see a whole lot of dealerships onwed by some active Muscle car collectors too.

My Ex has an ownership stake in two dealers, one C-J and one Dodge, and they dodged a bullet. In fact, in their case, the closing of the local Dodge dealer up the street means in essence, a "free" franchise for the C-J dealership.

A sad day indeed...

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[beater68427]

Hinkley Dodge Ogden Utah got the axe, Thats the Nations Oldest Dodge dealer in history been there since 1914 a very sad thing for them to do.

[SUSQ]

I'm not sure I understand the economics or the logic of this program. More specifically:

1. Does it really cost an auto manufacturer a large sum of money to have dealers? I'm under the impression that the dealer network is a conglomeration of independent businesses to whom the manufacturer sells vehicles. There are financially viable dealers and those who are not. Those who are strong will survive, those who are weak will not. Why not let this natural course of selection take place? What does the manufacturer really save in hard dollars by consolidating the dealer network? I realize that many if not most of these vehicles are consigned to the dealers, but with a smaller dealership network it now has a smaller distribution system by which it can move units. Perhaps there is more to the equation that I realize.

2. What is the logic used to determine which dealers stay and those who go? It appears that sales may not be the major factor. Case in point, a local Chrysler dealership that does quite well is losing its franchise. This franchise is then being "transferred" to a Dodge dealer in the next town who is so small that they don't even have an indoor showroom. I don't see many vehicles on the road with their sticker on the back.

3. If downsizing your dealer network is such a good idea, why isn't Ford following suit? They seem to be doing just fine without having to shut down dealer franchises. What is different in the Ford business model compared to that of Chrysler and GM? Ford dealers in this area always seemed to do well but the local Lincoln/Mercury dealer here never really seemed to be knocking the cover off the ball. Perhaps its my personal demographics, but I can't think of anyone I know who owns a Mercury. I do know one person who owns a Lincoln but it's at least ten years old. In this neck of the woods, I see many more Cadillac's on the road than Lincoln's by far. I'm certainly not knocking Mercury or Lincoln, I just don't see many on the road. Perhaps they are better sellers in other geographic areas.

I'm just trying to make sense of all this and I realize that there is often more than meets the eye. Am I oversimplifying the situation? Does this all make good economic sense or is it just Chrysler and GM grandstanding for Congress to give the appearance that they are getting their houses in order?

[SmallHurst]

In the Kansas City area, Ford had already done away with 4 or 5 dealerships a couple of years ago. Some of these did not make sense. But, the herd was thinned and the ones who fronted new money for new dealerships stayed around. Also, the ones that did not have spin offs of foreign (Toyota, Kia, etc) brands also stayed. Again, Ford managed to avoid the big headlines and has been ahead of the curve in some instances.

[six-corners]

No matter how big or small the dealership is....it is still ashame.

There is one on the list...in New Richmond Ohio (east of Cincinnati, right next to the Ohio River)...an extremely small dealership, that I cruised passed about a month back, and mentioned to my dad that it was still cool to see small dealers like this, and how amazing it was that they were still around...now their just one of several casualties.