Dave's New COPO [Archive] - The Supercar Registry

GrumpysToy

09-13-2009, 01:27 AM

Hello everyone,
Thanks for checking out my NEW "old race car". I would like to thank Doug Perry for hooking me up with this one, he is the go to guy if your looking for these rare cars, especially the history on them. With Doug's "CSI" tactics we virtually knew all the history on this car before we got to the auction , and that was in a matter of days. Thanks again Doug. I would also like to thank the original owner whom we met at the estate auction (2nd owner died), His name is Doug E. ,a great guy and he will obviously be a wealth of knowlege on the car since it remains almost 100% as he built it back in 1970. I will have the car "RACE READY" at next years SCR and hope to have him there to meet everyone and let him take it down the track. He also has video of the car back in the day that I would love to share with all of you , I will see what I can do on that.
Dave

Lemans69

09-13-2009, 01:39 AM

I'm with Darren. I would clean and detail the car, make it run and drive, and leave it as is. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif This is an unbelievable find!

lineman

09-13-2009, 01:45 AM

What a find......congrats

camarojoe

09-13-2009, 01:48 AM

Awesome! I love that 60's "mod" graphics/lettering style. Totally cool paint scheme on a totally cool car. Can't wait to see this one in the flesh. Congrats!

1969l78

09-13-2009, 01:49 AM

That would be a shame to restore that car. Nice find

Lemans69

09-13-2009, 02:02 AM

Are there any pictures in as found condition?

Astock

09-13-2009, 02:18 AM

I'm sure the locals thought you guys were crazy for bidding what you did on that car. I know the conservative mentality of that area all too well... the smile on Dave standing next to the original owner tells the story.

Schonyenko2

09-13-2009, 02:25 AM

That's one of the coolest finds I've seen in a long time. It doesn't get much better than that. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Just be careful if you decide to buff it. Nothing abrasive or all that 60's 70's clear laquer will be on the pad.

GrumpysToy

09-13-2009, 02:27 AM

I do restoration work on the side on these cars for a few select friends of mine , but no one needs to worry about me making this one all "original" again. I can appreciate a restored nut and bolt car like everyone else , but my first love is a day 2 car ,this one will get cleaned up , go thru the drivetrain,brakes ,etc., and be making pass's with the wheels up and very DEEP into the 10's next year! I can't wait to "row" thru the gears on this one.....

DarrenX33

09-13-2009, 02:47 AM

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I do restoration work on the side on these cars for a few select friends of mine , but no one needs to worry about me making this one all "original" again. I can appreciate a restored nut and bolt car like everyone else , but my first love is a day 2 car ,this one will get cleaned up , go thru the drivetrain,brakes ,etc., and be making pass's with the wheels up and very DEEP into the 10's next year! I can't wait to "row" thru the gears on this one.....

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AWESOME! How many miles do I have to drive to see it? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

1969grb

09-13-2009, 03:30 AM

Dave, Congrats again. I will be in Columbus very soon to see this amazing find! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

Grady http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

396L35

09-13-2009, 04:04 AM

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Are there any pictures in as found condition?

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Your looking at them....

COPO CARTEL

09-13-2009, 04:57 AM

At the auction we had the pleasure of meeting and speaking with the original owner Doug E. he is from the Cleveland area of Parma Heights. As you see the photos we did ABSOLUTELY nothing to the car except load it up and head back to Columbus. Doug E. worked at Myles Engineering back in the day his best ET. was an 10.66 @ 133. He left the original motor @ Thompson Speedway in pieces. The original selling dealer was Rodenfels Chevy on Pearl Rd. The rear 1/4 panel if you look very closely still has his name. Talking to the nephew and brother of the second owner, Joe only took the car out 2-3 times when he owned it and parked it in 1974. The car did track time @ PID, Norwalk, Bristol,Rockingham,Lakeland Florida, Beckley WV. Dragway 42. Doug E. recalls racing against Larry Morgan back when he ran Fords. The car became a racecar the day it came home to Pleasant Valley Rd. in Parma Heights. The mileage is 100% correct...just look at the pebblegrain in the steering wheel. It WILL NOT get restored....only freshened up and doing track time at National Trails....Dave's shifting and tuning ability is pretty damn good. He told me he always wanted a 69 Camaro Racecar...well here it is. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

al8apex

09-13-2009, 05:05 AM

lots of other "interesting" items at that sale:

VEHICLES – 1955 Greyhound Scenic Cruiser, 40 ft. customized private coach, new engine & transmission; 1965 Greyhound Eagle bus, completely customized private coach, new engine; 1974 Motor Home, rear Chrysler 440 engine; 1963 Corvette, split window coupe, 327 fuel injection, 4-speed; 1969 Camaro “The Radical One” set up for drag racing; 1981 Honda Civic, 4 cyl, 5 speed; 1987 Oldsmobile Cutless Supreme, 307 engine; 1979 Cadillac Seville, fuel injection, 80 orig. miles; 1978 Chevy Caprice Classic 66,00 miles; 1957 Chevy Bel-Air (no engine);

PLUS:

NEW AUTO BODY PARTS – new left & right side quarter panels for a 1967 Shelby in original crate; new bumper & side panels and assort of parts for a 1963 Corvette; 200+ new mufflers in boxes; large assort. of new parts in original boxes; large assort. of auto glass; air filters; and miscellaneous.

Salvatore

09-13-2009, 05:30 AM

"It will NOT get restored". Doug, you guys just became my new bunch of heros, replacing BBBenny! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

COPO CARTEL

09-13-2009, 06:00 AM

Now let's talk Dave into getting this car to Chicago in November and Carlisle next June, BUT only after he takes care of a few other projects. Right Frank and Caleb http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

copo69

09-13-2009, 06:00 AM

Congratulations.. that car is really neat. What class did the car run? It looks like it just stepped out of the early 70's with all the period stuff. Talk about time machine!!

budnate

09-13-2009, 06:01 AM

Wow, man what a nice car you guys found, I think its safe to say its the find of the year.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

GenOne

09-13-2009, 06:10 AM

Just amazing ..... Grats!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Mr. Chevy

09-13-2009, 06:15 AM

Awesome ride Dave!! Very Cool Time Capsule!!! Can't wait to see it live....

Rodenfels was originally located at 6376 Pearl Rd. in Parma Hts., Ohio and sold several COPOS.. The dealership became Bill Doraty Chevrolet and then sometime in the late 80s or early 90s Integrity Chevrolet took over and moved into the building.. The dealership is now defunct.. I don't know what will become of the building.. Probably be knocked down... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Doug asked me if I would slide over to the old dealership location and take some pictures of same.. I did this last night.. It's funny, I talked to the original owner of this car on the telephone and he stated that he remembered the dealership was next to a little greasy spoon restaurant called the Whip which is still there and in business... He stated his wife had worked there during the time he bought the COPO.

Sorry to HI JACK the thread Andy.........

