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mfchassisworks
02-18-2010, 03:46 AM
Not to beat the dead horse, but I couldn't find that old thread regarding that ONE car. I am thinking of building a 70 Camaro L78 car for FAST/SUPERCARS, to match my original one. I want to run an automatic. Upon speaking with Terry Pennington about the authenticity of such a car. He said I needed to provide some proof. Which, other than that one thread and the 5K bet, I haven't found anything. What was the outcome?

Thanks

Andrew Libbey
1970 Camaro SS RS L78 Cortez/saddle
1970 Camaro SS396 10.5 tire

Jeff H
02-18-2010, 04:03 AM
I believe that Ed(?) has some original Scuncio paperwork showing a 1970 L78 TH400 Camaro as well.

02-18-2010, 04:03 AM
Hi Andrew...

It's in the current NHRA Classification Guide which means it's legal for both Stock and Super Stock in NHRA land. 402-375 HP with TH is factored to 395 HP with stock heads. Shipping weight of 3511 pounds, using the NHRA system of factor of 8.89 X factored HP of 395. Anyway, for what its worth, they accept it.

Hope this helps.

Wayne ('Sled)

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Mr70
02-18-2010, 04:03 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...h=true#Post6935 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=UBB1&Number=6935&Searchpa ge=1&Main=6935&Words=sheet+Charley+Lillard&topic=& Search=true#Post6935)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/219246-jackwhtext.jpg

WILMASBOYL78
02-18-2010, 04:34 AM
Charley is calling Ken now...they will have this question resolved shortly http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Mr70
02-18-2010, 04:37 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/219247-jackwhteng.jpg

Mr70
02-18-2010, 04:37 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/Rick_Peters/219248-jackwhtint.jpg

Charley Lillard
02-18-2010, 05:03 AM
There is no further news on the white one pictured. The owner has been accused of faking the car enough by internet experts that he has no further interest in proving it is real. I know it is real. The Sacramento Camaro club people know it is real. he has the build sheet and has shown it to club members. I'll up my bet to 10,000.00 that the car and paperwork are real. Jack knows as much about 70 Camaro's as anyone.

mfchassisworks
02-18-2010, 06:28 AM
Thanks for the help guys! Its situations like this that make this site is awesome! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/youguysrock.gif I have forward a link to this to Terry, I will let you know the outcome.

Andrew Libbey
1970 Camaro SS RS L78 Cortez/saddle
1970 Camaro SS396 10.5 tire

70-SS/RS-L78
02-21-2010, 02:45 AM
That’s weird, an automatic deluxe interior 375 car with a wood grain console plate.
The 4 speed 375 cars had a black plate with deluxe interior. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Charley Lillard
02-21-2010, 03:19 AM
Ignore the interior. Jack has changed the color and interior over the years. It was even his tow vehicle to tow one of his other 70's to the drags....

70 Forest Green Zee
02-21-2010, 04:12 AM
Those don't look like 1970 seats in that pic

CamarosRus
02-21-2010, 06:34 AM
Nobody (especially me) is going to win a $10K pixxing contest with Charley.

That White car has too many misc issues. To each there own, but I will never believe it is a born with G.M. L-78/M-40 until Mike Steitz and/or Jack Seymour inspect car on a lift.

as Frank says...."What do I know, I didnt write a book"

DarrenX33
02-21-2010, 07:49 AM
With all those "misc issues" I would think that's 10k in the bank for you Chuck. Sounds like a no brainer to me based on your observations. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

Charley Lillard
02-21-2010, 07:55 AM
Chuck...I'll even give you 2-1 odds....

ssl78396
02-21-2010, 09:15 AM
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Chuck...I'll even give you 2-1 odds....

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There it is Boyz..Roll the dice all this talk about what it's not..and what no one step'n up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif NOT http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Lynn
02-21-2010, 09:40 AM
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Chuck...I'll even give you 2-1 odds....

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There it is Boyz..Roll the dice all this talk about what it's not..and what no one step'n up http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif NOT http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

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Is that a country song???

al8apex
02-21-2010, 10:40 AM
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Those don't look like 1970 seats in that pic

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they look like 70 deluxe seats with different inserts to me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

sYc
02-21-2010, 05:24 PM
Hum...2-1 odds, sounds like it's put up or shut up time.

PeteLeathersac
02-21-2010, 07:01 PM
Was there a unique fan shroud necessary for the `70 L78-M40 combo and something we discussed in a past thread here?.

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- Pete

Kim_Howie
02-21-2010, 07:37 PM
All 375 had that shrould. My Gibb car had one. Been trying to buy one for YEARS. NO LUCK.

mfchassisworks
06-12-2010, 12:36 AM
Thanks to everyone who provided information on this subject. The 70 L78 Auto is approved. I received this from Supercars and it is also posted on their forum.

http://www.supercarraces.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=673

Nothing from FAST yet.

SUPERCARS APPROVAL

Most of the MuscleCars raced are common models with multiple examples readily available for an enthusiast to look over and pick as the musclecar they want to race in the SuperCar ShootOut Series. Some models were produced in limited numbers for public use and are not so common. For this reason we allow our racers, current and future to show proof through research of a MuscleCars existence. Any Racer can present a MuscleCar to the board for approval to compete in the SuperCar ShootOut Series.

We have been asked to look over documentation, production numbers and printed materials for approval to build and compete a 1970 Chevrolet Camaro SS396 L78 equipped with an automatic transmission in the SuperCar ShootOut Series. The builder of said model has brought forward documentation to prove production of said model. Through our research and the research of said builder, we hereby acknowledge that the SuperCar Rules Committee is satisfied that Chevrolet has built one or more examples of said model for sale to the general public. Let it be known it is the builders responsibility to continue to research production information and numbers to present to SuperCars if continued documentation is needed in the future. As of the writing of this letter of approval, we are satisfied with the documentation presented to SuperCars to allow the build of said 1970 Chevrolet Camaro SS396 L78 Automatic for competition in the SuperCar ShootOut Series.

The Approved MuscleCar will be allowed to compete thirty days after review of said letter by our racers through the SuperCar ShootOut Series Forum. All Racers may feel free to comment, question or inquire about the legality of said model. All comments questions or inquiries need to be addressed to the Rules Committee in the form of an E-Mail, ([email protected]) or Private Message to SuperCar Races Member Ralph Barbagallo. All inquires will be reviewed by the Rules Committee and a response will be sent to the inquirer within 7 days.

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American MuscleCar Racing
Ralph Barbagallo
Sharleen Barbagallo
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mockingbird812
06-12-2010, 02:53 AM
Congratulations Andrew (on the said approval as noted in the said letter in the said posting)!!!!

Nice work! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif