Red line radial versus bias ply

[CDNL-78]

Wanna give my nova the original look with the steel wheels and dog dish caps. Having a hard time deciding what to get though. Radial are good for drivablity around town, but I still would like the "original" look of the E70-14 red line bias. But I have been told there really only good for trailer queens, and show cars. I will not be trailering my car at all, just local cruising and shows within a hour of home, with mostly city/town driving, and minimal highway miles. Thanks in advance for ALL your opions or suggestions on my delema. Darcy

[67 Nova Boy]

I have the F-70 Red Lines on my 67 SS and they have their moments!! LOL They tend to get into ridges in the road and follow them so you must be alert! They are ok on the highway. Mine are the bias ones. Driven every where... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[quik9r]

I can tell you the bias ply hooks alot better at the track. Very good 60 ft times on a pure stock LS6 chevelle.
Kevin

[larry_csa]

I have Coker red line Bias plys on my 67. When they wear out I will go with, Red Line Radials. The red line Bias ply tires I have are the hardest things to drive i have ever had. They follow every groove in the road and will dart left or right with the least little bump. A friend of mine put a set of the red line radial on his 66 vett. they looked good a drove good. I THINK "black diamond tire"
Larry

[grantprix]

I like the BF Goodrich Silvertown Radials, same tire & tread as the T/A with a nice redline look.

Grant

[XXXGoldL34M20]

i have had bias ply tires since 1984 on many of my cars.
nice soft ride and they sound great when you burn out.
they hook good too.
just keep your hand on the wheel when your on the highway as the ridges on the road wants to shift the steering sometimes but no big deal.
IMO nothing looks as nice on a vintage car than original style tires http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[camarojoe]

I personally hate radials on old cars. I think the negative comments of bias ply tires must have something to do with the proper alignment and condition of the suspension bushings and hardware, because I always hear horror stories about using them on older cars for street driving. I do it all summer (remember summer?) and haven't really had any problems. Last year I put over 5000 miles on a '32 highboy with skinny bias plys and it always tracked down the road straight as an arrow and smooth as silk.

A few years ago I had G70-14 redline Firestones on a '69 El Camino and experienced a little of the "tracking/wandering" issues mentioned above, but never enough that I'd have swapped to radials. I drove it alot too.

I've actually found that driving in heavy rain at highway speeds to be the only time bias ply tires ever make me a little nervous. The drive home from Columbus last year was in the rain the entire way, and my bias plies did seem to like to hydroplane a bit easier than my buddies' radials...but if you're aware of this and don't drive like an idiot, it's not really a big deal.

[Mr. Chevy]

Radials do ride nice and handle better, but there is nothing like the look of a bias ply tire on these old cars.. I guess you kind of sacrifice the look and style for the ride..

My buddy drove his 66 Chevelle on the Hot Rod Power Tour a couple of years back from Cleveland, Oh. to Kalamazoo, Michigan on bias plys and he said the drive was fine except for driving in the rain like Joe stated above. He said the car got a little "squirrely" on the road and he had to really take it slow...

Rich

[WILMASBOYL78]

We have a mixture of both bias-ply and radials on our cars(not on the same car http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif)...there is no doubt to me that the radials handle better and are safer at highway speeds. That said, I still think the bias-plys are fine for local cruises and shorter trips. It is important that your suspension components be in good shape....any problems will be magnified by the bias-ply tires. We use the BFG Silvertown redline radials, Firestone Indy 500's and the Diamondback Classics redlines..all quality products with no issues at all.

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[YenkoYS-199Stinger]

I am glad someone asked this question as I have been pondering the same. Two of the Corvairs I am presently working on are Aztec Bronze and I have 2 sets of original 14x7 Minilites. I have been thinking that between the Aztec Bronze, the silver Minilites and the Red Lines the cars would look great. Maybe I will put the radials on the one that lara would possibly drive and bias on the one that I would be the only driver on.

Thanks for the insight guys.

[Tarrytown SS427s]

I would never put radials on an old car. I think it ruins the look and besides, I'm in it for an authentic experience. If I want to drive something with perfect handling and road manners I'll drive a newer car. I feel that the old vehicles and suspensions were designed to work best with the bias ply tires because that is all they had back then. I've experienced the tracking a few times, but once you drive on them enough it becomes a sensation you get used to and you expect to feel. I've never had a situation where the control of the car was put in jeopardy. We've been well over 100 with the G70-15 wide ovals in my dad's 68 Z24, and the car took on the road like a champ! I think we have about 13000 miles on the current set and they still look sweet. I just wish the red stripe was a little brighter.