Enjoy..... Rich http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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GrumpysToy

09-13-2009, 06:22 AM

Here are a few more details on the car.
06A X44 57 fathom green 712 deluxe black int
427 copo , m22 trans(when new)
4,104 original miles on the body
all original sheet metal except hood
427 , aluminum heads , dominator intake and carb, chevy cable drive dist. , curved neck radiator,chrysler "HEMI 4 speed crash box" (the tranny of choice back in the day), original BB cross member, dual lakewood drive shaft loops, BE 12 bolt with summers bros axles,lakewood traction bars, front disc brakes were replaced with drum (for less drag Back in the day), dual SW fuel pumps,the sub frame and bumper brackets have been drilled with holes to reduce weight,no spoilers , still has all the original carpet and a lakewood bolt in roll bar.The original owner had the car painted as you see it when it was one year old, and for an old laquer paint job there is no checking at all from not seeing the light of day for almost 35 years.
As far as the class it ran in , he raced at AHRA and IHRA tracks and I don't remember the what class he said but from the way the car is set up it looks like an NHRA A/modified production car. But I will find out from the owner.

Salvatore

09-13-2009, 06:39 AM

Probably A/MP in NHRA trim would be a tunnel ram set-up. Caleb's car is a perfect example of an A-B/MP car of the early 70's. Those cars ventured into Pro Stock on some weekend invitational meets at the local dragstrips. Looks like an NHRA SS/D car without the aluminum heads. Can't remember if you could run aluminum heads on a 427 in NHRA SS back then on a camaro. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

owners2

09-13-2009, 06:55 AM

I'm so jealous. I hope some day i can find an Awesome barn Find!!!!

stingray66

09-13-2009, 07:45 AM

Absolutely awesome awesome COPO find !!! Very very COOL !!! Super happy to hear you are going to leave it in its original state !!! Congratulations !!!

Charley Lillard

09-13-2009, 08:27 AM

Wow...congrats and thanks for keeping it the way it is..

farone

09-13-2009, 08:43 AM

WOW !!!!!!!!!!! Congrats Dave... Cool car, I can't wait to see it in person... You and Doug are some real COPO hounds !!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

COPO_Anders

09-13-2009, 11:40 AM

WOW !! That is really the coolest car I have seen in a long time ! Great find !

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John

09-13-2009, 02:40 PM

...so where was this auction? Where there any other cars there? Nice find http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Dog427435

09-13-2009, 03:21 PM

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bergy

09-13-2009, 03:22 PM

Truely the find of the year - there still out there! Congrats!

Xplantdad

09-13-2009, 05:34 PM

Very, very cool! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

bkhpah

09-13-2009, 05:35 PM

Cool story...congrats..BKH http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

firez

09-13-2009, 06:07 PM

What a great find Congrats

ANDY M

09-13-2009, 06:36 PM

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...so where was this auction? Where there any other cars there? Nice find http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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John, please re-read the first post.

L72COPO

09-13-2009, 07:03 PM

Dave, great story and congratulations on the find. Perry needs a new name, how about Sherlock?

COPO PETE

09-13-2009, 07:23 PM

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SEXY
Peter

al8apex

09-13-2009, 07:32 PM

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...so where was this auction?

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posted on the 1st post, Steubenville, OH

Here is the auction link:

http://www.garycain.com/auctions2.asp

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Where there any other cars there? Nice find http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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this was posted on page 3:

"lots of other "interesting" items at that sale:

VEHICLES – 1955 Greyhound Scenic Cruiser, 40 ft. customized private coach, new engine & transmission; 1965 Greyhound Eagle bus, completely customized private coach, new engine; 1974 Motor Home, rear Chrysler 440 engine; 1963 Corvette, split window coupe, 327 fuel injection, 4-speed; 1969 Camaro “The Radical One” set up for drag racing; 1981 Honda Civic, 4 cyl, 5 speed; 1987 Oldsmobile Cutless Supreme, 307 engine; 1979 Cadillac Seville, fuel injection, 80 orig. miles; 1978 Chevy Caprice Classic 66,00 miles; 1957 Chevy Bel-Air (no engine);

Here is their link to the photos:

http://www.garycain.com/auctions/Marcino/

vehicles of interest (to me anyway):
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http://www.garycain.com/auctions/Marcino/CAMERO%20FRT.jpg
http://www.garycain.com/auctions/Marcino/CAMERO%20LEFT%20SIDE.jpg

PLUS:

NEW AUTO BODY PARTS – new left & right side quarter panels for a 1967 Shelby in original crate; new bumper & side panels and assort of parts for a 1963 Corvette; 200+ new mufflers in boxes; large assort. of new parts in original boxes; large assort. of auto glass; air filters; and miscellaneous. "

John

09-13-2009, 08:05 PM

That must have been one neat auction http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

69 Post Sedan

09-13-2009, 09:35 PM

Great story. I can't wait to see it after a light fluff and buff. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

On another note, the a build date of 06A, the VIN to this car would have to be close to the COPO motor I sold recently. The VIN on that block was 650498.

SuperNovaSS

09-13-2009, 09:42 PM

AWESOME! Great find!

Jason

markjohnson

09-13-2009, 09:54 PM

The pictures really are amazing! I get home from the White Hall Drag Strip Reunion yesterday to discover the biggest 'find' of the yearhere on my computer! Wow! I can't believe the equipment that was still in place on that car: the BE rear 12 bolt, the curved-neck radiator, and to think.........it was just advertised as a '69 Drag Car Camaro! The biggest shocker to me is that the leaf springs are still in their stock location with only slapper bars bolted to them! These cars started getting big rear tires and ladder bar rear suspensions in them in the very-early Seventies and this car somehow avoided the gas axe. I'd venture to say that there's no way this car was raced past 1972-3 because it just wouldn't have been competitive against the big-tire competition. That puts this car as possibly sitting for 36-37 years! I personally recognize that damage on the hood from the alternator belt flying off and striking the underneath of the hood. It's happened to me! Anyway, congrats on the find. When you think all of these cars have been grabbed up and discovered....something like this pops up. They are still out there if you look hard enough!

mockingbird812

09-13-2009, 10:37 PM

Big congrats Dave. A real gem!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Pls keep us posted on her progress with whatever you have planned! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

scuncio

09-13-2009, 11:01 PM

Awesome! Way better shape than any barn find I have ever come across!

brent396

09-14-2009, 01:13 AM

Congrats dave very old school look keep pics coming http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

396/425blr

09-14-2009, 01:23 AM

Nice find Dave. With that green paint it looks a lot like "The Watermelon" Jim and Perry raced from years ago while at Ricart Ford. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif Denny

bashton

09-14-2009, 03:16 AM

Congrats Dave...what an amazing find!

Please consider joining us November 21-22 for the MCACN show. www.mcacn.com (http://www.mcacn.com) I am sure Mr Perry can fill you in on the details and I am absolutely sure that seeing this car in person would make lots of us verrry happy!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

CC Rider

09-14-2009, 04:56 AM

Wow, very cool find! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

GrumpysToy

09-14-2009, 06:43 AM

Thanks guys for all the great comments http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif , I am going to see if I can get it to the Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals in Chicago in November . I will keep you posted http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
Dave

Woj

09-14-2009, 06:59 AM

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Awesome ride Dave!! Very Cool Time Capsule!!! Can't wait to see it live....

Rodenfels was originally located at 6376 Pearl Rd. in Parma Hts., Ohio and sold several COPOS.. The dealership became Bill Doraty Chevrolet and then sometime in the late 80s or early 90s Integrity Chevrolet took over and moved into the building.. The dealership is now defunct.. I don't know what will become of the building.. Probably be knocked down... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Doug asked me if I would slide over to the old dealership location and take some pictures of same.. I did this last night.. It's funny, I talked to the original owner of this car on the telephone and he stated that he remembered the dealership was next to a little greasy spoon restaurant called the Whip which is still there and in business... He stated his wife had worked there during the time he bought the COPO.

Sorry to HI JACK the thread Andy.........

Enjoy..... Rich http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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My Grandparents and Uncles lived only a few blocks from the dealership, I remember as a kid in the late 60's and early 70's driving by the dealership and looking at all the beautiful Corvettes behind the glass in the show room. It was a fantasy for me as a kid.

Glad to see such a time-capsule that originated there. Congrats Dave. Hope to see the car soon.

Phil Woj.
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DarrenX33

09-14-2009, 07:00 AM

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Thanks guys for all the great comments http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif , I am going to see if I can get it to the Muscle Car and Corvette Nationals in Chicago in November . I will keep you posted http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
Dave

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Whoooooooo!! Cool Dave!

musclecarjohn

09-14-2009, 10:30 PM

...cleanest barn find I've ever seen...double WOW! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

PxTx

09-14-2009, 11:52 PM

Very cool little story you've got going with that car. It sounds like the car and its new owner Dave are a perfect compliment to each other. Congratualtions!

blown-v8

09-15-2009, 07:07 PM

Had the pleasure of being there when everything was sold. A truly remarkable sale. I learned of everything over a year ago and my friend and I had several conversations with a family member prior to everything being sold. Unfortunately, my buddy and I took the story given to us by the family about the Camaro that it was born a six cylinder and we pretty much discounted the car, other than the fact that it was a super cool period drag car. My buddy and I had even joked about the possibilty that it could have been a COPO car months in advance. Due to the fact that there wasn't any documentation, and the (I guess now, incorrect) story we were told, we all but ignored it. Being mostly a Ford guy, and knowing Vettes, Camaros, Chevelles, etc fairly well, the first thing I went to on this car was the speedo, which to me was incorrect. 120 vs 140MPH. Spoke to Doug after the auction and learned this is accurate for a single-COPO, and only a double would have the 140 speedo. We had a couple people interested in the car, but of course, it passed the number we were thinking of fairly quickly. Everyone stood around in amazment quickly realizing that the car HAD to be something other than just a period drag car. The original owner stepping out of the crowd floored everyone once he told the whole story too.

While all the GM boys stood around enamored by the dollars that the Camaro, and 63 Fuelie Vette sold for, us Ford guys moved on to argueably the tie for the rarest other item sold at this auction. We had come for main one reason, the NOS crated Shelby parts (slightly incorrectly) advertised as "new left & right side quarter panels for a 1967 Shelby in original crate." There was probably more of a buzz about these parts around the auction than the cars, truthfully. I heard comments ranging from what people thought they would sell for, to people walking by saying "Shelby never made an aluminum Mustang!!" There in lies the story. The parts were not advertised as what they were. Most people were thinking "Shelby MUSTANG parts" in a crate. Guess what, they are not Shelby Mustang parts. They are ORIGINAL AC COBRA parts. The story we were given was that it was two rear quarters. Once we got to the auction, we ended up verifying that it was NOT two rear quarters, instead, it was the ENTIRE left side of an original AC Cobra. A NOS complete rear quarter, a NOS door shell, a NOS door skin, and a NOS front fender assy, and a NOS frt fender louver. They said they had interest and inquires from around the country, and opend the auction at $50K for these parts. We did not pay that, I will say that.

Folks, this stuff simply does not exist. This is one of the single rarest find of collector-car parts EVER, and for one of the most valuable collector cars out there in the market today. In most folks minds, these parts DO NOT EXIST. We already have some pretty remarkable interest and offers.

These parts were purchased for a wrecked (side swiped) AC cobra around 1970. The owner of the Cobra ended up getting impatient about waiting to get fixed, and he had the body shop just fix the damage, because it took too long for these parts to come in from England (many months we were told). Parts showed up in late 1970, the car was already fixed, and there was no use for the parts any longer. They have set in their original wooden shipping crate since 1970. A couple magazines have expressed interest in the find, and I am not posting all of the pics we have at this time with them out of the crate and all until this happens. Here's a shot of them in their crate of nearly 40 years from right after the auction ended. Thought you guys would appreciate the other remarkable find at this auction. Just goes to show that there are still some amazing things still out there in garages around the country. About the time everyone starts to think it's all dried up, stuff like this and the COPO surfaces. A fantastic day and super cool auction!

Mr70

09-15-2009, 07:19 PM

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John D Smith

09-16-2009, 12:10 AM

OK, so this was an auction, so the selling price obviously wasn't a secret, what did it go for? Inquiring minds want to know! Unbelievable find, good job Grumpy!!!!!!!

1969l78

09-16-2009, 12:40 AM

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OK, so this was an auction, so the selling price obviously wasn't a secret, what did it go for? Inquiring minds want to know! Unbelievable find, good job Grumpy!!!!!!!

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Your not the only one wondering http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

blown-v8

09-16-2009, 12:59 AM

I know what each and every item sold for but I am unsure of whether anyone else wants that info out there. It is not really a secret for most here in central Ohio though. I had ten calls on the auction before I returned to town...don't really know what doug or daves feelings are on the subject though.

elonblock

09-16-2009, 01:24 AM

Congrats on the AMAZING find!

396L35

09-16-2009, 03:30 AM

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OK, so this was an auction, so the selling price obviously wasn't a secret, what did it go for? Inquiring minds want to know! Unbelievable find, good job Grumpy!!!!!!!

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Your not the only one wondering http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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I know what each and every item sold for but I am unsure of whether anyone else wants that info out there. It is not really a secret for most here in central Ohio though. I had ten calls on the auction before I returned to town...don't really know what doug or daves feelings are on the subject though.

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I feel that is a very personal question on how much the car sold for and please refrain yourself for asking such questions. I know Doug very well and I can tell you he is a very reserved person that doesn't like people digging into his personal finances and I amagine Dave is the same way. If you want a figure I can tell you it was a fair price, not a bargain but fair. Thank you, Mark

musclecarjohn

09-16-2009, 03:53 AM

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Unfrickingbelievable...! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

resto4u

09-16-2009, 04:03 AM

Not a secret, i called the auction company to find out. But the buyer may not want public. Good to know though if owner ever sells or decides to flip.

blown-v8

09-16-2009, 04:28 AM

Out of respect for the situation and mutual ties amongst close friends I will not disclose what was paid for the cars. But, my opinion is that it is of ZERO consequence in the future what someone paid for a given car, horse, house, cobra fender, widget or otherwise: it's worth what it's worth and what someone has in it simply does not matter. Point in question our cobra parts. I know within reason what they (could) be worth and I could give a rats butt if anyone knows what we paid for them. Truthfully they are soooo super cool that I would not consider selling them at ANY number right now. And I am sure Dave feels very much the same way about his super cool find. Congrats to all who attended the auction and walked away with something cool, no matter how rare it was or wasn't.

