Scott's 1st Project.... 72 Z28

[soonercrew]

I have been lurking around this site for some time now... ive spent alot of time reading everyones posts and figured it was about time for me to start one of my own... im currently working on my 1st project... 72 camaro z28... the car is pewter silver w/stand. black interior, all #'s matching... i guess when i say all #'s matching and date correct i mean most! engine, heads, carb., distributor (yes,dist.,which i found was an extremely rare part?), starter, coil, M-22 tranny, rear-end, intake, manifolds, smog system, wheels, valve covers, wiper motor and more that i probably missed... these are the items ive verified... im halfway into the restoration and am already ready to start another!!! although, a few of my good friends who are members of this site and have lots of experience have urged me to go one at a time... yet, i walk into their storage or garage and there are a handful of them...lol... their advice has been: do as i say, not as i do!!! anyways... i will try to take the time this weekend to post some pics of my progress to this point...

[mockingbird812]

Good stuff Scott!! Bring it!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif


P.S. We are a demanding bunch and on behalf the peanut gallery.....WE WANT LOTS OF PHOTOS!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[soonercrew]

on its way...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/untitled.jpg

[soonercrew]

now what i have to work with... http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/094.jpg
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http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/IMG_409528Small29.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/IMG_413028Small29.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/IMG_405628Small29.jpg

[soonercrew]

some of the #'s... couldnt get pics of them all yet...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/IMG_409228Small29.jpg
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http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/IMG_406728Small29.jpg

[soonercrew]

some more #'s...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/118.jpg
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[soonercrew]

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/091.jpg
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http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/IMG_406928Small29.jpg

[soonercrew]

im open to any comments and even criticism... just be easy! i am a humble guy, but tend to raise my voice when someone gets a little too harsh and out of line... i would love to hear any feedback thru my process! and i do know about the tranny having the 6/9 inverted... i have had a gentleman (long-time member of this site) look at it, along with a post i started here, and seems that 99% majority agree that its a mistake that was probably made on the line... and apparently this is just one of the many times its happened... hope to hear from you guys and make new friends along the way!
thanks,
scott

[njsteve]

Looks like an awesome project. Lots of origional pieces there. Best of luck on the car.

Am I seeing things or is the car VIN 62117 and the block VIN 62117 but the tranny VIN has a flipped 6 and it shows 92117? That's wild.

[x Baldwin Motion]

Real nice, good luck with the project. Like the white headers, haven't seen that in a while.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[TDW]

Nice one to start with. Good color too! I would like to see the "in process" pictures as you go along if possible.

[markjohnson]

I like it. Z-28's are rare cars in 1972 because of the strike. Something like only 2,800 cars, making them the second rarest Z's after '67's. Last of the M-22's, last of the solid lifters and LT-1's.......they are the last of a breed. Hydraulic lifter'ed L-82's followed in '73....just not the same.

[BARN FIND]

How are you sure it has a M22 in it?

[soonercrew]

the casting #'s on the maincase, extension housing & sidecover casting... and the C represents m-22... and also the plug bolt on the side i believe...

[DarrenX33]

Looking at the underside I knew it was an LA car judging by the amount of undercoating. Nice car. About time you posted pics.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[jeff-san]

Scott,

thanks for posting pix of your project. cant wait to see the final outcome. I'm glad you have the original dist, I was offered one awhile back and couldnt believe what they're worth. please keep us posted on your progress.

[soonercrew]

jeff...
no joke! i had a friend looking for a 72z distributor and all he could find (and not even restored!) were 1600-2000!

[al8apex]

[ QUOTE ]
the casting #'s on the maincase, extension housing & sidecover casting... and the C represents m-22... and also the plug bolt on the side i believe...

[/ QUOTE ]

FYI all 71 and later Muncies had the drain plug ... they were all fine splined input shafts too

do not rely ONLY on the fact that it has a drain to determine what the trans is

[soonercrew]

thanks... wasnt aware on the d.plug... but all the casting #'s and C-code match... have yet to dig as far as opening her up though...

[hubleyman]

Excellent car to play with!! I tend to be a little partial to that color combo on 2nd Gen Camaros myself (currently halfway plus through my silver 73 Z resto)....

Quick question for you guys:

In one of the pictures I believe I'm seeing what appears to be a GM parts tag (perhaps on a fenderwell?) with a little undercoating on it. Does that mean that whatever part this tag is on has been replaced at some point in it's life? Or has anyone ever seen a GM parts tag installed on an original unmolested car? Just curious...... Charlie

[soonercrew]

a few parts have gotten back from being re-skinned... let me know what ya think... original valve covers, original manifold and original alternator... the original dist. is having the advance adjusted, but i will post it in a few days
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z001.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z007.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z003.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z009.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z002.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z006.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z008.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z004.jpg

[JJEH]

Nice car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Good luck with the Project!

