1969 Z28 Restoration

[firstgenaddict]

William (10/10RSZ) and I picked this car up from Tony Nausieda (SCUNCIO) a while back… We are finally getting around to getting it well on the way to being completed.
Here are a few details…
1969 Z28 Lemans Blue and Black
Early Production 10D
Non style trim, Rear antenna, console,
51 k miles, Born with DZ Engine M20 Trans and BV 4.10 rear, original interior except package tray and carpet and all glass except front.

2 owner car before restoration began.
2nd owner continues to be employed as a mechanic at the same Ford Dealership since he bought it in 1970. (Ford motor Credit financed the car) After running into a ditch in 1973 he purchased a grille, Lower Valence and then parked it in his garage.


Coming out of the hibernation…

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Ordered with Rear Ant and Spoiler… The Ant option took precedence so when the car came in the owner had the dealer add a spoiler.
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Engine Shot
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302 on the block under the remnants of orange paint
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Firewall with White overspray
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There is an X 7 in the picture… look very carefully.
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Original Paint still on Wiper Cowl Grille
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Note the terrible tape job plus the multicolor paint “blob” where the panel was hung for painting.

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Original 4053 DZ carb.
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Original Baseplate
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BV 4.10 rear
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8H21 480 Distributor
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4 of 5 original AD wheels all dated Sept 20
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US stamped 309 MC
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216 th day 1968 distribution block
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Steering box
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Original door panels
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Dated 9-19-68
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Rear quarter interior panel
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Dated 9-4-68
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2 piece front kick panels
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Original Interior
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Getting ready for paint…
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Painted
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Fresh Paint Pass Door
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Pass Door water sanded and polished
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Cut and buffed
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Driver Side
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Laying out the stripes
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Cowl/Firewall whiteout Overspray
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She is striped!
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[H8tulooze]

Very nice.

[enio45]

wow, nice job on the car!!

[firstgenaddict]

Making the body as slick as possible is what I enjoy... I can look at a mirror like reflection in paint for hours on end...


http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/43508/2174328890059464720S425x425Q85.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Very nice James! Keep 'em coming! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/Icons/popcorn.gif

[Salvatore]

A great color and job! Real nice! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif I love the early cars.

[Dog427435]

[b] WOW!! My favorite – looks GREAT! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[agtw31]

just awesome!!

i bet he drove around town in 2nd gear all day with that M-20

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

Your doing a great job,keep the pics coming James.

[m22mike]

That paint looks a mile deep..I like it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif Outside pic's later ?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

[427TJ]

One of my favorite color schemes! Nice work. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[scuncio]

Wow! Well done James.

[firstgenaddict]

Thanks for the kind words from all, William and I had intended on having it done a year ago... however (insert multitude of reasons here). That being said I can't wait till it's done, being very original and complete has made it quite a bit of fun to restore.

With regards to Lemans Blue... I have had 4 or 5 LB cars so I am kinda partial to them. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[x77-69z28]

is it a norwood or a van nuys car?

[firstgenaddict]

Norwood...

[sixtnine]

LeMans Blue is my favorite shade of blue. I used to own a real LB/blue standard white stripe Z. I live fairly close to you, Asheville, N.C. Do you plan on showing any this year? I would love to see it when finished. Also, is the Kevin Whitaker Chevrolet show going to happen ever again?

[firstgenaddict]

May or may not show it, I am sure it will be driven some.
I doubt Whitaker will happen again.
From my understanding the City didn't like it at the main dealership on Laurens Rd because of the traffic problems.


Mike... the subframe isn't in yet, but here are a few photos with the garage lights off and just natural light.

http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/46893/2030877860059464720S425x425Q85.jpg

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[m22mike]

Holy moly that's some serious paint and body... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[firstgenaddict]

Thanks, for some reason I can see what I need to in order to get one to look pretty good...