[SmallHurst]

I ran radials on my car for 8 years and put over 20000 miles on the car doing it. I now have the Polyglas on the car and I would not change it for the world!!!! Just like grapping the thin steering wheel, it is an attention getter! Our cars were all developed and designed with Bias ply in mind. I understand that radials might have better road manners, but I will tell you that the Polys today still have to live up to DOT testing that is far beyond you and I normally push out cars. I have a good friend that is putting more Polyglas on his car after he wore out a set driving across the country and visiting several drag strips. He and his family drove there '69 Hurst/Olds from Chicago to the Grand Canyon without so much as a hiccup! Do what you want, but I still believe that the Biasplys will do very well with what you want to do!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[1railman]

Radials ruin it for me. I see a car with radials and most times I keep walking. I agree with everything Camaro joe said. I have always run bias on my cars and would not have it any other way.

[69hurstSC]

Running the Redline Radials from Coker on my Road Runner and love em.

[black69]

I really like the G60 15 polyglass goodyears on my camaro and mopar ebody, have no issues with them, they are just fun. I plan to put H60's on the back (very hard to find, but did, it should help even more). F70-14s should be a safe size on such a light car. Radials kill the looks of an old car for me, I keep walking too when I see them on a nice car. It's just wrong.

[67 Nova Boy]

Take a look at this fine looking tire! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

G70-14 Firestone Red line

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/busbymoran/IM001203.jpg

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[69Tom]

Now you guys have me thinking about getting bias-plys for my Bel Air. I too have always been a bias-ply supporter on vintage cars (think it looks better as well). However, because I wanted blackwalls and I plan on driving it a ton, I didn't think I should bother with the bias. But maybe I should?

Hmmm.....and I think I'd probably go for the G70-15s too....

[1969l78]

When I got my nova it had radials and just did not look right. I bought the cooker bias ply red lines and car looks so much better. Drives a tad diffrent but looks great.

[Nasblu]

I just think radials look out of place on old cars. I dont care if radials ride/drive better. They had bias plys when they were new and thats the only way to go in my book!!!

[SSJunkie68-69]

I run bias ply red lines on my 68 L34 Rag top and they look great and perform better than I expected. Ruts in the road can be a problem but on new asphalt they are great. Don't drive in the rain.

Get a lot of comments on how original they make the car and the red lines compliment the body color of Matador Red~

[TDW]

What it all depends on how bad the roads are. In Michigan, we have some of the worst roads in the Country. I drove the 68 Z28 for a couple of years with Goodyear bias tires. I then tried some BF goodrich radials. The difference was night and day. I now run radials on all my cars.

[Johnny Horsepower]

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I would never put radials on an old car. I think it ruins the look and besides, I'm in it for an authentic experience. If I want to drive something with perfect handling and road manners I'll drive a newer car. I feel that the old vehicles and suspensions were designed to work best with the bias ply tires because that is all they had back then. I've experienced the tracking a few times, but once you drive on them enough it becomes a sensation you get used to and you expect to feel. I've never had a situation where the control of the car was put in jeopardy. We've been well over 100 with the G70-15 wide ovals in my dad's 68 Z24, and the car took on the road like a champ! I think we have about 13000 miles on the current set and they still look sweet. I just wish the red stripe was a little brighter.

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what he said http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[XXXGoldL34M20]

When i bought my 1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS6 just this past September the car had the B.F. Goodrich TA Radials.
I took them of in less than a month as i could not stand the look of modern day tires.to me it ruined what the car was all about "originality" so i bought the Goodyear Poly-Glas Tires in a hurry. after i put them on i said to myself "now that's the look i like" The ride is not bad at all. I am like other people here, if a car is nicely restored to original and you put Radials on that car it looks like Crap and i just keep walking to next car. Original tires really sets your car apart from all the other modified cars at a cruise.

[Xplantdad]

Nice Camaro Tom....I think it needs to be a Members ride?

[hvychev]

Driving a muscle car with radials is like ------- with a condom on. You just don't get the full experience! Lewd analogies aside, I drove/raced my 70 LS5 Chevelle for 13,000 with Wide Ovals, my Yenko Deuce for about 2000-3000 miles also with Wide Ovals, and my 70 396 Chevelle for also about 3,000-4000 miles with Goodyear bias plys. NEVER had a problem. The car was engineered to have bias ply tires so that is the way it should be driven. People who say otherwise must not be truly driving the car the way it should be. If you want a nice smooth ride, then drive a Lexus.