[soonercrew]

undercarriage and firewall are almost complete...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z015.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z014.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z012.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z013.jpg

[BARN FIND]

Undercarriage looks good, what color and type paint did you use?

[soonercrew]

its actually a tad darker than it appears in the pics, and looks right on... used: PPG DP74

[Jonesy]

Those would not be the original valve covers with those part numbers. Those are later replacements.

Wont be able to tell once they are on the car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[soonercrew]

a few more parts after restoration...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/IMG_0109.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z017.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72z016.jpg

[soonercrew]

cluster is now restored!
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/DSC02008.jpg
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http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/DSC02011.jpg

[jeff-san]

I dig the distrib...tough to find.

[firstgenaddict]

Nice that brings back find memories... we raced, restored, and generally thrashed early second gen's in high school...

[soonercrew]

a few more pics of progress... and, does my firewall to undercarriage overspray look correct???
all picture link: http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/
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[Gregs396]

[ QUOTE ]
Looking at the underside I knew it was an LA car judging by the amount of undercoating. Nice car. About time you posted pics.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
No LA cars in 72, all were built in Norwood with the red-oxcide.

[soonercrew]

im pretty sure my firewall to undercarriage overspray looks close... any opinions???

[BARN FIND]

The floor plugs look different, did you reattach them from the underside?

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm68/BARNFOUND/72Z28Floor.jpg

[soonercrew]

more prep work being done...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/scott001.jpg
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[soonercrew]

currently mounting up the subframe and rear end so that we can align all the sheet metal before paint!!!
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72Z7.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/72Z3.jpg
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[Kim_Howie]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif

[soonercrew]

engine coming together... wheels are done!!! dang, the factory correct paint w/ suede additive was high $$$!!!
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/wheels005.jpg
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[SuperNovaSS]

Why different polylocks on the intake and exhaust?
Its looking great!


Jason

[mockingbird812]

Scott - lookin' real nice. Keep those pix a comin'! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[soonercrew]

just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the positive comments and the critiques! i can't honestly answer on the polylocks, to be completely honest, i had to google it to even see what they were! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif sorry, not a mechanically enclined type, but im learning!

[BARN FIND]

[ QUOTE ]
Why different polylocks on the intake and exhaust?
Its looking great!


Jason

[/ QUOTE ]


Will the stock finned valve covers fit with the poly locks on?

[soonercrew]

i assume. they fit fine before...

[TimG]

Scott, what did you paint the sub frame with? I'll be geting a new sub frame for my Z and I may have it powder coated.

[soonercrew]

the subframe and rear were painted with 2k ceramic from eastwoods. we did them in the gloss and toned it down a bit.

[RichSchmidt]

On my 73 firebird which still has mint undercarrage paint and overspray,the overspray coming from the sides under the rockers was limited in how far the heavy spray went,but under the rear of the car there was much more overspray.It started about 1 foot in from the tail panel under the gas tank and extended well into the area that turns down under the back seat.Your firewall overspray into the trans tunnel looks spot on,it pretty miuch fades in around the seam for the main floorpan.If the red oxide is a litte darker then in the pics,then it should be just right.

My car has been a street race type hot rod all it's life and both me and a lot of past owners spray bombed the undercarrage over the years to clean it up.One day while plotting out a new exhaust system I took a rag with some solvent to the crud and it went right down to the original sealer,overspray pattern and all.Most of the paint was "over sludge" since as far back as the late 70's,so it kind of preserved it well.The paint under the gas tank area peels off in sheets once I get a good edge to dig under.Maybe someday I can post pics of it.I recently went under there with some home mixed rustoleum and redid the areas where the original paint was too crusty.I wiped it down and smoothed it out and mixed red oxide metal primer and gloss black until it made a very close color that I applied with a brush.The car isnt a resto job by a long shot but it is neater then most of these beaten old mules.

[soonercrew]

few pics of it getting into paint...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/camaropaint.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii32/soonercrew/1972%20z28/camaropaint1.jpg
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[70 Forest Green Zee]

You're doing a great job Scott....can't wait to see her finished! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Xplantdad]

I love the pweter silver color...my Nova was the same color. When we were mixing the painy...I couldn't believe how much brown and green were in the mix!

It's looking great! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[olredalert]

-----I love the pewter as well. Looks great on your Camaro. Ordered my 72 Grand Prix SJ that color new and liked it so much I painted my 70 SS454 Chevelle convert the same. For some reason I love it in conjunction with white.......Bill S