BTW... for anyone interested, I do paint cars besides my own... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[H8tulooze]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks, for some reason I can see what I need to in order to get one to look pretty good...

BTW... for anyone interested, I do paint cars besides my own... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

To bad I live so far away, I need my 67' SS Nova painted. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[1969Z28JL8NJ]

By any chance did you get a dusk blue endura bumper with the car? (It's a long story)

[firstgenaddict]

[ QUOTE ]
By any chance did you get a dusk blue endura bumper with the car? (It's a long story)

[/ QUOTE ]

Sure didn't... I do wish that Tony would have thrown in his COPO Chevelle... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drool.gif

[firstgenaddict]

A little more progress... Fun Fun Fun!!!

Coil Spring Marking

http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/24852/2350232780059464720S425x425Q85.jpg

Subframe Assembled
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[drdave69]

Looks clean but put that Augusta National towel back on your golf bag. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: drdave69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks clean but put that Augusta National towel back on your golf bag. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif</div></div>

I bought a new one last year... so the one pictured is available <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[1966L72]

James, what color are the floors, appear to be gray primer ? ... thanks

[firstgenaddict]

I'll get a better picture. They are as shipped from Norwood, I used a custom mixed black with Lemans blue overspray on the bottom and white overspray on the firewall.

[1966L72]

that would be awesome, I'm about to spray my floors and have been torn, my current thought is black/gray PPG Concept GM underhood mix and trying to decide on overspray, your car looks awesome

[firstgenaddict]

Mixing the paints has been the most time consuming part of this project. Thank God the black car is around for direct reference.

[firstgenaddict]

After prep I shot the black mix, 2nd was gray primer over spray, finally I shot the Lemans Blue overspray.
***If the car were a style trim car it would have then had Blacked out rockers the over spray would have then covered a good bit of the Blue and gray over spray.
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The non style trim cars X77, X44, have what appears to be more color but actually they are just missing the blacked out rocker over spray.

[1966L72]

Thank you, these pictures are very helpful, I can now see why the blue overspray appeared gray, I would never have thought to use gray primer over the black yet under overspray color.

[firstgenaddict]

Not until looking at unrestored cars would I have ever thought of it either...

[firstgenaddict]

The Original Sub frame bolts and Washer set ups, this is being discussed on the CRG as well as it seems the expensive repro's are not correct.

Original front sub frame to body mounting bolt assembly (68 and EARLY 69... change in the AIM is Sept.
RBW BOLT - lock washer - Spring washer (silver) - Flat Washer which appears to be heat treated steel.

The undercoating was shot at an almost perpendicular angle to the bolt head from about 9. The swath on the back was blocked from the undercoating and subsequently rusted.
The cupped washer was covered however after flexing during removal it flaked off easily.

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RAD MOUNT BOLTS - LEFT REPRO RIGHT ORIGINAL

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Chambered Exhaust retainer

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Original rear fuel line bracket

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Original molding clips... they are nice enough to reuse... lol

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[firstgenaddict]

Few More

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Drivers BRAKE CALIPER DATED 240th Day of year (exactly as one would expect for an Oct built car)

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A-arms and other brackets were DIPPED as from the factory (note runs)

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Rear Brakes, all repro springs were wrong colors, mixed from originals and painted
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Axle Cast date I308

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AXLE Assembly code
BV 10 31

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Floor Pan Plug and bottom of floor

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[firstgenaddict]

Inside floors and inner doors

http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/43950/2688372010059464720S600x600Q85.jpg


Original Dated Floor Pan Plugs

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/44647/2146168670059464720S600x600Q85.jpg


Sealer for Floor pans &amp; another Floor Plug

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More Component Details

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Steering Column

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[Salvatore]

Man James, that car is looking great!

[mockingbird812]

James - VERY, VERY nice attention to detail. Love your history <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif lesson here. Keep your photo chronology coming. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[69z28302]

Is that a Kentucky plate on the car? Just curious.
Mike

[scuncio]

No, it's a 1973 Michigan plate (the car was from the Flushing, MI area).

