Papa John's '72 Z28 - $25K reward

[DanCamm]

Has anyone seen this?

http://www.papasroadtrip.com/contest/

[SuperNovaSS]

Wow, that is quite a reward just for finding the car. I wonder if it is stipulated that the "finder" only gets the $25K if the car can be bought. If not, the owner of the car has them by the balls. Here is part of the rules:

4. Prize: The official prize for the Contest is $25,000. In order to obtain the prize claiming you have found Papa’s original Camaro, you must show proof of official vehicle title stating the names of all past owners, including John Schnatter, and a photo of the Camaro outlined in the contest. You must also include your name, address and phone number for prize receipt consideration. Winners are responsible for all fees associated with prize receipt and/or use.

[azcamaros]

Was it even a real Z-28? I question it due to the short spoiler and lack of rear bumper guards.

[PeteLeathersac]

"...you must show proof of official vehicle title stating the names of all past owners, including John Schnatter...

Early clone possibility aside, isn't what they're asking for next to impossible to obtain in most if not all States so the above statment a good way out of paying the prize?.

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~ Pete

[SuperNovaSS]

Pete,

That is what I thought.

Jason

[bigchevydaddy]

Twitter site says "is offering $25K to the owner" as if he'll pay the OWNER the $25K for the sale of the car to PJ; quite a difference from the 'finder's fee' that it sounds like in the rules. Don't know about other states, but in Fla. only the current owner is shown on the title. With the demise of title searches in most states, the providence will be challenging to prove. Would also think that a DMV connection might be able to trace the old tag number and cross it to a VIN.

[al8apex]

"Clue #1 Sunroof"

IF anyone had his car I am sure they "fixed" that by now ...:)

Rules:

