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01-10-2010, 05:09 PM
Fellas -
Truck is on Craislist in Orange Co, CA.
Owner has something that looks like a window sticker that has "Yenko" printed up top - has the VIN, added equipment, price ($7,311.85) and "Identification Number YS 9620." Having a difficult time believing this is a legit document; different fonts, it's not the original; just a color copy, etc. Not able to post the pic, but can e mail it if someone wants to add it.
Pad on the engine (512 block) is stamped "TO 988 LT". Last three of the VIN are 988.
Heads are 842 aluminum dated 5/26/69 and 3/17/69. Intake is a 3963569 dated 2/19/69. Block is a 512; pic I have of the date is not very good - - maybe says "E23 9".
Like everyone else, I am quite skeptical (paperwork does not look good, trim tag color [Turquoise] doesn't match paperwork [Lemans Blue]); lots of things do not make sense. However, figured I would post here just in case it's possible that this is legit.
Text below is from the ad on CL and also some from an e mail from the owner.
This is a 1969 El Camino
The El Camino's current drivetrain is a 1970 Camaro Z28 350 LT1 motor making around 375 hp.
Matched up to a TH350 B&M Street-Strip transmission , nice firm shifts with a 2500 stall converter.
It has a 12 bolt posi-trac with current 3.55 gears (originally 4.11). Power drum brakes
The body is straight and in good overall condition with some minor scratches, dings here and there.
(Please keep in mind, this has been a daily driver)
Interior is stock with newer door panels and headliner.
The seats will need to be reupholstered.
Has a nice set of 16.5 IROC rims with a newer set of Kumho tires.
Now here is the real good stuff...
The original numbers matching drivetrain, which is an L88 427 big block paired with a M-22 4 speed Rock Crusher,
is stored away and could be sold with the El Co. for another reasonable offer, if seriously interested!
Now, here's a little history on this El Camino...
There were only 100 of these cars built with a L72 Corvette engines, but a handful of the El Caminos were
given L88 Corvette engines. Some came with Muncie's, and some with TH400's. This car came with the L88
along with the Muncie 4 speed. I still have the original drive train. The engine and trans. are all 1969 date
coded and numbers matching. Engine is rebuilt with 11 to 1 comp. ratio, instead of the 12.5 to 1 comp.
This is one of the two optioned engines with Aluminum square-port closed-chambered heads.
*Yenko only used L72 engines in there Camaros, Chevelles, and El Caminos, which makes this car extremely rare!
*ALL ORIGINAL NUMBERS MATCHING DRIVETRAIN, WELL WORTH THE INVESTMENT!!*
Have being same owner for almost 15 years with Pink Slip in hand.
The owner is a Retired GM Engineer and was in the racing industry for many years.
For sale as is for $9,000 without original drive train. Will entertain reasonable offers,
If you are highly interested with the original drive train, complete with el camino and drive train, once again, will entertain reasonable offers.
For those of you that may know, this set up can fetch up in the tens of thousands, so with that in mind, please no silly low ball offers.
Thanks & God Bless!
This is from a friend of the owner -
Sorry I don't have a whole lot of free time to be going back and forth with everyone. My father just recently got out of hospital and is under my care, so that takes most of my "free time". What ever I can do, I can do.
I spoke to Steve.. ok .. here's a little history... listen everyone...
He purchased this El Co off of Hemmings classified ad in the 90's. When the car was purchased from Oklahoma, he looked under the hood and there was the 427 4 speed combo. The front bumper was missing, the hood and left fender were damaged, hence the 68' front bumper and hood being replaced.
The following is from an email Steve sent me:
"I am the owner of the car. First off let me tell you that too many people have got involved on the internet saying things about the car,that they did not know what they were talking about.You know how a rumor builds on itself. I bought the car over 15 years ago from Hemmings Motor News. I did not expect to find what I found. It had a Yenko paper that was rotting away on the front seat. (I photocopied it before it fell apart) The only thing that I questioned was the YS#. This number was for a 69 Yenko Camaro. Since I was not the original owner, I do not know if they used the same number 2 times. I do know that the engine was a 12.5 to 1 427 L88. It was coupled up to a muncie 4spd. The trans has the cars Vin # stamped on the back. I rebuilt the eng putting 11 to 1 pistons. The engine has all the 69 numbers, and the stamping on the front has the last numbers of the cars vin # along with the Code LT. This El Camino was never a Auto from the factory. Factory dealers like Dana, Nickey, Baldwin Motion,and Yenko, ordered cars from the factory and made the engine and trans swap.
Did you know not all the Camaros and Chevelles built by Yenko came from the factory with a Big Block?
The car now has a 70 LT1 Z28 eng and B&M trans. I put the 350 TH because it is the same length as the Muncie. So nothing has been altered. Still has the 2 pedals on the floor. I also changed the rear end ratio to 3.55 from the original 4.11. This car came with no Power Windows. Radio,PS, the only thing that is strange is, it has power Front Drum Brakes. The car had all the Yenko stripping but was in bad shape. Car was Lemans Blue, but the cowl tag says Turquiose.This does not surprise me because over the years, I saw new cars in the paint shop with color tags that did not match. After reading this if you are truly interested let me know and I will supply you with pictures of the L88 & 4Spd, and more of the car."
Steve W.
About Steve W:
A Respected Vietnam Veteran, retired 30+ yrs GM Engineer, and as well a retired 1980's 1/4 mile Pro Gas / Super Comp, Comp Eliminator and Pro Mod race car driver. Friend to Richard Iskenderian, Murt Littlefield, Mike Thermos, former partner to Thunder Racing Co.
Hopefully this information may clarify any questions you may have.
For the serious inquiries, please allow time to get back to email inquiries.
Truck is on Craislist in Orange Co, CA.
Owner has something that looks like a window sticker that has "Yenko" printed up top - has the VIN, added equipment, price ($7,311.85) and "Identification Number YS 9620." Having a difficult time believing this is a legit document; different fonts, it's not the original; just a color copy, etc. Not able to post the pic, but can e mail it if someone wants to add it.
Pad on the engine (512 block) is stamped "TO 988 LT". Last three of the VIN are 988.
Heads are 842 aluminum dated 5/26/69 and 3/17/69. Intake is a 3963569 dated 2/19/69. Block is a 512; pic I have of the date is not very good - - maybe says "E23 9".
Like everyone else, I am quite skeptical (paperwork does not look good, trim tag color [Turquoise] doesn't match paperwork [Lemans Blue]); lots of things do not make sense. However, figured I would post here just in case it's possible that this is legit.
Text below is from the ad on CL and also some from an e mail from the owner.
This is a 1969 El Camino
The El Camino's current drivetrain is a 1970 Camaro Z28 350 LT1 motor making around 375 hp.
Matched up to a TH350 B&M Street-Strip transmission , nice firm shifts with a 2500 stall converter.
It has a 12 bolt posi-trac with current 3.55 gears (originally 4.11). Power drum brakes
The body is straight and in good overall condition with some minor scratches, dings here and there.
(Please keep in mind, this has been a daily driver)
Interior is stock with newer door panels and headliner.
The seats will need to be reupholstered.
Has a nice set of 16.5 IROC rims with a newer set of Kumho tires.
Now here is the real good stuff...
The original numbers matching drivetrain, which is an L88 427 big block paired with a M-22 4 speed Rock Crusher,
is stored away and could be sold with the El Co. for another reasonable offer, if seriously interested!
Now, here's a little history on this El Camino...
There were only 100 of these cars built with a L72 Corvette engines, but a handful of the El Caminos were
given L88 Corvette engines. Some came with Muncie's, and some with TH400's. This car came with the L88
along with the Muncie 4 speed. I still have the original drive train. The engine and trans. are all 1969 date
coded and numbers matching. Engine is rebuilt with 11 to 1 comp. ratio, instead of the 12.5 to 1 comp.
This is one of the two optioned engines with Aluminum square-port closed-chambered heads.
*Yenko only used L72 engines in there Camaros, Chevelles, and El Caminos, which makes this car extremely rare!
*ALL ORIGINAL NUMBERS MATCHING DRIVETRAIN, WELL WORTH THE INVESTMENT!!*
Have being same owner for almost 15 years with Pink Slip in hand.
The owner is a Retired GM Engineer and was in the racing industry for many years.
For sale as is for $9,000 without original drive train. Will entertain reasonable offers,
If you are highly interested with the original drive train, complete with el camino and drive train, once again, will entertain reasonable offers.
For those of you that may know, this set up can fetch up in the tens of thousands, so with that in mind, please no silly low ball offers.
Thanks & God Bless!
This is from a friend of the owner -
Sorry I don't have a whole lot of free time to be going back and forth with everyone. My father just recently got out of hospital and is under my care, so that takes most of my "free time". What ever I can do, I can do.
I spoke to Steve.. ok .. here's a little history... listen everyone...
He purchased this El Co off of Hemmings classified ad in the 90's. When the car was purchased from Oklahoma, he looked under the hood and there was the 427 4 speed combo. The front bumper was missing, the hood and left fender were damaged, hence the 68' front bumper and hood being replaced.
The following is from an email Steve sent me:
"I am the owner of the car. First off let me tell you that too many people have got involved on the internet saying things about the car,that they did not know what they were talking about.You know how a rumor builds on itself. I bought the car over 15 years ago from Hemmings Motor News. I did not expect to find what I found. It had a Yenko paper that was rotting away on the front seat. (I photocopied it before it fell apart) The only thing that I questioned was the YS#. This number was for a 69 Yenko Camaro. Since I was not the original owner, I do not know if they used the same number 2 times. I do know that the engine was a 12.5 to 1 427 L88. It was coupled up to a muncie 4spd. The trans has the cars Vin # stamped on the back. I rebuilt the eng putting 11 to 1 pistons. The engine has all the 69 numbers, and the stamping on the front has the last numbers of the cars vin # along with the Code LT. This El Camino was never a Auto from the factory. Factory dealers like Dana, Nickey, Baldwin Motion,and Yenko, ordered cars from the factory and made the engine and trans swap.
Did you know not all the Camaros and Chevelles built by Yenko came from the factory with a Big Block?
The car now has a 70 LT1 Z28 eng and B&M trans. I put the 350 TH because it is the same length as the Muncie. So nothing has been altered. Still has the 2 pedals on the floor. I also changed the rear end ratio to 3.55 from the original 4.11. This car came with no Power Windows. Radio,PS, the only thing that is strange is, it has power Front Drum Brakes. The car had all the Yenko stripping but was in bad shape. Car was Lemans Blue, but the cowl tag says Turquiose.This does not surprise me because over the years, I saw new cars in the paint shop with color tags that did not match. After reading this if you are truly interested let me know and I will supply you with pictures of the L88 & 4Spd, and more of the car."
Steve W.
About Steve W:
A Respected Vietnam Veteran, retired 30+ yrs GM Engineer, and as well a retired 1980's 1/4 mile Pro Gas / Super Comp, Comp Eliminator and Pro Mod race car driver. Friend to Richard Iskenderian, Murt Littlefield, Mike Thermos, former partner to Thunder Racing Co.
Hopefully this information may clarify any questions you may have.
For the serious inquiries, please allow time to get back to email inquiries.