[firstgenaddict]

How's that Monaco Orange <span style="font-style: italic">stripper</span> Chevelle coming along Tony?

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">James - VERY, VERY nice attention to detail. Love your history <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif lesson here. Keep your photo chronology coming. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

Thanks Sam, I am an Artist (draw and paint) and for some reason I seem to be able to mix colors to achieve the exact finish(shade, color, tint, etc) I am seeking.
I like things to not only look correct where you see, I like them to look right when you take it apart to service the vehicle. I dislike taking things apart and finding whole inner doors painted body color or tape lines everywhere, whole underdashes painted black etc OR painted/NASTY Window regulators, makes me wonder what other short cuts were taken?
Ideally when I restore a car I would like it to gain the patina the original finishes gained through time, however on a much less aggressive (retarded) basis, if we restored cars as they left the factory, (even using 50 year old technology) and took care of them as WE do, they would last hundreds of years.

[scuncio]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How's that Monaco Orange <span style="font-style: italic">stripper</span> Chevelle coming along Tony? </div></div>

Slowly...still accumulating parts...although I did replace these sweet wheels that were on the car when I dragged it home. ;-)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/2989010077_3c9f7dbf0b.jpg

[firstgenaddict]

I'd rather be restoring that one... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

[mockingbird812]

What's the story on the &quot;stripper Chevelle&quot;?

[scuncio]

It's a COPO 427 car that spent most of its life in Ypsilanti, MI. Was in a shed from 1971-2005 and needs pretty much everything. It has about 9800 miles on the odo but you'd never know it!

[mockingbird812]

Wonderful Tony and Congrats! Please keep us posted. Monaco Orange COPO Chevelle - Wow!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[scuncio]

Thanks, I have owned it for a couple of years but haven't done much of anything to it yet.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3032/2989871448_8a996080fb_b.jpg

[firstgenaddict]

Tony is it a Malibu Trimmed car like George's Daytona Yellow Car?
Would be Bad A$$ with silver at the bottom, if it were correct!

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=156481#Post1564 81

[scuncio]

No, this one is all orange with a white side stripe. Most of the original paint is still there under the flaking white. Honestly I wish it was a different color but it will go back to the original color combo anyway.

[firstgenaddict]

Package Tray Moulding

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/28048/2844131950059464720S500x500Q85.jpg


Drivers Door Glass (Prior to Dec the original Glass has no DOT markings)

http://inlinethumb63.webshots.com/45374/2967031600059464720S500x500Q85.jpg


Drivers Quarter Glass

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Pass Quarter Glass

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Pass Door Glass

http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/4594/2469486320059464720S500x500Q85.jpg

[scuncio]

Cool! I guess that Z didn't have have tinted glass. Looks neat that way.

[firstgenaddict]

Nope the dates are for Sept and Oct of 68.

[Born30YrsLate]

How does a person tell the date code on glass?...never had to do it so never learned it...great resto work!

[m22mike]

Fred
Check this out.

http://www.camaros.org/glass.shtml

Mike

[firstgenaddict]

More...
Refinished Original dust shield spring steel retainers
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/47839/2708246550059464720S500x500Q85.jpg

Reproduction VS ORIGINAL door bumpers

http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/11758/2563866850059464720S500x500Q85.jpg

Original on Left --- Repro on right
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Dash cluster - 51,486 miles
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Original alpha code sticker on Steering Column
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Door handles and locks installed, wow the seals must be trimmed significantly so they won't squeeze out the sides!
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Original Kraft Door watershields
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/47586/2075181970059464720S500x500Q85.jpg

Pass rear &quot;door&quot; panel dates
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Interior Very close now...
http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/45713/2457721780059464720S500x500Q85.jpg

Rear Driver side
http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/45713/2457721780059464720S500x500Q85.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Looks just great James. Thanks for the updates.

