Rumor that Muscle Car Review magazine's DOA again

[tom406]

Saw this rumor posted on another web site. Does anyone have any first hand info as to whether that's true or not? Customer Service says its still publishing, but Source-Interlink's web site link directs you to CAR CRAFT's site now, and one of the subscription selling sites is showing the item as possibly discontinued. I've got a bad feeling..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Xplantdad]

I noticed that I got redirected on the website a week or two ago...I thought they just made a mistake with the code... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hmmm.gif

[wheelhop]

possibly bought out by Car Craft??

[tom406]

Nah... they're owned by the same company already. When Muscle Car Review returned after its last "hiatus", it came back as a newsstand special periodical with a small Car Craft logo (you know, like "Car Craft presents....MCR!) Internally, I suspect Car Craft is considered its closest relative.

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

I hope not,just renewed my subscription for a another year.

[agtw31]

that editorial stating why they were only going to run Mopar GM and Ford in the shootout lost them some subscribers,im sure.
on top of that,they run obvious clones in the shootout.

very lame.

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[Don_Lightfoot]

I certainly hope not as I think they are the best Musclecar mag out there. Maybe they don't have the real lengthy articles or incredible photos that the other two do, but their variety is top notch in my opinion. I did not renew my subscriptions to the other two simply because they highlight too many modern cars (post 1972) and some of the older cars they have done are not of interest to me or are simply just lame (at least for me).

[Svendsen]

To borrow, rumors of our death have been greatly exaggerated. Muscle Car Review is alive and well. I just now (5:30 PM 12/2) spoke to MCR editor Drew Hardin, and all is well, we're profitable, healthy, and looking forward to a great year for 2010. The reasons the link sends you to Car Craft is that we've never had a website, not sure about the future possibility of one. But hey, we prefer working with great sites and the great people we find on yenko.net!

I believe there are many exciting issues coming up for 2010, and we truly appreciate the support. Feel free to move MCR from the back of the magazine rack and to the front shelf, right on top of those ridiculous video game magazines.

Any suggestions, fire away!

Thanks,
Arvid Svendsen
[email protected]

[69L78Post]

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I certainly hope not as I think they are the best Musclecar mag out there. Maybe they don't have the real lengthy articles or incredible photos that the other two do, but their variety is top notch in my opinion. I did not renew my subscriptions to the other two simply because they highlight too many modern cars (post 1972) and some of the older cars they have done are not of interest to me or are simply just lame (at least for me).

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I completely agree with you Don http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[wheelhop]

Glad to hear ! I'm currently in Columbia, SC and am in dire need of Muscle Car Review mag. Where can I get it down here? The local grocery stores don't have it.

[1969l78]

Barnes and Noble have them or any book store also should have it. Its a top class mag.

[ORIGLS6]

Good news. I had just renewed as well.

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

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To borrow, rumors of our death have been greatly exaggerated. Muscle Car Review is alive and well. I just now (5:30 PM 12/2) spoke to MCR editor Drew Hardin, and all is well, we're profitable, healthy, and looking forward to a great year for 2010. The reasons the link sends you to Car Craft is that we've never had a website, not sure about the future possibility of one. But hey, we prefer working with great sites and the great people we find on yenko.net!

I believe there are many exciting issues coming up for 2010, and we truly appreciate the support. Feel free to move MCR from the back of the magazine rack and to the front shelf, right on top of those ridiculous video game magazines.

Any suggestions, fire away!

Thanks,
Arvid Svendsen
[email protected]

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Glad to hear Arvid,i enjoy your articles and think Muscle Car Review is the best Mag...

[x Baldwin Motion]

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Good news. I had just renewed as well.

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Dennis, I was thinking of you when I saw this the other day http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

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Just didn't have time to switch GOLF to CAR

[tom406]

Sorry to perpetuate an apparent internet myth. Thanks for setting the record straight. I know its a tough industry now-I enjoy the magazine and wish you good luck. My only criticism is that you guys get sold a bill of goods on some of these cars that the owners claim are super special. Sad, but I think you have to be more diligent in making them back up their claims, almost as if you're buying the car. Otherwise you're perpetuating their delusions of grandeur.