[TDW]

OK, whatever.

[CDNL-78]

Looks the verdic is out http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. I'II be order some bias ply red lines from coker when I get back home. For the next question, would you go with the E70-14(original size), or go for the next size up, which would be F70-14 I believe ?? Fill in the wheel wells a bit, or what do you all think. Thanks guys for all the opions, I value ur time. Springs coming soon, can't wait to get out there and listen to the rumble again. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[DarrenX33]

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Driving a muscle car with radials is like ------- with a condom on. You just don't get the full experience! Lewd analogies aside, I drove/raced my 70 LS5 Chevelle for 13,000 with Wide Ovals, my Yenko Deuce for about 2000-3000 miles also with Wide Ovals, and my 70 396 Chevelle for also about 3,000-4000 miles with Goodyear bias plys. NEVER had a problem. The car was engineered to have bias ply tires so that is the way it should be driven. People who say otherwise must not be truly driving the car the way it should be. If you want a nice smooth ride, then drive a Lexus.

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If that's truly the case doesn't that throw the whole "day 2" (tires, carbs, traction bars, valve covers with breathers and etc) concept out the window? Those mods and more deviated from how the car was originally engineered. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[1969l78]

Original for me http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[camarojoe]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/447314-tires.JPG

Zero to Hero! What a difference.

[hvychev]

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Driving a muscle car with radials is like ------- with a condom on. You just don't get the full experience! Lewd analogies aside, I drove/raced my 70 LS5 Chevelle for 13,000 with Wide Ovals, my Yenko Deuce for about 2000-3000 miles also with Wide Ovals, and my 70 396 Chevelle for also about 3,000-4000 miles with Goodyear bias plys. NEVER had a problem. The car was engineered to have bias ply tires so that is the way it should be driven. People who say otherwise must not be truly driving the car the way it should be. If you want a nice smooth ride, then drive a Lexus.

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If that's truly the case doesn't that throw the whole "day 2" (tires, carbs, traction bars, valve covers with breathers and etc) concept out the window? Those mods and more deviated from how the car was originally engineered. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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Maybe Darren. Maybe the way I said it as, being engineered that way, was not exactly the way I was thinking about it. For me personally when I drove my muscle cars I wanted the "full experience." I had most of my cars day 2'ed and would NEVER use any sort of modern style equipment. The rims, tires, valve covers, breathers, basically everything you mentioned, I had day 2 parts from that exact era. When I say "that is the way the car was engineered," I mean that the car was engineered with those tires in mind and approved by the federal government for road use. If they are "not safe" or "squirrely" then maybe they would not be approved for use now of days. Hell, dinosaurs like the Mayor of Donahue and Cumby drove them like that when they were new, in the snow, etc., and had minimal problems I would imagine, as their cars are still with them. Millions of people drove cars with bias ply tires on them back in the day and many of those people are still here to tell us about it.

[ORIGLS6]

Watch it punk. I know where you live. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[mockingbird812]

Hey DC - 'believe that was compliment! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[napa68]

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Driving a muscle car with radials is like ------- with a condom on. You just don't get the full experience!

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[68427imp]

Bias-ply all the way for me.I have a 68 Impala with G70-15 Wide-Ovals,a 66 Impala with G78-15 blackwalls and a 65 Impala with L60-15 Mickey Thompson "I" gumballs on all four corners!No handling issues at all as long as your front end is aligned...

[Xplantdad]

I like my raidials...thank you very much!

But then again...I drive my car...a lot! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[CDNL-78]

Thanks for the input everyone, I have ordered my bias redlined from a member from this site. So now the car will have the "original" look that I have been looking for. I don't recall every driving a car with bias before, so I'II be two hands on the wheel til I get use to them. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[camarojoe]

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Thanks for the input everyone, I have ordered my bias redlined from a member from this site. So now the car will have the "original" look that I have been looking for. I don't recall every driving a car with bias before, so I'II be two hands on the wheel til I get use to them. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Good choice! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[StealthBird]

Another thing radials provide is a much softer ride. Not a big deal if yer just putting around once a year to the local cruise or car show, but radials make a big difference if you actually drive your car.