1. Eligibility: Papa John’s Search for the Camaro (“Contest”) is open only to legal residents of the United States (including the District of Columbia), excluding Alaska, Hawaii and the state of Washington, who are at least eighteen (18) years old at the time of entry. Employees of Papa John’s International, Inc. and their parent and affiliate companies as well as the immediate family (spouse, parents, siblings and children) and household members of each such employee are not eligible. Subject to all applicable federal, state, and local laws and regulations. Void where prohibited. Participation constitutes entrant’s full and unconditional agreement to these Official Rules and Sponsor decisions, which are final and binding in all matters related to the Contest. Winning a prize is contingent upon fulfilling all requirements set forth herein.
2. Sponsor: Papa John’s International, Inc., 2002 Papa John’s Blvd., Louisville, KY 40299.
3. Timing: The Contest begins on May 27, 2009, at 12:00 a.m. Eastern Time ("ET") and ends on August 31, 2009 at 6:00 p.m. ET (the "Promotion Period"). Administrator’s computer is the official time keeping device for the Sweepstakes.
4. Prize: The official prize for the Contest is $25,000. In order to obtain the prize claiming you have found Papa’s original Camaro, you must show proof of official vehicle title stating the names of all past owners, including John Schnatter, and a photo of the Camaro outlined in the contest. You must also include your name, address and phone number for prize receipt consideration. Winners are responsible for all fees associated with prize receipt and/or use.
5. Release: By receipt of any prize, winner agrees to release and hold harmless Sponsor, Administrator, and their respective subsidiaries, affiliates, suppliers, distributors, and advertising/promotion agencies, and each of their respective parent companies and each such company’s officers, directors, employees and agents (collectively, the “Released Parties”) from and against any claim or cause of action, including, but not limited to, personal injury, death, or damage to or loss of property, arising out of participation in the Contest or receipt or use or misuse of any prize.
6. Publicity: Except where prohibited, participation in the Contest constitutes winner’s consent to Sponsor’s and its agents’ use of winner’s name, likeness, photograph, voice, opinions and/or hometown and state for promotional purposes in any media, worldwide, without further payment or consideration.
7. General Conditions: Sponsor reserve the right to cancel, suspend and/or modify the Contest, or any part of it, if any fraud, technical failures or any other factor beyond Sponsor’s reasonable control impairs the integrity or proper functioning of the Contest, as determined by Sponsor in its sole discretion. Sponsor reserves the right in its sole discretion to disqualify any individual found to be tampering with the entry process or the operation of the Contest or to be acting in violation of these Official Rules or any other Promotion or in an unsportsmanlike or disruptive manner. Any attempt by any person to deliberately undermine the legitimate operation of the Contest may be a violation of criminal and civil law, and, should such an attempt be made, Sponsors reserve the right to seek damages from any such person to the fullest extent permitted by law. Sponsor’s failure to enforce any term of these Official Rules shall not constitute a waiver of that provision.
8. Limitations of Liability: Papa John’s International, Inc., including all of its subsidiaries and their respective shareholders, directors, officers, agents and employees are not responsible for: (1) any incorrect or inaccurate information, whether caused by entrants, printing errors or by any of the equipment or programming associated with or utilized in the Contest; (2) technical failures of any kind, including, but not limited to malfunctions, interruptions, or disconnections in phone lines or network hardware or software; (3) unauthorized human intervention in any part of the entry process or the Contest; (4) technical or human error which may occur in the administration of the Contest or the processing of entries; or (5) any injury or damage to persons or property which may be caused, directly or indirectly, in whole or in part, from entrant’s participation in the Contest or receipt or use or misuse of any prize.
9. Disputes: Except where prohibited, entrant agrees that: (1) any and all disputes, claims and causes of action arising out of or connected with this Contest or any prize awarded shall be resolved individually, without resort to any form of class action, and exclusively by the United States District Court for the Western District of Kentucky (Louisville Division) or the appropriate Kentucky State Court located in Jefferson County, Kentucky; (2) any and all claims, judgments and awards shall be limited to actual out-of-pocket costs incurred, including costs associated with entering this Contest, but in no event attorneys’ fees; and (3) under no circumstances will entrant be permitted to obtain awards for, and entrant hereby waives all rights to claim, indirect, punitive, incidental and consequential damages and any other damages, other than for actual out-of-pocket expenses, and any and all rights to have damages multiplied or otherwise increased. All issues and questions concerning the construction, validity, interpretation and enforceability of these Official Rules, or the rights and obligations of the entrant and Sponsors in connection with the Contest, shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with, the laws of the Commonwealth of Kentucky without giving effect to any choice of law or conflict of law rules (whether of the Commonwealth of Kentucky or any other jurisdiction), which would cause the application of the laws of any jurisdiction other than the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
10. Entrant's Personal Information: Information collected from entrants is subject to Papa John’s Privacy Policy http://www.papajohns.com/policy.shtm.

[njsteve]

[ QUOTE ]
Wow, that is quite a reward just for finding the car. I wonder if it is stipulated that the "finder" only gets the $25K if the car can be bought. If not, the owner of the car has them by the balls. Here is part of the rules:

4. In order to obtain the prize claiming you have found Papa’s original Camaro, you must show proof of official vehicle title stating the names of all past owners, including John Schnatter,

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think they thought this one out too well. They might want to have their lawyers revise this paragraph as you can get into some legal trouble for releasing DMV info to someone who is not a current owner. These laws were the result of that Hollywood starlet that was stalked and murdered a decade or so ago after the friendly local DMV gave the killer all of her address and bio info.

Of course, existing info you already have (old paperwork) is not covered by these laws. It applies only to getting the past owner info from DMVs. They won't release anything with personal info from prior owners without you jumping through all sorts of legal hoops.

Also, I cant think of any state that has all prior owners listed on a title. That would be a restorer's wet dream having all prior owners listed on a single title document.

So yeah, I think they wrote it with an impossible to meet requirement on purpose.

[BARN FIND]

My question is, did John paint the tail pan black or was it that way when he bought it. Only Big Blocks had the tail painted black.

[al8apex]

ummm after examining that picture it LOOKS like his "Z28" was an early clone ...

no rear bumper guards, ALL 72 Z28's had them, same as ALL solid lifter Camaro Z28's ...

[markinnaples]

I know the contest wording is kind of crazy and such, but I gotta appreciate that he's looking for his original car, and that's very cool day-2 old Camaro, clone or not.

[AutoInsane]

So does Papa not have knowledge of the VIN on his old Camaro i am guessing?? Might not be easy to come up with that ownership histroty....