View Full Version : Removing A.I.R. tube fittings from manifolds?
scuncio
07-02-2009, 04:05 AM
Can anyone share a good trick for removing these tube nuts from the exhaust manifolds? A few of the nuts already have the hex head snapped off - on these, should I drill out the ID before using an EZ-out?
Thanks,
Tony
CamarosRus
07-02-2009, 05:40 AM
FYI, KROIL is a very good penetrating fluid.......
May we assume you've heated the area with a oxy/acet torch ???
scuncio
07-02-2009, 06:44 AM
Yes, I did heat the area with a torch but two of the fittings will not budge. Unfortunately these are the fittings that have been sheared off so they are even tougher to access. I have been using PB Blaster.
I had that happen to me,and I was able to heat them and grab what was left of the sheared nut with a needle nose....AAAARRRGH!
70 Forest Green Zee
07-02-2009, 07:01 AM
I know the feeling...I had to have 2 of mine drilled out. Fortunately I have a friend that owns a machine shop and he drilled them out for me...I didn't even need to re tap the holes, he did a good job.
DarrenX33
07-02-2009, 07:02 AM
MAP gas and an easy out. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
jasonL78
07-02-2009, 06:17 PM
I was told by an old timer who was a tool and die maker. You can heat up a rusted part and then cool it very quickly with water? I did it with an exhaust pipe and I was able to twist the 2 pipes apart with my hands. So I would think it would work for your manifold also. I guess the theory is when you put the cold water to the hot surface it loosens up the rust? Not sure if you want to give it a try?
Jason
ORIGLS6
07-02-2009, 06:41 PM
You might get by with that on steel pipe but I wouldn't try it with cast iron manifolds.
Keith Tedford
07-02-2009, 07:03 PM
I've had good luck heating manifolds red hot to get the three exhaust studs out. Of course, these weren't valuable. It's the valuable stuff that cracks. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Just don't quench the hot part when finished. We used to bury parts in lime to slow the cooling process. With bolts etc, that are rusted, bottomed out or seized, EZ outs usually aren't of much help and as often as not you see them broken off in the hole. Then you have a real mess on your hands. With patience, you can drill the nut out to tap drill size then fish the remaining thread from the nut out with a scriber or small pointed punch. In most cases, it is better to take the part to someone with the equipment and experience. In a desperate case and a valuable part, you can have the piece EDM'd out.
John Brown
07-02-2009, 07:14 PM
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I was told by an old timer who was a tool and die maker. You can heat up a rusted part and then cool it very quickly with water? I did it with an exhaust pipe and I was able to twist the 2 pipes apart with my hands. So I would think it would work for your manifold also. I guess the theory is when you put the cold water to the hot surface it loosens up the rust? Not sure if you want to give it a try?
Jason
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I've done that many times, and with some pretty valuable manifolds too. Learned the same trick from an old blacksmith. First time I saw him do it I thought the manifold was gonna be toast, but it has worked fine every time I've done it too.
elonblock
07-03-2009, 02:33 AM
One of the keys is to heat the manifold evenly until it is red hot. Two people makes the job easier. And then see if you are able to get a bite on any remaining piece of the fitting.
Otherwise as Keith mentioned an EDM machine in the right hands will make short work of removing the fittings and leaving the threads intact.
Elon
scuncio
07-12-2009, 02:54 AM
Looks like a couple of these are going to have to be drilled out and retapped. Can anyone provide the correct AIR fitting thread size for a 1968 350 smog manifold?
acelr8
07-12-2009, 05:53 AM
1/4 straight pipe thread.Not taper pipe.Jeff
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