Put a radial on the front right of the car, and a bias ply on the front left (ummm....don't drive it, this is a static demonstration http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ), then bounce on each fender. It's night and day. The radial acts like a cushion, the bias ply is hard as a rock. There's no sidewall flex at all with a bias ply.

Obviously, if the look is more important than the performance or the drivability, the bias ply is the way to go. I've put a few thousand miles on my F70 Firestone Wide Ovals, but with the way the roads the way they are around here, you have to grab the steering wheel firmly at all times, and be prepared for a bone jarring ride. Bias plies are a great way to check for interior squeaks and rattles. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Canuck]

As the replys indicate,it depends on how much you drive. My Chrysler 300F gets used a fair amount by myself and my wife. It has Coker Radials on it. I would not consider using bias ply on this car because of its weight. My 66 442 has Firestone 775 14,original look and size. I am the only one who drives it and that is not a lot,some cruise nights and some weekend exercise. I used to only put Bias ply on for shows,but I realized how little I was using some of my cars and left the bias plys on for the past two years. My 71 442's have original Uniroyal Tiger Paws and Original G70-14 Polyglass. If these cars were being used more than the 4-5 mile jaunt to cruise gatherings, I would purchase new repop bias ply. I will change over to radial for longer use only because of the fact my bias plys for these cars are NOS.

Paul

[Chevy454]

[ QUOTE ]
Originally posted by StealthBird:

Another thing radials provide is a much softer ride. Not a big deal if yer just putting around once a year to the local cruise or car show, but radials make a big difference if you actually drive your car.

Put a radial on the front right of the car, and a bias ply on the front left (ummm....don't drive it, this is a static demonstration http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ), then bounce on each fender. It's night and day. The radial acts like a cushion, the bias ply is hard as a rock. There's no sidewall flex at all with a bias ply.


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Hey Mike, check out these non-flexing sidewalls... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/Ralph1.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/[email protected]

[mockingbird812]

Nice squat!!! Particularly the TA. Rob - what pressures are those guys running to get the "wrinkle" and presumably better bite?

Thanks!

[SmallHurst]

They are running pressures down to 15-18 PSI to try and get the wrinkle. THIS IS NOT WHAT THESE TIRES DO!!! This will destroy the integrity of these tires in short order. Short term gain, long term loss!!!

[67 Nova Boy]

Now..."Thats" What I'm talking about!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif Will the Red Lines do that at that Pressure?
Very nice! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif I think I smell Racing Gas.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[wheelhop]

I'm going with the diamond back red line radials on my next project. I've used both (bias ply and radials) on my chevelle and feel the radials are far superior for drivability. If you want originality, then go back to the wooden wheels we used on our wagons back in the wild west! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[StealthBird]

Well, I was talking about bouncing on the fender, and you'll see the bias ply sidewall does not flex verses the cushioning/flexing occurs with a radial. But the best thing is that we got a few cool pictures from this debate. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I've run my bias plies for a few months in the summer, and they're real teeth rattlers compared to the radials. As for ruts in the road, I've had the wheel yanked out of my hand a couple times when I've hit uneven pavement. Those spots in the road always seem to occur within the shadows of trees, you know? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[CDNL-78]

Hey Rob
Kwool pictures there, post somemore if you got them. I won't be doing that with the Nova, however, there maybe a slight wrinkle in my wifes face when I tell her how much I paid for them http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I may have to get a picture of that. They should be here by the end of this week according to UPS tracking. Still gotta wait for the street sweeper to clean up the roads before I get it out though.

[camarojoe]

Don't mind the naysayers... you'll be fine, your car will look like it's supposed to, and i think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how your car drives with bias plies. Many here have put 1000's of trouble-free miles on them without any problems. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[427TJ]

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For the next question, would you go with the E70-14(original size), or go for the next size up, which would be F70-14 I believe ?? Fill in the wheel wells a bit, or what do you all think.

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I went with the F70x14 Coker redlines for my '67 RS/SS 396 Camaro. The Ds, although the original size, are too small for my tastes and the Fs do fill-out the wheel arches much better. Yes, the car hunts around on grooved roadways but they did that in 1967 too. My only gripe with my Cokers, bought in 2002, is that they don't clean and shine as easily as other tires. I use the Bleche-White and Armor-All method (the ONLY thing I use A-All on is tires) and they look good but over the winter they tend to leech-out whatever is in the tire compound and the sidewalls get 'gray,' for lack of a better description. There are threads on here as to how to clean/care for Cokers if you do a search. Lastly, the look of the belted tire cannot be beat, especially on a stock/stock-look car.