markjohnson

09-16-2009, 05:23 AM

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[/ QUOTE ] Wow! Calling up the auction company to find the selling price! You really felt the need to know that selling price, didn't ya? That, and "good to know if owner ever wants to sell or flip." Help me out here......why is this good for you to know and WHY would it make a difference if he decides to "flip" it. Why can't you just be happy that a nice guy found a great car and let it go at that?

lwkitt427

09-16-2009, 05:58 AM

I THINK THE CAR IS JUST GREAT LOOKING AND I AM GLAD TO SEE IT IS GOING TO BE PUT BACK ON THE STRIP OR FOR THAT FACT JUST PUT BACK RUNNING AND FOR THE VEIWING PLEASURE FOR US TO SEE WHAT A GREAT COPO IT IS. GREAT STORY AND A GREAT FIND IT GIVES US UNLUCKY GUYS HOPE THAT MAYBE JUST MAYBE WE CAN BE SO LUCKY TO OWN A PEICE OF HISTORY AN WE CAN TAKE PRIDE AN SHOWING IT TO THOSE WHO WISH TO WALK DOWN MENORY LANE. GREAT WORK FOR ALL INVLOVED AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE CAR ONE DAY

1970Bluel78

09-16-2009, 04:39 PM

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Not a secret, i called the auction company to find out. But the buyer may not want public. Good to know though if owner ever sells or decides to flip.

[/ QUOTE ] Wow! Calling up the auction company to find the selling price! You really felt the need to know that selling price, didn't ya? That, and "good to know if owner ever wants to sell or flip." Help me out here......why is this good for you to know and WHY would it make a difference if he decides to "flip" it. Why can't you just be happy that a nice guy found a great car and let it go at that?

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I would think a LOT of guys on this site and others would like an idea as to where the market might be now. This was an auction sale, not a private one. I don't see problem asking......so how much ?

Fast67VelleN2O

09-16-2009, 04:49 PM

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I would think a LOT of guys on this site and others would like an idea as to where the market might be now. This was an auction sale, not a private one. I don't see problem asking......so how much ?

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1969l78

09-16-2009, 05:11 PM

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OK, so this was an auction, so the selling price obviously wasn't a secret, what did it go for? Inquiring minds want to know! Unbelievable find, good job Grumpy!!!!!!!

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Your not the only one wondering http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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I know what each and every item sold for but I am unsure of whether anyone else wants that info out there. It is not really a secret for most here in central Ohio though. I had ten calls on the auction before I returned to town...don't really know what doug or daves feelings are on the subject though.

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I feel that is a very personal question on how much the car sold for and please refrain yourself for asking such questions. I know Doug very well and I can tell you he is a very reserved person that doesn't like people digging into his personal finances and I amagine Dave is the same way. If you want a figure I can tell you it was a fair price, not a bargain but fair. Thank you, Mark

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It was a public auction-I don't think anyone is trying to get into his personal finances like you make it sound. Great find

BARNFOUND YENKO

09-16-2009, 05:23 PM

Exactly, price is not important at all to anyone else but the owner. I am a buyer of these vintage racecars with history and would guesstimate could fetch anywhere from $50k to $100k today.

ANDY M

09-16-2009, 06:27 PM

I'm guessing that anybody who REALLY wants to know can call the auction company and find out what was the winning bid. I also know that as previously observed, it's not of any importance to anyone but Dave. I started this thread for Dave at his request, and there should be no doubt that this car is a keeper. When he is done going through the drivetrain, and fluffing up the exterior, this car will be seeing some track time for the first time since 1974.
I promise that there will be more pics posted as the project continues.
Thanks,
Andy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

John D Smith

09-16-2009, 11:33 PM

Like I said, since it was a public auction and not a private sale, I didn't think it was going to be a big deal. Apparently, I was wrong. I don't understand why the owner doesn't just say I paid XXXXXX amount of dollars for it and put it to rest. Eventually, somebody is going to post the figure, I am just curious as are most others. Sorry for asking.

SUSQ

09-17-2009, 02:27 AM

Man, what a great find! My congrats as well! Drive it like you stole it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Did I miss someting or was it never stated why the car was parked and remained untouched since 1974?
BTW, perch perogies at the Whip sounds pretty good! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

396L35

09-17-2009, 02:43 AM

If Dave wanted to announce the price he would have but since he wants to keep it to himself please give him the courtesy and drop the subject. The price was a fair market value for a COPO missing the original engine/trans and the family of the late owner did well with the sell. Mark

CDNL-78

09-17-2009, 03:16 AM

No matter what the price was, who cares. Great find Dave. All I ask for is a link to the utube video of it screaming down the 1/4 mile. I can't wait. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Rixls6

09-17-2009, 02:12 PM

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No matter what the price was, who cares. Great find Dave. All I ask for is a link to the utube video of it screaming down the 1/4 mile. I can't wait. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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Couldn't agree more. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

mfchassisworks

09-17-2009, 04:00 PM

Awesome car! Wow! Good Luck with getting it together.

mchriscad

09-17-2009, 05:39 PM

I will offer free enclosed transport to "The Ratical One" in November so we can all see it at the MCACN! Let me know.

ANDY M

09-17-2009, 10:54 PM

Cool! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

bashton

09-18-2009, 05:14 AM

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I will offer free enclosed transport to "The Ratical One" in November so we can all see it at the MCACN! Let me know.

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Now...how can you resist that offer? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

You know I have a prime spot with your name on it, Dave! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mr Cadwallader, you are a class act!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

m22mike

09-26-2009, 05:13 PM

Grady and I made a trip down to Columbus to visit with The new "C O P O L O C O" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Doug Perry and Dave, and to see the recent COPO discovery.
Can't wait till next spring.
Here are a few more pic's.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8291.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8339.jpg

Check out the lightning holes in the front bumper brackets.Look how nice the gold plating is on the parking lights.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8292.jpg

And the Sub Frame

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8315.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8321.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8318.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8319.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8320.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8325.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8329.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8331.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8332.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8334.jpg

This is cool, no C-Clip eliminator, no problem...just fab up some Tibor like brackets to keep the axle in the housing.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8335.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8336.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8340.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8341.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8342.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8343.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8344.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8325.jpg

There are some letter's bleeding through the paint, looks kind of like gold. I think these were the original owners name ???

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8317.jpg

Original correct 69 Gas cap

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8300.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8301.jpg

Check out these next two shots. Keep in mind these are factory quarters on this car.
Looks like someone forgot some spot weld's, and then later repaired by hand ?? Both sides the same.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8302.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8303.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8306.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8296.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8307.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSCF8295.jpg

I am sure there will me more on this Jewelle later, thanks Doug and Dave for the tour. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Mike

Chevy454

09-26-2009, 05:23 PM

All I can say is...http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

Mr. Chevy

09-26-2009, 08:01 PM

Looks like the original owner did the "old trick" of making a hole in the firewall to where you can play with the distributor timing while seated in the car...

Very Cool Car!!

Rich

alan09

09-26-2009, 08:09 PM

That car was a steal at 50k. Wish I could have made it to the auction. Had to work that weekend. My good friend was there and said there was alot of old things at auction. Great find hope to see it in person again.