My thots on repros: the company &quot;attempting&quot; a repro makes the conscious effort <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif to first determine the total number of ways they will deviate from a correct original piece and then they multiply that by a factor of at least 7. That way they ensure that the piece will only look like it could possibly fit so that they get the poor unsuspecting sap to buy the worthless piece of sh*t. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif

There - that feels better now. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif

[firstgenaddict]

The problem is that the person approving the prototype for production never has to use the piece.

[firstgenaddict]

We moved the car this week to get ready for the Drive train and dog house.... Interior is VERY close to done!

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/47463/2677514080059464720S500x500Q85.jpg

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[iluv69s]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Inside floors and inner doors

http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/43950/2688372010059464720S600x600Q85.jpg


Original Dated Floor Pan Plugs


are my floor plugs installed upside down??..or is this an optical illusion and the plug just 'looks' to be protruding upward?? </div></div>

[firstgenaddict]

No illusion, it's protruding &quot;UP&quot;.

[SS427]

They are installed correctly.

[firstgenaddict]

Progress Progress Progress

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The Digits

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/46835/2038653350059464720S500x500Q85.jpg


Eric Jackson's Artwork...

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/23418/2209873290059464720S500x500Q85.jpg

[scuncio]

Very nice.

[mockingbird812]

Nice indeed! Bring this blue baby to MCACN next year! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[Salvatore]

Car is looking real good James!

[restore-z28]

The cars looks great and will be a head turner when it's done.

[firstgenaddict]

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[mockingbird812]

Real nice James!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Salvatore]

I love it. Keep the pictures coming!

[scoolbus70]

very nice!!!!

[firstgenaddict]

Just ordered a LOF front glass from Pilkington Classic Division which owns LOF and claims to be using original patterns/molds.

Side note: They also said on the Soft Ray glass theirs is green Soft Ray not blue.
Anyone dealt with them before?

Glass, Date coded, and shipping $350
Not too bad if it is CORRECT!!!

Will update with photos when it arrives...

[firstgenaddict]

ore...
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[Salvatore]

real nice James. I used their glass in the front and back of my 69. Looks real nice and correct to me. Looks like you did not go crazy with the paint marks either.

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">real nice James. I used their glass in the front and back of my 69. Looks real nice and correct to me. Looks like you did not go crazy with the paint marks either. </div></div>

Thanks Sam,
It is very nice glass, and the price wasn't too bad, 350 or so for the front.

and yes... I tried to stay away from being labeled &quot;Restoration Graffiti.&quot; thank you for noticing. I also stayed away from CAST BLAST and paint on cast parts which in turn made me fall in love with and invest heavily in Boeshield and Cosmoline.
I more or less replicated the survivors I have seen and photographed.

JAG

[SS427]

Glad to see someone else not using cast blast paint. They look so much more authentic when they are not painted. Just my opinion. It is coming along nicely. Keep up the nice work.

[mockingbird812]

James - what an impressive resto. I see what you are trying to do with &quot;no cast blast&quot; and the like. AZ wx allows for un covered metal for the most part and I just love the real patina of metal if at all possible.

Thanks for keeping us updated!

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glad to see someone else not using cast blast paint. They look so much more authentic when they are not painted. Just my opinion. It is coming along nicely. Keep up the nice work. </div></div>

Not only do they look more authentic, they age like they should.

When the rest of the car ages and gains the beautiful patina like it should, a resto with painted cast parts looks like a resto with painted cast parts...

IMHO the ultimate compliment would be if someone looks at a car I restored and second guesses as to whether it is a survivor or not.

[Salvatore]

I love Boeshield! My survivor nova drinks it. I like the look of cars and NOT lawn ornaments.

[scuncio]

Wow. Sure has come a long way! Looks great.