[SmallHurst]

To remove the gray from your tires (as well as some stains from your white/red stripe, RWL) you can use a little lacquer thinner on a rag and sparingly wipe the tires down. It will bring them back to black in no time and does not leave a shine. It is the A-All that it graying up on the tires. Just remove it and start over. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[m22mike]

Rusty
Even enamel reducer, mineral spirts, grill lighter fluid, etc. will work too. Does wonders on the white letters and redlines too. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
I hate Armor all http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[BUIZILLA]

I used to run 44-45# in my redlines and I could darn near full throttle dead hook it... they didn't even begin to hook until 40#'s

[StealthBird]

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To remove the gray from your tires (as well as some stains from your white/red stripe, RWL) you can use a little lacquer thinner on a rag and sparingly wipe the tires down. It will bring them back to black in no time and does not leave a shine. It is the A-All that it graying up on the tires. Just remove it and start over. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

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After you wipe them down with a little lacquer thinner to get them clean, do you put anything on the tire, or just leave them a natural flat black rubber? Does Bleach-White work for removing the "gray" film, or will that cause the film to reappear?

Strange, but I found that the tires look fine over the winter, then the first time I drive the car in the Spring, all 4 tires have the gray film (I use Formula 2000, satin). Must be the heat generated in the tires, after driving a few miles, that brings the product (Armor All, etc.,) up to the top?

[olredalert]

-----Mike,,,I have found that the film you talk about is a form of wax. Probably used so that the tire will pop out of the mold or something. I have been using a heat gun and towl on my sidewalls for years. Once the temperature is high enough to liquify the wax I just rub it off with a clean towel. The wax tends to leach right out thru the rubber. You will see the tire actually get really shiny as the wax turns to liquid. At no time is the rubber hot enough to damage the integrity of the tire. Try it as once the wax is gone you will have a gorgeous tire........Bill S

['69Novajoe]

I know they aren't bias-ply, but if you squint real hard.....
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4764/wheelandtireandlatterba.jpg

[427TJ]

Okay, I was going to buy a set of Diamondback radials (white pinstripe) for the 15x6 original Torq Thrust "sport wheels" for my Camaro but now you guys have convinced me to go with belted F70s. Thanks for the technique for getting the wax mold-release (or ?) agent out of the tires and I'll throw-away my remaining bottle of A-All.

Question: For an F70x15 pinstripe whitewall, Coker or Universal Vintage Tire? I have Cokers now but are the UVT tires easier to clean or better/worse in any way than Cokers? My only complaint with my Cokers is the cleaning hassle but I'll heat-gun the waxy stuff out of them and that should do it.

[427TJ]

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To remove the gray from your tires (as well as some stains from your white/red stripe, RWL) you can use a little lacquer thinner on a rag and sparingly wipe the tires down. It will bring them back to black in no time and does not leave a shine. It is the A-All that it graying up on the tires. Just remove it and start over. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

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After you wipe them down with a little lacquer thinner to get them clean, do you put anything on the tire, or just leave them a natural flat black rubber? Does Bleach-White work for removing the "gray" film, or will that cause the film to reappear?

Strange, but I found that the tires look fine over the winter, then the first time I drive the car in the Spring, all 4 tires have the gray film (I use Formula 2000, satin). Must be the heat generated in the tires, after driving a few miles, that brings the product (Armor All, etc.,) up to the top?

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As for the Bleche-White, it does remove the waxy gray buildup that occurs on my Cokers over the winter. It takes me two applications of the B-W but the tires do clean up nicely. My complaint with B-W is that it is pretty nasty stuff if you get it on your skin or in your eyes. I wash down my driveway first and keep the water trickling past the tire because the B-W cleans the dirt and moss out of the pores in the driveway concrete and leaves cleaner areas where the B-W washed away the dirt and moss! First time I used B-W on my Cokers I had to pressure-wash the driveway so it would match the areas where the B-W cleaned out the winter moss staining.

