Question about Slicks....

[Mr. Chevy]

Does anyone know if there would be a problem using a new Hurst Slick Tire on the rear and a new repro. Wide Oval Bias Ply Tire on the front??? It looks like from the Hurst Slick Tire Website in Oregon they say that the slicks are re-capped on a radial tire.. I noticed they had nylon ones as well. I was wondering if this would make a problem with driveability.. I know it's a "NO NO" to mix bias and radial tires together...

I tried to call the company to ask them but couldn't get through...

Thanks... Rich

[markjohnson]

Don't mix Radials and Bias tires. I've been around a lot of these "pie-crust" vintage-style slicks and the best ones to buy are the Radir slicks that are entirely brand new tires and casings and are available only through Radir Wheels and their dealers.

[PxTx]

If my memory serves me right, Pennslyvania saftey inspection allows bias and radial tires to be mixed BUT the same type must match on the same axle. For example you could run bias up front and radials on the back axle.

I've certainly done it. I think it would be less noticable in an old car than on some modern ones.

What are you afraid of? As long as you don't expect the car to do much else than go stright and fast, I think you'll be fine.

There certainly is something to be said for Mark's comments. I've never really liked retreads more on principal than the technology. I'm not familiar with Radir's product line. Do they have something historically correct for the late 60's?

[Mr. Chevy]

I'm looking for 1/4 mile track driveability and just "putzin" around town to local car cruise nights, no highway driving or high speed other than the 1/4 mile track straights.. Thanks...

Rich

[markjohnson]

http://www.radirwheels.com/contents.htm These Radir slicks are great and naturally you'll wanna avoid the rain but with their 4-ply sidewall, they actually drive quite nice compared to a wrinkle-wall slick. Now, I ran the 10.00 x 15's that are close to 30 inches tall and it really took me a long time to get the air pressure situation right. I started like I normally would with about 10-11 LBS. but I never started getting a nice even footprint across until a little over 30 LBS. Yeah, I know.......that's a lot of air pressure for a slick, but that's when they started finally leaving a decent footprint and actually ripped off my housing perches due to their effectiveness.

[PxTx]

Looked at the link, but the frames configuration may have messed it up a little. Do they offer a slick without the white-walls?

[Mr. Chevy]

Doesn't look like they do. They even note you can turn in the whitewall if you don't want it showing..

Rich

[Berger RS Copo]

Rich, I'm not sure about the Hurst slick,but lots of drag racers run radial slicks with bias front tires.

[markjohnson]

About the Radir slicks, I couldn't wait to mount them on my original American Racing Magnesium 5-spokes onto my '55 ex-C/Gasser with the whitewalls out. I really thought that it would look great! Well, I hated it too immediately and didn't even drive the car before removing them and reversing them with BLACKWALLS OUT. Then.......it looked right! I don't know if somebody makes a marker or paint maybe where you can totally remove the white if even having it on the inside still bother you at all.

[mnyenko]

I liked the Hurst cheaters on Colin's GTO. Had to put a set on the 69 Nova SS. Earl

[1969grb]

Earl, What size are the slicks on your Nova?

Grady

[camarojoe]

They're slicks... how much street "driveability" are they really gonna have anyhow? For what you have in mind I think you'd be fine. My dad's Model A hot rod had M/T Pro Street bias plies on it with matching M/T fronts for years. He wore out the fronts and againt my advice he replaced them with a pair of radials. He claims it drives better than it ever did with bias plys all around. I know thats backwards compared to what you want to do, but again, I think you'll be fine, especially if they're brand new. I never had the guts to drive around too much on these oldies, but they sure did look cool. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/437022-DEUCE051.jpg

[1969grb]

Joe, Those slicks look great! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Grady

[Mr. Chevy]

Earl, thats exactly the look I'm shooting for just like on your 69 Nova.. That looks AWESOME!! I'll have the black steelies w/slicks out back and the Cragar SS wheels up front on my 70 Nova SS...

Joe, love your look as well!! Very Cool....

Thanks for the tips/advice fellas...

Rich

[markjohnson]

There's nothing wrong with the Hurst re-caps and they're a great choice for budget-minded people. I'd hate to be admiring a great looking Day-2 street/strip or race car that has "UNIROYAL LAREDO" on the inside sidewall of the slicks when I look under the rear of it. That's the basic casing that Hurst uses on many of it's slicks. That, and I really don't want to risk the paint on a beautiful set of quarter panels, or even the quarter panels themselves of having a cap come off a tire and come whipping around over and over while still partially attached. I'm sure we all see tire caps on the highway all summer long from the big rigs.

[camarojoe]

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Joe, Those slicks look great! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Grady

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Sure they're cool on the car, but you should see what they can do as an end table. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Yeah, i know... I'm not right. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif


http://www.yenko.net/attachments/437027-ebay080.jpg

[1969grb]

I like them better on your car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Grady

[LVCamaro]

will that Nova turn 'em over??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[JRSully]

You obviously have a very forgiving Wife

[Xplantdad]

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will that Nova turn 'em over??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

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LOL...I think so http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[68l30]

Love the coffee table Joe!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Heres a shot of mine...rides as well as expected with 45 yr old M/T S/S aproved slicks....LOL They still get sticky and hook, but I'd never race or cruise on them....pretty much show only.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


Big

[Xplantdad]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Xplantdad]

Here's Dave's 427...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/xplantdad/Cars%20and%20coffee%20Christmas%202009/tn_DSCF4279.jpg

[novadude]

Anyone have any issue w/ getting these Hurst tires to balance? I've heard stories about them taking a LOT of weight...

[PxTx]

I've never touched them, but it could be comming from the fact that retreads in general take more weight.

I can recall using an old snap-on manual spin, electronic tire balancer on some retreads right in the very early 1990's. Each of those took over 8 oz. on one place to balance out!

On the other hand, I would never balance my wrinkle wall slicks. There was too much tire change or growth during a burnout or running down the track for me to beleive that any balancing I did with that old snap-on unit would actually be worth it. I guess maybe a Hunter road-force balancer might be better for those.

Non of my responses are specifically addressing your question though, so I will say this... I have found that balancing is more critical for me on the front wheels than on the back. If you can balance these Hurst wheels with a normal amount of weight, great. If you can't, I would recommend just putting them on the car and seeing if you actually notice them being out of balance.

[Jim Ferron]

Hey Joe, are those Firestone 500's new? repops? or NOS? Just love em!

[PxTx]

I would wager you could probably count on one hand the number of repro items Joe owns and those aren't one of them.

[brent396]

Earl any more pics of your 69 nova love that day 2 look

[camarojoe]

They're real-deal NOS originals. Still pretty pliable too, but I don't know how many 9 grand holeshots they'd survive. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif They handle lamps and coasters just fine though...

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/437127-DEUCE061.jpg


Seems old 14" slicks are alot harder to find than 15"s, and to me the Novas just look better with 14 inchers. I have a cherry pair of 8.20-14 M&H Racemasters too, was thinking of mounting them on a set of Motor Wheel Spyders one of these days.

[mnyenko]

The only other photo of the Nova has 15" Torque Thrusts. The Hurst Cheaters are on 15x7 Pontiac steel wheels. The inside wheel lips were already trimed. L78 4spd buckets console 4.10 12 bolt. Needs a trip to Deuce heaven for a repaint in original fathom green. Earl

[Jim Ferron]

I remember back in the late 70's I used to run those Drag 500's on my 67 GTO at Lebanon Valley Dragway....I have a couple sets of NOS M&H Racemasters myself I bought years and years ago...but would love to put a set of the Drag 500's on 'Russ'

[Schonyenko2]

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The only other photo of the Nova has 15" Torque Thrusts. The Hurst Cheaters are on 15x7 Pontiac steel wheels. The inside wheel lips were already trimed. L78 4spd buckets console 4.10 12 bolt. Needs a trip to Deuce heaven for a repaint in original fathom green. Earl

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I think you've been here before. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif And yep, we can do that.

We tubed the M&H's that we had on the back of Alan's H/O Nova. Some of the people who drive things around here have very little self control. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[GTO_DON]

I just sold a pair of NOS firestone 500's. Just sold some goodyear bluestreaks also. Mike G clean out your pm box. Ive been trying to pm you. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Mr. Chevy]

I just purchased a set of Hurst Slicks P225/75 15, they stand about 28" tall and are about 7-8" wide. These are NOS older ones made in Idaho and not in Oregon where the new re-capped ones are made.. Don't know if this makes a difference or not in tire construction but they were reasonably priced and should look great on the car..

Rich

[mnyenko]

These are the 15" recaps 28" tall 7" wide. Really wakes up the look on this little small block 70 SS. Earl

[PxTx]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/437892-resizes70ss.jpg
How did the balance out? Is that all of the weight at 3-O'clock?

[mnyenko]

They required quite a bit of weight to balance. That is two big weights together at 3 O'clock. Earl

[Salvatore]

Those slicks look great on your cars guys! Those 500's are killer Joe. Wish I still had my set! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Nova Jed]

I'm glad this topic came about. I wanted to put some of those pie cut cheaters on my recent project. May think twice now.

[Salvatore]

Why Jed? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Nova Jed]

I want that DAY2 look for my 69 Nova. E/T Mags, redlines, cheater slicks and past hues. What more do you need? Other then a high winding small block and headers, I have all I need. I have the heart and sole for a high winder! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif 302 crank!

I never considered that the "recap" Hursts could blow apart like a trailer tire. I wouldn't want that to happed to fresh 1/4's and paint. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Mr. Chevy]

I talked to several people who stated that the Hurst slicks have been made as re-capps for many, many years now and they have never heard of them coming apart...

Rich

[Nova Jed]

Ok that's a good thing.