Again, thanks for chiming in.

TOM

[Bill Pritchard]

Guess I learned something...I didn't even know they were once again in existence http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I was a subscriber from day one back in the 1980's and when they first went under my subscription (I was paid up about 5 years in advance! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ) got transferred to Musclecar Enthusiast, which I still subscribe to.

[69B Z28]

I had the same thing happen to me Bill. Was a long time subscriber from the very beginning, signed on for a few years and then got dumped on with Hot Rod magazine for the rest of my subscription!

The magazine was great and I really looked forward to each issue but thought what they did was just wrong, especially when they brought it back!

Lesson learned, Hemmings is the only mag I'll take a chance on now with a multi-year subscription.....Scot

[Svendsen]

Thank you guys for the kind words.

Wheelhop, I get MCR at Walmart, usually carry it.

Tom, you're right, we do have to be diligent about checking out the cars. The tendency is to trust the owner's claims, and frankly, most guys I meet are good, honest people. Sometimes an owner is genuinely misinformed about his car.


Arvid Svendsen
[email protected]

[bashton]

Gotta give Mr. Svendsen credit for chiming in here and setting the record straight.

I can tell you Arvid is indeed one of "The good guys" who lives and breaths cars just like the rest of us. How many magazine guys do you know who work well into the morning hours shooting cars after hours at an event, and then come back again the next two days after?

And if you think I am saying this because he is known to play around with an occasional AMC and that I am kissing up to get more MCACN coverage, well...you are right!

Now...get out there and buy MCR!!!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[old5.0]

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To borrow, rumors of our death have been greatly exaggerated. Muscle Car Review is alive and well. I just now (5:30 PM 12/2) spoke to MCR editor Drew Hardin, and all is well, we're profitable, healthy, and looking forward to a great year for 2010. The reasons the link sends you to Car Craft is that we've never had a website, not sure about the future possibility of one. But hey, we prefer working with great sites and the great people we find on yenko.net!

I believe there are many exciting issues coming up for 2010, and we truly appreciate the support. Feel free to move MCR from the back of the magazine rack and to the front shelf, right on top of those ridiculous video game magazines.

Any suggestions, fire away!

Thanks,
Arvid Svendsen
[email protected]

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Good. I just subscribed for the first time. I've got a collection of MCR going back to 1987, but I always bought it at the newstand.

[sYc]

Arvid..as others have said, thanks for the clarification.


Keep up the good work! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[agtw31]

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Tom, you're right, we do have to be diligent about checking out the cars. The tendency is to trust the owner's claims, and frankly, most guys I meet are good, honest people.

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this is a joke,right?

you feature a 67 442 in your mag that is "supposedly" a 1 of 1 Hurst equipped 442.it had el cheapo repop hurst emblems and the car had a column shift.
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did you contact Hurst to verify this car was even made?

there were other examples,but this is the one that was so obvious a BS story,i just laughed when i read it.

[1969z280]

Hey Arvid:

Nice to hear my subscription is in good hands!

Welcome aboard! This is a cool site. Although there is always the occasional jerk.

Ed Lis http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Don_Lightfoot]

Just so happens that today I get an email with a renewal offer for $XX.XX. Often times these magazines send out notices way in advance in hopes of getting you committed for long periods of time. I didn't know when mine expired so I called them to enquire. Turns out mine is in fact expiring in Mar/10. I was offerred a renewal on the phone which was considerably lower than the email offer.

Chttp://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gifL. Done deal.

Thanks MCR, keep up the good work.

[Svendsen]

Ed, thanks for the welcome, and remember I have first dibs on the red GTO.

Andy, I'm not joking when I said that we have to be diligent, and that most people I have met are good, honest people. Still have to stand by that statement.

I don't know the article to which you are referring, so I can't speak to it. However, my understanding is that the 442 L78 package added to the Cutlass Supreme in 1967 did not include buckets, so column shift was possible.

Speaking personally, not for the other contributors, a good backstory can make a case for putting a feature together on a car that might not be the highest quality restoration. I will often try to sell that story to Drew. We hear a lot of people interested in featuring "regular guy" muscle cars.

And we do feature clones because we see them as a significant portion of the hobby. At the same time, we would obviously decry anyone who would attempt defraud someone by misrepresenting a car.

Additionally, when I work with a broad range of cars, I'm likely to miss what others who know the particular car featured would quickly catch. But for discussion purposes let me ask you, would you pass on an immaculate, real deal car if you knew the engine paint was a shade off? Or if a few parts on the car were cheap repro items because the owner was searching for NOS items, or better quality repros? In all likelihood, I would still do the story, I'm hearing you say you would not do the story.

I respect your opinion and convictions on these points, they certainly warranted a response. If your in Chicagoland, I'll buy you coffee.

Arvid Svendsen
[email protected]

[Svendsen]

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If your in Chicagoland, I'll buy you coffee.



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uhhhhhh, should read "If YOU'RE in Chicagoland..."
Sorry. Please don't tell the boss.

Don Lightfoot, "not related to Gordon but a better singer", classic line, Don. Great 300 Deluxe SS, wow!

Bob Ashton, MCACN was awesome, thanks for the hospitality.


Arvid Svendsen

[agtw31]

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I don't know the article to which you are referring, so I can't speak to it.

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this is the car,it was featured in your mag back in summer of '06
a column shifted 442 that your mag said was 1 of 4 made(all owned by the same guy).
complete with a Hurst emblem from a Rambler on the trunk,and no Hurst equipment anywhere,and with a 455 that wasnt even made yet by Oldsmobile.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3725/olds230.jpg

This is a highly unusual and very rare piece. It’s a 1967 Cutlass 4-4-2, one of four modified by Hurst to sell Oldsmobile on the Hurst/Olds concept, and powered by the 455-cu.in. four-barrel Toronado engine. This gem belongs to Douglas Alsip of Cincinnati.

[Svendsen]

Andy, I probably should have added that even if knew the article to which you were referring, I still couldn't speak to it. I certainly don't know the facts surrounding other stories in MCR. I have the highest regard for my fellow contributors, and I know that the scrutiny applied to my articles is consistent across the board.

I'd be happy to attempt to answer any questions about any articles I have written, my email is below.


Thanks,
Arvid Svendsen
[email protected]

[Xplantdad]

Better yet...Andy, why don't you email the editor? That way your complaint will be heard loud and clear...

Arvid, thanks for hanging with us goofs! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[jannes_z-28]

My heart did an extra beat when I saw the subject of this thread. I did just sign up for another 2-year deal that I got an offer on email of.

MCR is the best magazine, it has a mix of cars from all brands and I like when there is a special on some model, like the Buick GSXs recently.

I also like when they run cars that are not super-restored, just cool cars that are used and you can see it.

Jan

[Tracker1]

I love Muscle Car Review. I have every single issue including its first as Popular and Performance Car Review, collecting them all since I was 15 years old. It is my favourite Musclecar mag and I hope it stays around forever. But something in the latest issue boiled my blood and I just sent Drew Hardin an e-mail to let him know.

Arvid you do great work, but this month was a misstep. A big one. Five colour pages including two(!) spreads on a 318 Poly '66 Coronet does not belong in Musclecar Review. It isn't a musclecar, it never was one, and no matter how big the hemi you jam down in the engine compartment, it never will be. I was getting ready to read an article on a rescued, banged-up but original Hemi Coronet (wow!) and then realized this guy is writing about some 318 wreck he dragged from a boneyard surrounded by other Mopar mediocrity.

You did save a potentially nice car from the crusher - good on you. You could even give us a little half-page on it, with a pic of the crate hemi you purchased next to it. That's acceptable. But five(5) colour pages in a national magazine? Was Drew asleep? It's FILLER. And after all the shows and meets this summer there were plenty of cars that guys and girls worked hard to restore and find parts for - real cars, rare cars - that deserved to go in those five pages. Not your own car.

You came on here. I'm just giving you my two cents. Keep doing the great work you usually do, just don't do something like this again to "my" magazine. End of rant.

[The Dude]

I think a lot of Olds guys emailed after that article.

Hey Arvid, any chance on doing that red 65 442 we talked about? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Svendsen]

Tracker1, thanks for the kind words about my other articles.

I like your passion for muscle cars, original cars, and for the concept of good cars deserving space. On that point, I would definitely concede that my car is not worthy of space. I'm glad I didn't build the article around my '70 Javelin, because frankly that car is in much the same league as my Coronet, except that it is more heavily modified/butchered. I'm certainly aware that there are quite a few guys in muscle car land that only pay attention to real deal cars. I've been fortunate enough to hear firsthand their passion for the genuine article, and it is very cool, even inspiring to hear of the work they've put in to make their cars perfect. You might be one of those guys, if so, way to go, keep it up.

My reaction to your post is that your comments are based on the premise that clone cars are not worthy of attention, and have little relevance to restoring muscle cars. On that point, I would respectfully disagree.

Drew's words are essentially "clones are a significant portion of our hobby." As a matter of fact, I believe next month's theme is "clones cars", so get ready. In that issue I feature a very nice 64 Pontiac full size car that started life as a 389 column shift automatic, converted to 421/four speed power. That guy loves muscle cars, is passionate about his Pontiac, and is presently working on a "real" muscle car. A lot of guys I meet in this hobby often have a clone or two hanging around so they can drive something.

By the way, issue after the clone cars is "Hemi Cars". Hello happiness.

Yes, there are plenty of real cars out there, but honestly, I can't afford them. Five kids, two of them in college, right now, I'm just happy to work on any old car (uhh, I mean any old Mopar http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif). I'm guessing that if my Coronet was a real Hemi car, I would have been close to 20 grand just to buy the car. By not buying a real car, I saved almost 20 grand by going with my 318 car.

I've also learned that building a clone car is better than having an empty garage. It gives me a chance to build a car while my sons are still around. Drew's receptiveness to building clone muscle cars stems from his belief that my situation might be similar to many of our readers. Last years biggest issue was the barn find issue.

I believe there has been good reaction to the "409 On a Dime" articles, and the Coronet is along those lines. Many of the tech articles covering restoration are the same whether a car is a real muscle car, or a clone... Media blasting my car will be about the same as it would be for a real Hemi car. The hook in the story was answering the simple question "how do I get my barn find home?"

I'll be honest, maybe I liked doing the article on the Coronet because growing up I always wondered if the guys writing in the magazines were actually into cars themselves... kinda liked it when they talked about what they were working on.

Tracker1, buddy, it's a good thing you care about these issues. Most of the articles will be about the premier cars in the hobby, but fortunately the muscle car hobby allows for participation on a smaller budget.

Come to Chicago, and as I said to Andy, I'll buy coffee, even on my budget http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Arvid Svendsen
[email protected]

[Tracker1]

I agree- clones are here to stay. People have been putting SS badges and stripes on Chevelles for 25 years or more. The Black 1969 Motion Chevelle clone that Dan (postsedan) did at his shop is a work of art. Correct clones of period Super Stock cars like Hemi Darts and such- awesome. I saw an article somewhere on a guy who had a collection of original shelby interior and exterior pieces and built himself a 66 GT-350. Shelby himself even signed it, it was so nice. No problem there.

But five pages, dude. 5 PAGES! That's almost 6% of the magazine. Insert air being sucked back through my teeth here.

Like I said, you guys are awesome over there at MCR. I just think that much coverage for an employee's clone project is out of balance.

Chicago is on my travel list for 2011. See ya then. Starbucks dark roast- cheers.

[Svendsen]

The Dude, email me, thanks.

Tracker, We're on, 2011.