[CDNL-78]

My tires were shipped on Monday out of the USA, here at my place in Red Deer , Alberta, Canada by noon friday. Hats of to Rusty (smallhurst) for going that extra mile for a perfect stranger. IÌI get Bruce to post some pic`s of it after I get them on the car. Thanks again all. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[BUIZILLA]

couple things about the Coker's

they have NO speed rating..

they may not be round...

take that for what it's worth

[olredalert]

-------Hooooeee!!! Jim is so right about that. The Cokers are just redlines installed on a very cheaply constructed tire,,,IMHO. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif.......Bill S

[StealthBird]

I hear ya on the Bleche-White. What the heck is that stuff made out of anyway? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

It does do a nice job on the redlines. I usually spray some Bleche-White onto a rag, then wipe the sidewalls. But I tell ya, you get some on your fingers (when it soaks through a towel), and the stuff feels weird, and it's hard to get off your fingertips even after a few scrubbings with Go-Jo.

My Firestones balanced nicely. But (and this is weird) when I switch between some BFG T/A's (14x7) and F70 redline Firestones (two sets of rally wheels, all balanced and done up nicely), the steering wheel is not centered, but the car still goes down the road straight! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Don't know which set is the problem, I suspect the radials. Since I don't change very often, I simply unbolt the steering wheel and moved it a few notches. But it's weird because the car still goes down the road straight and does not pull with either set of wheels/tires on the car.

[ss427copo]

Well, I have bias on the Camaro. Nothing can take the place of Goodyear E75-15's on the front and L60-15's on the rear. IT DOES SUCK when the tires want to follow every groove....That why I drive it fast. On the other-hand, the Big car Impala rides GREAT with the Coker Radials, especially down the NJTP or 295.

Oh yea....that is Courtney Hansen from Speedvision PowerBlock TV doing an interview using the two Rats as a backdrop.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/nhra1060sc/tn_CourtneyCamaroImpala.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/nhra1060sc/tn_100_4012.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/nhra1060sc/tn_Cortney1.jpg

Jeff x 2 http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Xplantdad]

That's really cool Jeff! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427TJ]

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That's really cool Jeff! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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I have a 16x20 (ish) framed photo of Jeff's Camaro hanging in my garage. It's the photo where he's lighting them up on the street. The quintessential muscle car image.

[427TJ]

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couple things about the Coker's

they have NO speed rating..

they may not be round...

take that for what it's worth

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Yeah, I got lucky with my Cokers--they balanced easily (not a lot of weight). I'll probably go with the UVT F70 pinner whites.

[Xplantdad]

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That's really cool Jeff! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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I have a 16x20 (ish) framed photo of Jeff's Camaro hanging in my garage. It's the photo where he's lighting them up on the street. The quintessential muscle car image.

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I have one too! Jeff's a cool cat! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[Xplantdad]

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My tires were shipped on Monday out of the USA, here at my place in Red Deer , Alberta, Canada by noon friday. Hats of to Rusty (smallhurst) for going that extra mile for a perfect stranger. IÌI get Bruce to post some pic`s of it after I get them on the car. Thanks again all. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

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Here's the before and after http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/zz/tn_1969NovaSS006.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/zz/tn_FtMac026.jpg

[CDNL-78]

Thanks Bruce for putting up the picturtes.
I think Camarojoe said it best in this post, zero to hero. What a difference it make in the appearance of the car. It does grab some of the grooves in the road now, but nothin to out of control. Happy cruisin everyone. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[XXXGoldL34M20]

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Thanks Bruce for putting up the picturtes.
I think Camarojoe said it best in this post, zero to hero. What a difference it make in the appearance of the car. It does grab some of the grooves in the road now, but nothin to out of control. Happy cruisin everyone. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

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I Agree http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif it looks much better now.
Nothing looks better than the original set up.

[SmallHurst]

I forgot to mention. Someone was asking me the best way to take care of the apperance of the sidewalls--- SOS pads!!! It is amazing what those little things will do for a set of round rubber donuts!!!

Point of information:

For reproduction tires, there are two players in town, the rest are resellers of the tires they put out.

Coker-- Firestone and BFG reproduction bias plys

Kelsey-- All Goodyear reproduction tires, bias ply as well as the Customgard Flexten 'Radial GT' that came out on the '78 Indy Pace Car 'Vette and the upcoming Polysteel Radials, 225/60/15.

Darcy,

That car is lookin bad! I hope that you enjoy them!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[napa68]

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My tires were shipped on Monday out of the USA, here at my place in Red Deer , Alberta, Canada by noon friday. Hats of to Rusty (smallhurst) for going that extra mile for a perfect stranger. IÌI get Bruce to post some pic`s of it after I get them on the car. Thanks again all. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

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Here's the before and after http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/zz/tn_1969NovaSS006.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/zz/tn_FtMac026.jpg

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That thing rocks with redlines!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif