One of the "Infamous" L89 Nova's

[JRSully]

I know this one has been beaten to death. Sure would have been fun if you could really order one this way back in the day.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nova-SS-L...d=p4506.c0.m245 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nova-SS-L-89-396-375-HP-M21-4-Speed-Restored_W0QQitemZ170384818256QQcmdZViewItemQQptZU S_Cars_Trucks?hash=item27abba0050&_trksid=p4506.c0 .m245)

[427TJ]

So the B on the cowl tag is a "typo" by the factory? Oh nevermind.

[Mr. Chevy]

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So the B on the cowl tag is a "typo" by the factory? Oh nevermind.

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Yeah, what the heck is that all about?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Rich

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

It actually does look like a typo, otherwise its a very strange and unique combination. The extra digit after the date is odd too. Either somebody had a really bad day back then or....

[Mr70]

...his wife did. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[ORIGLS6]

If this car brings $125, Kwhizz should increase the coverage on his car DRAMATICALLY! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[m22mike]

@ 125 that's called a fishing expedition.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

'xactly, I'm not saying this car is an L89, we all know better, but the TT is a bit..... confusing!

[JRSully]

It just seems odd that this one 70 Nova has a BUNCH of stuff that was supposedly never available on a 70 Nova, L89, 4:10 rear (outside of a Deuce),heavy duty clutch (maybe there is a HD clutch Nova out there.?)"somehow" this guy got all 3 on the same car, remarkable.

[deuce-less]

reference pictures provided by the owner a few years ago

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt254/lafeagle/tn_blockstamping2.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt254/lafeagle/tn_l89trans1.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt254/lafeagle/tn_l891.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt254/lafeagle/tn_l89engine1.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt254/lafeagle/tn_l89pop1.jpg

http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt254/lafeagle/tn_l89pop2.jpg

[JRSully]

That VIN stamp on the block looks VERY funky

[MosportGreen66]

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That VIN stamp on the block looks VERY funky

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And the trans looks very fresh.

[Jeff H]

The VIN stamp on the trans does not match the one on the engine. The font on the 'O' is different and they should be the same. One of them if not both is not original.

[WILMASBOYL78]

I compared the VIN stamp and Tonowanda stamp to our "real" L78 cars and there is a noticeable difference....

wilma

[Stefano]

What does the "B" code on the trans represent and what was it represented to be?

[rafbody]

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What does the "B" code on the trans represent and what was it represented to be?

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The B in the stamp means the transmission was an M21. (A = M20, C = M22) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[92646]

You would think that if the car had a 4:10 rear end, L/89 motor and a 3-spoke steering wheel why stop at a M-21? I would think that it should have a M-22 to complete the package.

[Mr70]

He doesn't want to over do it. http://planetsmilies.net/smoking-smiley-5413.gif

[Charley Lillard]

Most 4 speed ZL1's were M21's...

[1969L78Nova]

I was led to beleive M22's were not available in Novas in 1970.

[Kim_Howie]

So big deal, they didn't have Alum. Heads either http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

http://planetsmilies.net/smoking-smiley-5413.gif http://planetsmilies.net/smoking-smiley-5413.gif http://planetsmilies.net/smoking-smiley-5413.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif there's alot of smokin' going on? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[kwhizz]

Smok'in Nova??............LOL


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/kwhizz/WaltArfonsNova.jpg

Ken

[WILMASBOYL78]

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So big deal, they didn't have Alum. Heads either http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

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Howie for president.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Dirtydave]

Before it was on Ebay, this car was listed on duponts registry for sale at $189,500!

[Dirtydave]

Just something fishy about the wrong interior color combinations (black bench seat, blue interior), plus the mysterious 'O' . That typoed trim tag is more rare than the car itself. Its an L-89, AND it has multiple typo's too? Wow, imagine the odds! This guy needs to play the lotto. Seriously, is it just me, or does something smell fishy?

[Kim_Howie]

No problem, it's one of none. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Stefano]

So, just what are you saying??

[lowmile]

The guy takes perfect pictures and then can't find the macro setting on the camera when he takes the shot of the protect-o- plate. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[alan09]

These cars do not exsist.

[Kim_Howie]

JMO It's not real. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif Again in 20 years I am still waiting to see evidence of a real L-89 nova.

[m22mike]

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The guy takes perfect pictures and then can't find the macro setting on the camera when he takes the shot of the protect-o- plate. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The VIN stamp on the engine appears wrong, the 10W... is 1OW, subtle, but it should be a zero not a letter. I saw that the rear code is CBW, which is a 4.10:1 code used on the deuces. However, that rear has been hit as well, the CBW stamping on the original cars is very unique - and this one is not even close. The fuzzy POP is interesting! Looks like a Sutliff car, they did get some cool stuff - but this car does not appear to be a legit L89.

[mockingbird812]

Marlin,

Wouldn't a "CBW" indicate a special heat treated ring and pinion? Has there been any other documented examples of special COPO high performance rear ends (CBW, BV) in other than COPO cars? Also, I would have expected that all CBW axles would have been assembled in a few batches in the May (or later) time frame (not March)in anticipation of the Deuce production. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[kwhizz]

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If this car brings $125, Kwhizz should increase the coverage on his car DRAMATICALLY! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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My "Clone" car is probably more correct than this one........LOL

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[92646]

Just by looking at the pictures your car was built a whole lot better than the silver car. If I had to spend that kind of money for a Nova your car would be a better value.

[kwhizz]

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Just by looking at the pictures your car was built a whole lot better than the silver car. If I had to spend that kind of money for a Nova your car would be a better value.

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Yep!! Gotta love that Orange County sheet metal....LOL

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[427TJ]

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Just by looking at the pictures your car was built a whole lot better than the silver car. If I had to spend that kind of money for a Nova your car would be a better value.

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I think Ken promised me first dibs. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Xplantdad]

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Just by looking at the pictures your car was built a whole lot better than the silver car. If I had to spend that kind of money for a Nova your car would be a better value.

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I think Ken promised me first dibs. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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Not until you buy him his diet Coca-Cola... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SS427]

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I think Ken promised me first dibs. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

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Not until you buy him his diet Coca-Cola... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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If you really want to get in good with him, find him a case of Diet Ting!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[ORIGLS6]

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Howie for president.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

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Ya know, last year I would have argued that, but .................... things CHANGE. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[JRSully]

My 69 L78 Nova has what appears to be the original BW rear (4:56) still in it, the cast date/assembly date/patina are right in line with everyting else on the car. The original gears were taken out and I do not have them, but if there is a specific COPO posi case/axel # I will see if it is there

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The CBW rears have the heat treated stuff, but otherwise they are not really that 'special', ie; no special posi unit, clutch pak, springs, plates - none of that stuff that you would find on a 'BE' coded ZL1 rear. So, I believe that the CBW code was unique due to the 4.10:1 ratio going into a '70 Nova - in '69 this application would not have needed a special code (would have probably just been a BV code), but in '70 it was special, and therefore was part of the COPO (most likely #9737, not #9010).

[Dirtydave]

Total newbie here...I dont understand the reference to "orange county sheetmetal", whats that about?

[92646]

Ken found his Nova down here in the city of Orange when they were shooting a special show about Ken and the house wives of Orange county.

[Xplantdad]

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Ken found his Nova down here in the city of Orange when they were shooting a special show about Ken and the house wives of Orange county.

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Close...they were shooting a special about the "Housewives of Orange County: and how their purses went missing! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

What Ken is saying is that you can't go wrong with good SoCal cars in general (no rust) unless they are from the beach area... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif