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Tommy
08-09-2009, 12:02 AM
I found this in the garage today and I think it is a 67 model M21. here are some pictures. Thanks in advance for a positive ID.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/parts/080809142912.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/parts/080809143112.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/parts/0808091431c12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/parts/0808091431a12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/parts/0808091431b12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/68sschevyII/parts/080809143212.jpg
Those aren't bad photos for a cell phone http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif...
Tommy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
al8apex
08-09-2009, 12:20 AM
from http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#TransmissionNumbers
tymdds
where:
t = transmission type
MANUAL AUTOMATIC
S = Saginaw 3-speed A = 68/69 L6 Torque-Drive
K = McKinnon 3-speed C = Cleveland Powerglide
H = 69 Muncie HD 3-speed T = Toledo Powerglide
R = 4-speed Saginaw B = Cleveland TH350
P = 4-speed Muncie X = Cleveland TH350
Y = Toledo TH350
y = model year (not calendar year)
m = month
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
A B C D E H K M P R S T
dd = day of month
s = suffix
PowerGlide and TH350 (not used on all):
D = day shift
N = night shift
1969 Muncie 3-speed
B = 2.42 first gear ratio
1969 Muncie 4 speed only:
A = M20
B = M21 Use of the Muncie type suffix
C = M22 began with 21 Oct 68 production.
Examples:
R7S21 Saginaw 4-speed, Nov 21, 1966
P8R01 Muncie M2x 4-speed, Oct 01, 1967
P9T11B Muncie M21 4-speed, Dec 11, 1968
C9D14N PowerGlide M35 2-speed auto,
Apr 14, 1969, night shift
yours is P7H14
P = 4-speed Muncie
7 = 1967 MODEL year vehicle
H = June
14 = day, June 14
the 7A vin = 1967 Atlanta, Georgia built vehicle
Tommy
08-09-2009, 12:27 AM
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yours is P7H14
P = 4-speed Muncie
7 = 1967 MODEL year vehicle
H = May
14 = day, May 14
the 7A vin = 1967 Atlanta, Georgia built vehicle
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Thanks a bunch http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif.It should work nicely in the 67 Camaro project.
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Musclecarkid
08-09-2009, 08:49 PM
Tommy, Those 2 rings on the imput shaft make your Muncie a M20 wide ratio trans. M21 would have only one ring. I believe early 60's Muncies didn't have these ID rings. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
L72Chevelle
08-09-2009, 08:50 PM
Two grooves on input is M20 gearbox, M21 would have one groove.
Tommy
08-09-2009, 11:48 PM
Thats good, thanks for clearing that up for me. I plan on running a 3:55 in the camaro so the M20 will be a good trans for that ratio.
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