Stefano

09-26-2009, 08:46 PM

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

mockingbird812

09-26-2009, 09:17 PM

Great shots Mike. Thanks! What a car!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Salvatore

09-26-2009, 11:08 PM

Love the wide traction bars and the swizz cheese frame. I wonder if there is a liitle swiss under the door panels like the Lafferty ZL-1? Man what a time piece! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Chevy454

09-26-2009, 11:33 PM

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Looks like the original owner did the "old trick" of making a hole in the firewall to where you can play with the distributor timing while seated in the car...

Very Cool Car!!

Rich

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif Not sure I'm following that one...looks like a hole & cable for the tach?

m22mike

09-26-2009, 11:39 PM

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Looks like the original owner did the "old trick" of making a hole in the firewall to where you can play with the distributor timing while seated in the car...

Very Cool Car!!

Rich

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif Not sure I'm following that one...looks like a hole & cable for the tach?

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Yea Richy Rutt...what are you talkin about.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

iluv69s

09-27-2009, 12:06 AM

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Looks like the original owner did the "old trick" of making a hole in the firewall to where you can play with the distributor timing while seated in the car...

Very Cool Car!!

Rich

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif Not sure I'm following that one...looks like a hole & cable for the tach?

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Yea Richy Rutt...what are you talkin about.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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old trick?? cool idea, but i never heard of that one. I see where he covered the wiper motor hole..and the heater box...but the interior dash looks all there???

but that it an awesome trick/idea !!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

Mr. Chevy

09-27-2009, 12:56 AM

A friend of mine has a 70 L78 Nova that was an old drag car. His Uncle is actually the original owner of the car and I personally know and have talked to him many times. Anyhow, he told me that he actually cut a hole in the firewall as to reach the distributor when he was seated in the car to play around with the timing just before going down the track. I have seen this on the car also..

From the pictures it looked like there is a hole for that...
Maybe it is just for the tach cable.. Thought there was some contraption set up to adjust the distributor from inside the car... Next time I see my friend's L78 I'll have to get pictures and post them of the firewall area. He covered the hole the best he could but you can still see where the hole was cut.. I have photos of the car and engine compartment but not close ups of the firewall area..

Rich

markjohnson

09-27-2009, 01:17 AM

Great photos, thanks for posting. I haven't seen that style axle-retaining devices in a very LONG time! Quite primitive, but effective nonetheless! What a great car. Looks like the trunk was full of stuff, any great finds inside there? I've always been a big fan of the Holley Dominator/Edelbrock C454 manifold. That's a great induction set-up and was VERY effective for many years. Still is.

markjohnson

09-27-2009, 01:19 AM

Hey, it looks like the Corvette distributor still has the shiny identification band around it. Run the numbers, you have something special there too!

m22mike

09-27-2009, 03:03 AM

Hay Rich...dude must of had some long arms... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

69z2x4

09-27-2009, 03:34 AM

This thing brings back alot of old memories!

x Baldwin Motion

09-27-2009, 03:55 AM

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Absolutely Outrageous http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

Bill Pritchard

09-27-2009, 04:56 AM

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...and been double or triple jointed http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I would think you'd need to cut a big access hole in the dashboard, too http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

m22mike

10-11-2009, 12:26 AM

Dave just got a few photos of his COPO from the original owner, and he asked if I would post them for him.
Neat stuff... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/Image1-25-11_edited-1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/Image1-66_edited-1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/Image1-67_edited-1.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/Image1-22-1_edited-1.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

m22mike

10-11-2009, 02:31 AM

Some from Dave

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSC04506.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSC04509.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSC04516.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSC04517.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSC04518.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/DSC04522.jpg

Mr. Chevy

10-11-2009, 02:48 AM

That first picture before the paint change looks like it was at old Dragway 42... The other picture with the original paint and Cragars looks familiar also but I can't place it.. Somewhere in Parma possibly... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif That is a cool picture, love the meaty tires on the back and the stance!! Very tough looking...

Cool pics...

Rich

lzdick

10-11-2009, 06:10 AM

Doug,
I REALLY like the new C O P O L O C O screen name...very appropriate considering what you found for Dave. Certainly an improvement over the 'other' whack-job COPOLOCO/COPO427.

Salvatore

10-11-2009, 06:51 AM

Great pictures! Thanks for posting Mike! Sammy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

396L35

10-11-2009, 06:51 AM

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Doug,
I REALLY like the new C O P O L O C O screen name...very appropriate considering what you found for Dave. Certainly an improvement over the 'other' whack-job COPOLOCO/COPO427.

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Rich tell us how you really feel??? Wow no sugar coat there... I guess thats why we love LZ... Mark http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

olredalert

10-11-2009, 05:03 PM

-----Rich (Mr.Chevy),,,I dont remember the second set of lights at "42" or any other track in northern Ohio for that matter, but my memory is a bit rusty at times........Bill S

resto4u

10-11-2009, 07:23 PM

When and why did they put on SS emblems and black grill? To fake out the competion?????

Mr70

10-11-2009, 07:41 PM

What a nice find.Thanks for posting all the pix Mike.

DarrenX33

10-11-2009, 08:12 PM

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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/Image1-22-1_edited-1.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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I believe they refer to this as the "money shot". Wow!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Fast67VelleN2O

10-11-2009, 09:39 PM

I like the toploader upgrade!!!

markjohnson

10-11-2009, 09:52 PM

Darren, I think everybody's crazy about that particular photo! If somebody says close your eyes and picture a 'bad ass Camaro', this is the vision they think of. It sure does it for me!

396L35

10-11-2009, 10:34 PM

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Its a Hemi 4 speed that has been turned into a crash box. The wedge under the tranny gives it away.

Mr. Chevy

10-11-2009, 11:47 PM

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-----Rich (Mr.Chevy),,,I dont remember the second set of lights at "42" or any other track in northern Ohio for that matter, but my memory is a bit rusty at times........Bill S

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Bill, I'm not 100% sure that this picture was taken at 42, it looked to me like it was. I remember that building near the track. Last time I raced there was in the late 80s... I'll bet "Big Daddy Steve" (68l30) will know where these were taken!!

Rich http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

69 Post Sedan

10-12-2009, 02:54 AM

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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/Image1-22-1_edited-1.jpg

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I believe they refer to this as the "money shot". Wow!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

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That "money shot" reminds me of this one. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/brkyard/356216-tn_reunionbackingin.jpg

DarrenX33

10-12-2009, 04:43 AM

Son of a gun your right! Ok Schonye, what skins were on the mule?

69 Post Sedan

10-12-2009, 05:05 AM

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Son of a gun your right! Ok Schonye, what skins were on the mule?

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I can't find the close up picture of the rear wheel/tire that is out there. This is the best I could do...BTW, yes they are slicks. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/brkyard/354342-tn_100_0091.jpg

COPO CARTEL

10-12-2009, 05:08 AM

The original owner said he put the "SS" badges on it to keep the wolf hidden behind sheeps clothing. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif By the way look at the fender alignment to the door. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif I am sure there are some EXPERTS out there that would say look at the 69 plates withh " SS " badges...must be a 396 car... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

GrumpysToy

10-12-2009, 06:46 AM

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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/m22mike/69%20copo/Image1-22-1_edited-1.jpg

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I believe they refer to this as the "money shot". Wow!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

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That "money shot" reminds me of this one. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn2/brkyard/356216-tn_reunionbackingin.jpg

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I really am into day 2 cars and I had THIS picture of the blue 69 COPO as the background on my computer for most of the summer and I just updated it when I bought the "Ratical One" Camaro...................

farone

10-12-2009, 04:48 PM

Here's the money shot

Schonyenko2

10-12-2009, 08:19 PM

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Son of a gun your right! Ok Schonye, what skins were on the mule?

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10.00-15's on 8in. Cragers. I like the shackle setup on the green car. That's a very cool piece. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

68l30

10-13-2009, 04:41 AM

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-----Rich (Mr.Chevy),,,I dont remember the second set of lights at "42" or any other track in northern Ohio for that matter, but my memory is a bit rusty at times........Bill S

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Bill, I'm not 100% sure that this picture was taken at 42, it looked to me like it was. I remember that building near the track. Last time I raced there was in the late 80s... I'll bet "Big Daddy Steve" (68l30) will know where these were taken!!

Rich http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Looks like 42 to me. The concession building in the pic looks like the one they used long ago. That would be on the side of the track that ran along route 42 and not what is the only pit side today. I believe they also ran multi car races as a gimmic back in the early mid 70's. I know three cars was not unheard of and that would explain the extra tree. Rich, the other picture looks familiar also. I can place the church in the distance and the Parma area comes to mind. I was thinking the Parmatown mall area at first, but the church is different. The powerhouse in the backround is throwing me off...Might be on Pleasent Vally close to York?? Pre Tri High?? It's driving me nuts...I can picture the area!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Big

68l30

10-13-2009, 05:42 AM

The other two drag pics are at Thompson... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

Big

1969grb

10-13-2009, 07:09 AM

Steve, Could that be in front of the old Veteran's hospital? Now Tri-Chttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Grady

olredalert

10-13-2009, 07:21 AM

-----You guys could definetly be right. I moved to Ft. Liquerdale in 1969 and didnt come back around 42 till probably 1980 or so. That would explain me never having seen that second set of lights.......Bill S

68l30

10-13-2009, 03:35 PM

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Steve, Could that be in front of the old Veteran's hospital? Now Tri-Chttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Grady

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That's what I'm thinking...gonna have to do a drive by.

Big

COPO CARTEL

10-13-2009, 11:38 PM

Steve, the original owner lived on Pleasant Valley Road. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Mr. Chevy

10-13-2009, 11:47 PM

Steve, that power plant looking building was throwing me off also... Could very well be where "Tri Hi" is now.. Doug, the Tri-C college campus is very close in proximity to Pleasant Valley Rd. Actually part of the college is on that road. I know it well, spent 2 yrs of my life there to get part of my degree...

I thought that first picture was at 42, like I said I remember that building... Big you da man!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

Rich

68l30

10-14-2009, 04:37 AM

I just love seeing local iron come out of hiding after so many years. I believe our area was one of the best as far as ordering up muscle....A lot of blue collars and white knuckles tearing up the streets.With three local drag strips still going strong after 40 + years.....I know there are more cars out there...Cleveland Rocks!

Big http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 04:33 AM

Just got a whole bunch of pictures and VIDEO from back in the day ,of my COPO from the original owner.

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-3_edited-1.jpg

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 04:37 AM

Here is some more.....must have been an indoor car show in Cleveland (autorama?)

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-7_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-23_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-5_edited-1.jpg

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 04:44 AM

Thanks to M22 Mike for helping me with "how to download the pics" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

mockingbird812

11-17-2009, 04:51 AM

Most excellent Dave. Love the vintage photos! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 05:01 AM

Thanks!

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-8_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-9_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-27_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-18_edited-1.jpg

Xplantdad

11-17-2009, 05:06 AM

That is just too cool! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 05:10 AM

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-20_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-21_edited-2.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-41_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-42_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-44_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-34_edited-1.jpg

m22mike

11-17-2009, 05:15 AM

Your welcome Dave...However most of us learned it from Bruce... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Were waiting for more Dave http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif...

mockingbird812

11-17-2009, 05:18 AM

Yep - I'm another graduate of the Xplantdad school of photography (for dummies) too. Your car looked just killer back then. Any possibility of day-twoing your COPO?

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 05:19 AM

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-35_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-36_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-31_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-37_edited-1.jpg

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 05:23 AM

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Yep - I'm another graduate of the Xplantdad school of photography (for dummies) too. Your car looked just killer back then. Any possibility of day-twoing your COPO?

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I will probably keep it as a race car for a few years and then restore it as a day 2 car with cragars , headers,traction bars.....like in the early pictures

69 Post Sedan

11-17-2009, 05:24 AM

Great pics Dave. They are timeless!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

markinnaples

11-17-2009, 05:25 AM

That car and those pics just kick azz.

Awesome. Thanks for sharing.

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 05:27 AM

The pictures are cool....I will put the video on youtube and post it. It has the Camaro racing a silver Yenko Duece in one of the shots!

DarrenX33

11-17-2009, 05:31 AM

You keep posting these pictures I ain't gonna make it to 42. WOW! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

There is so much interesting stuff in those photos. For instance in that one shot there is a dusk blue Camaro, COPO?? Nice HO 69 Z behind it at the drags. Awesome!!

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 05:35 AM

These pics are with it lettered up on the original paint

[img]http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-13_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-16_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-17_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-1_edited-1.jpg

mockingbird812

11-17-2009, 05:39 AM

Get that video up PAAAAAAALEASE!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

COPO CARTEL

11-17-2009, 05:40 AM

Dave....I talked to Doug E. tonight...man what a GREAT guy to talk to...he said the indoor show was at the Cleveland Municipal Auditorium...and he was a member of the Choppers Hot Rod Club...he had the car there to support his friend that owned D and D Autobody. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

396L35

11-17-2009, 05:47 AM

That is one bad assss car Dave. Mark

COPO CARTEL

11-17-2009, 05:49 AM

Darren...it looks like the Dusk Blue car has white interior. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 06:30 AM

No luck getting the video downloaded , so here are some more pics for now.........

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-59_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-60_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-61_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-26_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-50_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-52_edited-1.jpg

Xplantdad

11-17-2009, 06:56 AM

Send me the video via email...I'll host it for you!

[email protected]

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 07:07 AM

On there way !!!

mockingbird812

11-17-2009, 07:09 AM

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

black69

11-17-2009, 07:15 AM

such a cool car, it looks so cool with the cragars, agree that is the money shot. cars with great history are the best.

1969grb

11-17-2009, 07:18 AM

Dave, http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Does it get any better than this? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

Grady http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 07:24 AM

Thanks Grady.........here are a few more pics

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-53_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-54_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-55.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-57_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-58_edited-1.jpg

Schonyenko2

11-17-2009, 07:43 AM

Absolutly awsome. Very cool pics. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Mr. Chevy

11-17-2009, 09:30 AM

Dave, those car show indoor photos are definately at the old Cleveland Convention Center which is still standing in Downtown Cleveland on Lakeside Rd. and until just a few years ago housed the Cleveland Auto Rama every year in January. Now the show has moved to the IX Center and is in March...

The photos are way cool!! All I can say is WOW!! It's funny to see how small Norwalk looked back then as compared to what it is today!!

