70 Baldwin Motion Motor Find & much more

[bdplvx]

I posted this yesterdsay in the general discussion forum and feel I need to talk personally with an "expert" on Baldwin cars. Today I spoke to the son of the original owner who purchased the car from Baldwin Motion Chevrolet in 1970. The car was fully documented, which includes the POP, dealer invoice, Baldwin stage II paperwork, etc, etc. The car started out as an LS6 chevelle and the motor was a crate CE stamped replacement, which is completely documented on the paperwork. The car was in an accident and totalled. Every piece that was salvageable was saved including all the emblems, interior, signed Baldwin dash plate, etc. etc. etc.

I am interested in personally speaking with someone who has a passion for Baldwin cars as I do. My goal is to make a tribute car to the previous owner (who was well known in the supercar industry) by putting the original Baldwin motor in a 70 chevelle ss and making it my own supercar.

I was somewhat hesitant about posting my find as I am not interested in a great debate over what I found and have. I know what it is as the original inked/stamped paperwork tells me so. Just want someone to help and advise based on personal experience in the supercar world.

Thanks in advance.

My post from yesterday.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/441929/an/0/page/0#Post441929

[iluv69s]

The same 'motion experts' that see this thread would also see the thread where it was..but, this is a better place anyway.

In your original post You stated that you have no paperwork on the motor. And you asked for help in identifying what you have. But apparently, you do have paperwork documenting exactly what you have. So now you seem very sure about what you have and do not want anyone's opinion on what they think you have. And now You are asking for help in building a Motion clone??? With all due respect, is this what you are asking?

[Born30YrsLate]

Not familiar with "Stage II"...I only know of the PHASE III...I would be curious to know what was involved in the Stage II package.

[Tarrytown SS427s]

Can you post pictures of the documentation? That would be really cool to see!
Steve

[P.J.]

I think that you have a great find. maybe we all can learn
from your documentation,
PJ

[iluv69s]

I believe that Joel's packages changed throughout the years from the late 69s into some of the conversions he did later in the 70's. Just from a few cars that I have seen. But appaently the Phase III cars were the most bad-ass !!! But I'm sure a 70 Phase II motor had to be pretty awesome since the factory LS-6 had 450 HP stock...Does it have a horsepower rating on the paperwork?

So have you had any luck in your search for a donor car to put your cool find into ? There are people on this site that might know where to find a nice body. I'd love to see/hear that motor fire up again..just knowing it was built by Motion...I never saw a '70' Chevelle Motion car...What else did the car get? Did it have sidepipes?? Good Luck with it !!!

[PxTx]

Not saying there couldn't be one, but Joel has said you either had a regular Motion car or the mods went straight to Phase III. There was no in-between. No Phase I or Phase II.

I think there is a green one in the Otis Chandler book.

[Mr70]

There was.

[iluv69s]

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Not saying there couldn't be one, but Joel has said you either had a regular Motion car or the mods went straight to Phase III. There was no in-between. No Phase I or Phase II.

I think there is a green one in the Otis Chandler book.

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I believe I remember seeing Motion advertising for different phase motor set-ups somewhere...with separate prices.....

But I know of a 70 Camaro that was Phase III converted in 1976 that did not have the same parts on it that some of the earlier Phase III cars had. Unfortunately I do not have a copy , but I did see the actual Motion reciepts and list of parts. It did not have the same intake and 3 barrel carb that many of the earlier cars had. It had typical finned aluminum Motion valve covers, but no Motion emblems on them. This is why I believe that his packages changed somewhat throughout the years with technology/ parts availabilty, etc.

[RPO LS7]

http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306452

[iluv69s]

so apparently he has no paperwork for the motor and cannot get it....?? that is a real bummer http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[PxTx]

Bummer is he's blaming other people form not being able to produce paperwork which I was skeptical ever existed. Seems like an easy way out.

[x Baldwin Motion]

Sounds like....well, now it sounds like a motor for sale that has a story. Sad about those docs, maybe they will show up with a car attached. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[bdplvx]

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http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306452

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As I noted on the chevelle forum it may just be a superbowl day. We'll see.

[bdplvx]

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Bummer is he's blaming other people form not being able to produce paperwork which I was skeptical ever existed. Seems like an easy way out.

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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif We will see in the end heh? I hope to rub it in your face trust me......