Gotta love that Parma neighborhood shot also!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Rich http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Can-I-Have-It.gif

Woj

11-17-2009, 03:15 PM

Dave,

You are very fortunate to get these great photos of your car.
Thanks for sharing, they are absolutely awesome!

Phil W. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Xplantdad

11-17-2009, 04:07 PM

No go on the videos. I sent you an email. They have to be one of the file extensions that I sent to you via email...or, they can even be .mpeg as well http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

68l30

11-17-2009, 04:42 PM

The indoor shot was most likely the show run by the Choppers club. I believe they were the first to run what was later to become the Cleveland Auto-Rama in the old convention center.Cool!

Big

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 04:58 PM

I want to thank Doug Evancic , the original owner of the car for taking the time to put the CD together for all of us to enjoy and be able to go back to the "good ol days" one more time! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-3_edited-1.jpg

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MosportGreen66

11-17-2009, 05:05 PM

Top COPO find of the year? Understatement... COPO find of the century! Amazing photographic documentation.

-Dan

GrumpysToy

11-17-2009, 05:07 PM

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The indoor shot was most likely the show run by the Choppers club. I believe they were the first to run what was later to become the Cleveland Auto-Rama in the old convention center.Cool!

Big

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He was a member of the choppers club back then http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

68l30

11-17-2009, 05:10 PM

Thought so...I'm friends with one of the founding members and a few of the members active today. Strong club...Wish they would open their show to cars cars made after 64...it wasn't always this way, proof being your pictures!!

Big

CDNL-78

11-17-2009, 06:00 PM

No better documentation then them old photos. Keep em coming. How's the clean up of the car coming ?? Got any current pictures of anything you've done so far ?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

GrumpysToy

11-19-2009, 02:13 AM

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No better documentation then them old photos. Keep em coming. How's the clean up of the car coming ?? Got any current pictures of anything you've done so far ?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

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Have not done anything yet to the car , it "kinda popped up for sale" right in the middle of another COPO racer project for Doug Perry we are building so that he will have something to beat on at next years SCR event! I plan to start on "The Ratical One" very soon though.

GrumpysToy

11-19-2009, 02:40 AM

Here are a few more pictures.....

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-2.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-14_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-25-15_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-59_edited-1-1.jpg

GrumpysToy

11-19-2009, 02:46 AM

A few more......

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-60_edited-1-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-61_edited-1-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-62_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-63_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-64_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-65_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-66_edited-1.jpg

GrumpysToy

11-19-2009, 03:09 AM

few more....

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-65_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-67_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-68_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-69_edited-1.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/Image1-70_edited-1.jpg

Thats it for the Camaro pictures , I am still working on getting the VIDEO downloaded.
Here is a few pics of one of my other cars , you racers might enjoy. Ran 9.70 @ 138mph with street tires and mufflers and you could drive it to the race track!

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/img003.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/img004-1.jpg

markjohnson

11-19-2009, 03:15 AM

Dave, I remember your 'lil white Chevy II and the PHR feature on it. Man......9.70's is scootin'! I was crazy about that car! In fact, it was for sale less than a year ago and I gave it some serious consideration! I owned one very similar that I'll tell 'ya about this weekend in Chicago.

GrumpysToy

11-19-2009, 03:25 AM

It was a baddd little chevy two, I tried to buy it back this summer myself , he put it up for sale but decided to keep it a while longer.......I'll get it back someday!
C'ya in Chicago

CDNL-78

11-19-2009, 04:52 AM

Could that be a Hemi Dart racing the copo in one of them pic's ?? Looks like it has the cut out wheel wells. I'm not a dodge guy, but that was the first thing to come to mind when I seen it. Ant thoughts guys ?? That would be the same time frame wouldn't it ?? It would of been a heck of a race none the less. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

bergy

11-19-2009, 03:16 PM

Really cool Dave. I was fortunate enough to get a few original pics of my copos - you've got some real treasures there.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/coponew.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo199/cole1230/SCAN0054.jpg

9SECONDYENKO

11-19-2009, 10:11 PM

The name on the qtr panel that says Larocco is my buddys dad and uncles,they are cousins to the original owner of the copo.Mike Larocco had a 69 ZL1 pro stock camaro that he bought fron Sam Gellner in 1970.The camaro used to run at dargway42 and thompson raceway and was raced under the name L.S.D. for the last names of the guys that were partners on the ZL1.

396L35

11-19-2009, 11:56 PM

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The name on the qtr panel that says Larocco is my buddys dad and uncles,they are cousins to the original owner of the copo.Mike Larocco had a 69 ZL1 pro stock camaro that he bought fron Sam Gellner in 1970.The camaro used to run at dargway42 and thompson raceway and was raced under the name L.S.D. for the last names of the guys that were partners on the ZL1.

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They raced under the name LSD or were they on LSD while they raced??? Thats a cool story and this car has some awesome history. Mark

9SECONDYENKO

11-20-2009, 12:16 AM

I`am trying to get ahold of the photo album of the ZL1 and I will try to post some pictures.The name on the door stood for larocco slovic dodson who were all partners in the ZL1.

Jeff H

11-22-2009, 02:14 AM

Awesome, I love the old pictures! Thanks for sharing and thank the owner who passed them on to you.

9SECONDYENKO

12-03-2009, 06:50 AM

I have the photo album of the69 ZL1 pro stock,I will try to scan the photos this weekend so bear with me I`am not the best with this computer stuff.I will post them as soon as I can.Thanks Ray

9SECONDYENKO

01-02-2010, 06:51 PM

PICTURES OF THE 69 ZL1
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii235/butchtumbry/img028.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii235/butchtumbry/img026.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii235/butchtumbry/img025.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii235/butchtumbry/img013.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii235/butchtumbry/img012.jpg

L34Pace

01-02-2010, 10:47 PM

I really love the car, owner stories, and photo history on your car! Such an amazing day two historical trip you have documented.
Did it ever come to a conclusion where the vintage drag photos are from? I'm kind of interested since it looks like my 67 gold L79 M21 4.56:1 Malibu might be sitting in the background shot of the photos in post 429020 on pg 17. The car was out of West Chevrolet in Mogadore, just outside Akron, and raced local dragways by Frances Ripley from Tallmadge and then Greg Phile from Ravenna. Can anyone pinpoint the dragway in those photos dated June of 72?

Mr. Chevy

01-02-2010, 11:30 PM

Cool pics.. Ray.. Do you know where this car is today??

Rich

9SECONDYENKO

01-03-2010, 12:23 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I really love the car, owner stories, and photo history on your car! Such an amazing day two historical trip you have documented.
Did it ever come to a conclusion where the vintage drag photos are from? I'm kind of interested since it looks like my 67 gold L79 M21 4.56:1 Malibu might be sitting in the background shot of the photos in post 429020 on pg 17. The car was out of West Chevrolet in Mogadore, just outside Akron, and raced local dragways by Frances Ripley from Tallmadge and then Greg Phile from Ravenna. Can anyone pinpoint the dragway in those photos dated June of 72?

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That looks like Thompson Raceway park because where the chevelle is pictured is where the return road is to drive to the north side of the pits.

9SECONDYENKO

01-03-2010, 12:34 AM

Rich,there is a funny story about that car my freinds dad and uncle bought the car from Sam Gellner in cleveland and Sam was the second owner of the car the orginal owner was a person that worked at the lordstown chevy plant and he sold the car to Sam soon after he bought it and then Sam sold it to the Laroccos and they continued to run p/s with the car.I talked to Dean Gellner abouth the car and he had heard that Reggie Jackson had the car at one time.The orginal color of the car was dark green with black guts,when I talked to my freinds dad about the car he talked about how they had acid dipped the car and lightened it up and when they traded the car to Arlen Vanke that is was pretty much was used up.Is this the car from the Barret -Jackson auction from a few years ago?

William

01-03-2010, 12:46 AM

The ZL-1 in question could be #53 124379N634918. Sold new out of Lyle Chev in OH. Did have Reggie history. The COPO Connection had it listed as being white originally.

9SECONDYENKO

01-03-2010, 12:50 AM

I just talked to my freind and he said that the car was white.my mistake is Lyle chev by Lordstown?

m22mike

01-03-2010, 01:40 AM

Lyle was in Cuyahoga Falls Oh.

racegump

01-03-2010, 01:44 AM

Awsome photo's! Stuff like this made racing Stock Eliminator my dream when I was a teenager.

9SECONDYENKO

01-03-2010, 01:45 AM

Thanks Mike,I hve more pictures of this car if you guys want me to I can post them.Ray

m22mike

01-03-2010, 03:11 AM

Post away...I don't think anyone will mind... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

markjohnson

01-03-2010, 03:28 AM

I agree! If I had the money and dedication, I'd love to be running a real NHRA A/Stock or B/Stock car in competition. I love those classes wit the stock intakes and carbs, 9-inch slick rule and sub-10 second performances. Neat stuff!

GrumpysToy

01-04-2010, 06:38 AM

Neat pictures Ray , would like to see more! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

Here are some pics of parts off the COPO racer. It still had the original alternator on it , along with the upper and lower radiator hose's and bottom crank pulley. The upper hose only has an AU stamped into the hose and the lower on has a white stamped part number but is much bigger than the REPO's you get now.

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/raticalonebackintheday078.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/raticalonebackintheday083.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/raticalonebackintheday085.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/raticalonebackintheday076.jpg

GrumpysToy

01-04-2010, 06:48 AM

A few more , the valve covers have "Japan" stamped in them , didn't know they were making our speed parts back in 1970? Both of them have GM "S" rivet oil caps on them. The plug wires are dated 5/71 ( I might have to update those!)

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/raticalonebackintheday077.jpg

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GrumpysToy

01-04-2010, 07:08 AM

Here is a good shot of the rear end code , lakewood driveshaft loop (it has one front and rear) , dual fuel pumps.

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/raticalonebackintheday059.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt32/GrumpysToy/raticalonebackintheday065.jpg

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mockingbird812

01-04-2010, 07:37 AM

Just great photos. PULEEEEEEASE keep them coming! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Nova Jed

01-04-2010, 08:01 AM

It's good to see that the 70's called and they want their paint schemes back! I love it! I know of a particular 69 Camaro that with undergo a similar paint scheme treatment.

Xplantdad

01-04-2010, 04:08 PM

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Just great photos. PULEEEEEEASE keep them coming! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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I agree! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

Mr. Chevy

04-25-2010, 01:39 AM

Still looking for Rodenfels Memorabilia...

Rich

Postsedan

04-25-2010, 01:44 AM

Great pics, thanks for sharing.

Dan

bashton

04-26-2010, 03:51 PM

Dave;

I would like to once again extend the invite to join us for the Muscle Car Nats show, November 20-21.

I am sure many members who are coming in from across the country would LOVE the opportunity to see this bit of history up close and personal.

Please consider and if you need more information, feel free to e-mail [email protected] or call me anytime on my cell; (586) 549-5291.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

Unreal

04-27-2010, 12:43 AM

Is there no "E" for Eaton on the rear? The reason I ask is that I have a BE I've been trying to verify, that does not have an "E".

69 Post Sedan

04-27-2010, 04:00 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unreal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there no "E" for Eaton on the rear? The reason I ask is that I have a BE I've been trying to verify, that does not have an "E". </div></div>

According to CRG BE stands for 4.10 Posi.

http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#AxleCodes

ANDY M

04-27-2010, 10:22 PM

The "E" is for the Eaton posi carrier, usually stamped under the date. Since it's a single letter that was hand stamped, this axle just didn't get the stamp.

Justbad Joe

04-28-2010, 06:36 AM

Hey Dave, car looks great! Tell Doug Perry I said hi and his car looks great too.
Joe

ss427copo

04-13-2012, 04:44 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GrumpysToy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here are a few more details on the car.
06A X44 57 fathom green 712 deluxe black int
427 copo , m22 trans(when new)
4,104 original miles on the body
all original sheet metal except hood
427 , aluminum heads , dominator intake and carb, chevy cable drive dist. , curved neck radiator,chrysler "HEMI 4 speed crash box" (the tranny of choice back in the day), original BB cross member, dual lakewood drive shaft loops, BE 12 bolt with summers bros axles,lakewood traction bars, front disc brakes were replaced with drum (for less drag Back in the day), dual SW fuel pumps,the sub frame and bumper brackets have been drilled with holes to reduce weight,no spoilers , still has all the original carpet and a lakewood bolt in roll bar.The original owner had the car painted as you see it when it was one year old, and for an old laquer paint job there is no checking at all from not seeing the light of day for almost 35 years.
As far as the class it ran in , he raced at AHRA and IHRA tracks and I don't remember the what class he said but from the way the car is set up it looks like an NHRA A/modified production car. But I will find out from the owner. </div></div>

I love to read these posts!
And to think I liked History Class back in high school too!

brent396

03-11-2013, 12:10 PM

Any updated pics of it now

firstgenaddict

03-11-2013, 07:32 PM

Does anyone know anything about the Larocco's?
We did business from the 80's - 2010 with a company named Larocco Industries based out of Loveland Ohio. Industrial paper/paperboard converter and merchants to printers in the Ohio Valley.

whitetop

08-01-2013, 12:02 AM

Any updates? Is this car being restored back to stock or kept in Race form?

396L35

08-01-2013, 12:48 AM

Last I heard it was going back to cookie cutter stock... It is just a shame to put it back...

Fast67VelleN2O

08-01-2013, 02:59 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 396L35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Last I heard it was going back to cookie cutter stock... It is just a shame to put it back... </div></div>

Should have been illegal to restore it to stock.

x Baldwin Motion

01-17-2016, 11:00 PM

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/01/full-2847-37779-fb_img_1453074972474.jpg
Is it this now?

L78M22Rag

01-18-2016, 01:29 AM

Keep restoring those cars everyone... Just leaves fewer and fewer survivors which get rarer and rarer!

ANDY M

01-18-2016, 02:33 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x Baldwin Motion</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/01/full-2847-37779-fb_img_1453074972474.jpg
Is it this now? </div></div>

That's Doug Perry in his Bob McDorman COPO.

Mr. Chevy

01-18-2016, 03:08 AM

Here's the pics of the "Ratical One" Camaro...

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With Larry's Yenko next to it! Cool....

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This is the Ratical One now restored. Photos courtesy of Bruce...

Rich