[69z28302]

Looks Great James , My color too. Let me know when you get to lower windshield trim. I need a picture of how that goes on

Mike

[CamarosRus]

I am very familiar with BoeShield T-9. I want to also recommend
a comparable product called FLUID FILM.

FLUID FILM has a unique woolwax(lanolin)formula containing no
solvents to evaporate. Always active, it will not become tacky,
providing long lasting protection to all metals.

FLUID FILM has been independantly lab tested for 7 weeks and was found to be far superior to other products. Unfortunately this lab test did not include BoeShield T-9.

Check out www.fluid-film.com (http://www.fluid-film.com) for those that believe my recommendation.

Yes I am a dealer. I would deliver aeresol cans at the 2011 MCACN, at my cost if I could get 12 pre-paid orders to cover the product and shipping of one case to the show.

[firstgenaddict]

We put the exhaust on the car today, there are a few differences in the rear hangers. One difference is quite significant as it actually causes the hanger to sit lower by approx 1/2&quot;.

Does anyone else have original exhaust hangers off an Early Chambered car?

Here are the originals and repro's shown together...

DRIVERS

http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/28190/2928596140059464720S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/47667/2123713470059464720S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/47030/2750208810059464720S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/46395/2778893470059464720S600x600Q85.jpg


PASSENGER

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/37405/2273910150059464720S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/33587/2973013630059464720S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/47005/2418049460059464720S600x600Q85.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Who's repro hanger is that?

[firstgenaddict]

GARDNER...
I have a call into them &amp; I am sure they will make it right, however I wanted to see if anyone else has some EARLY originals to compare.

[mockingbird812]

James - my guess is the Gardner boys will want to correct their design if you can provide them with a correct original piece to go from. good luck. let us know.

[MosportGreen66]

James,

whats the build/vin of your z? I should have those hangers off my car.

Dan

[firstgenaddict]

I let Eric know I had the originals and offered them before the system was built as we discussed the white belting. I had no idea, (I'm betting that they didn't know either) the arched rubber piece was a difference in hangers.

Dan,
10D Fisher Body date - Chevrolet finished first week of Nov.
I think your car is a few days earlier... wish this one had your interior!

BTW Eric Gardner asked if I had the clamps from the over axle hangers, I didn't, if you do have them we would like to know if they are as indicated in the assembly manual (strap type) or if they are the standard type clamp.

Thanks
James

[Salvatore]

Are 3 cars are pretty close. My car is 11D of 68.

[firstgenaddict]

There was a Dusk Blue on blue std 11c or 11d I missed a few years ago... 547xxx was the Vin. I should have followed up as I could have bought it right... real right. Even though all the drive train was gone and it needed a total resto it had the original paint and stripes, 4 original dated AD's, white cowl, 2 pc rotors, off white molded silver grille etc.

It showed up on the CRG right after I missed it and I confirmed it as the real deal for the guy out of Ohio.

[MosportGreen66]

James, give me a bit to dig out the hangers and I will post what I have. I'm 10D too.

[firstgenaddict]

Dan,
Shauger posted a photo of his 09B originals on the CRG (exactly like the originals I have.) If yours are not readily available please do not go through too much effort, they would be another data point though.

Thanks
James

[firstgenaddict]

How bout a Flat hood, no spoilers and rear antenna?

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2012/11/full-254-1373-2012.11.11_025.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2012/11/full-254-1368-2012.11.11_001.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2012/11/full-254-1369-2012.11.11_010.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2012/11/full-254-1370-2012.11.11_015.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2012/11/full-254-1371-2012.11.11_031.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2012/11/full-254-1372-2012.11.11_044.jpg

[Salvatore]

Man that is really nice. Love the flat, no and rear antenna. NICE!

[scuncio]

Wow, think about it...it hasn't looked like that in almost 40 years!

[MosportGreen66]

Beautiful James!

What option(s) yielded a rear antenna?

Thanks

[Steve Shauger]

RPO U73 only available with am radio and no spoiler.

[firstgenaddict]

How bout a video?

The chambered sounds just wicked... if there is a way to imbed someone let me know!


http://youtu.be/-wX9IZQiVh8

[Salvatore]

nice!

[Stefano]

<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-wX9IZQiVh8"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-wX9IZQiVh8" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object>

[mockingbird812]

Sweet sound!

[firstgenaddict]

Thanks Stefano <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[miket1]

Very nice ,I love the look of no spoilers, flat hood, rear antenna, very cool, good job.

[firstgenaddict]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-254-2309-2013_01_13_102_1000pix.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-254-2310-2012.12.29_006_1000pix.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-254-2311-2013_01_13_072_1000pix.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-254-2312-2013_01_13_076_1000pix.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-254-2313-2013_01_13_083.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Very nice Z. Nice photography too!

[NoYenko]

James, Great pictures and nice job on restoring as original. Any way to repost Not Available pictures?
George

[firstgenaddict]

Thanks for the compliments on the pics... I studied art and photography for 10 years, it must have paid off!
The pic hosting site was bought out and they moved the addys...
I will get the photos back up even if I need to re-post.

[mockingbird812]

ah hah! you must have been a webshots guy too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

Yes, please do repost your photos - we <span style="font-size: 26pt"><span style="font-style: italic">LOVE</span></span> photos 'round here!!!!!!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[firstgenaddict]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L4YuvMAmq6c/UP2BTw_P3_I/AAAAAAAABPg/vmJNkl4VAZU/s640/2013-01-20%2520064_1000pix.jpg

Pass Front

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oNOLqzKPfRM/UP2BxyxlcpI/AAAAAAAABQI/vuoI2p7HlB0/s640/2013-01-20%2520068_1000pix.jpg

Driver Front

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WgHHnabFiE0/UP2Bx6naQAI/AAAAAAAABQM/bVJZ-P_qfF0/s720/2013-01-20%2520062_1000pix.jpg

Driver rear

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bjCoqFN19gY/UP2BUDlmi5I/AAAAAAAABPk/pEqQIHMZd8k/s640/2013-01-20%2520074_1000pix_contrast.jpg


Pass rear

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-klZmSaBi_pg/UP2Bx_w7ujI/AAAAAAAABQE/VHj8gg0CohY/s640/2013-01-20%2520070_1000pixcontrast.jpg

Speedo...51k miles

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TGhrmuxvbSo/UP2BTRvZBII/AAAAAAAABPQ/BDKtg_EjJE4/s640/2013-01-20%2520094_1000pix.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d7YwORR0eP0/UP2BTwlOpzI/AAAAAAAABPY/aCmJm4JpU38/s640/2013-01-20%2520104_1000pix.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F_ygF1hkWH0/UP2BTc5qFfI/AAAAAAAABPM/k5-OrlYdnG4/s720/2013-01-20%2520103_1000pix.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9yeA6kZLAjQ/UP2BTd9tfJI/AAAAAAAABPU/Gc150pCQDD0/s640/2013-01-20%2520097_1000pix.jpg



under the car

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VcxQbgTYGY4/UP2BPhh6rKI/AAAAAAAABOg/d65k9QLAeN4/s640/2013-01-20%2520116_1000pix.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fNF64-KUpAQ/UP2BQrN5QBI/AAAAAAAABO4/NtrZeTLYE14/s640/2013-01-20%2520136_1000pix.jpg


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PbVbdNSrOYs/UP2BRY9xMvI/AAAAAAAABPE/7LyuOiCkF6c/s640/2013-01-20%2520130_1000pix.jpg


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Xh24jZNysS4/UP2BPGC8D9I/AAAAAAAABOY/2RMm8eJfntw/s640/2013-01-20%2520114_1000pix.jpg

Front driver corner

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C2V5D640LBo/UP2BQkdetPI/AAAAAAAABO0/0GlVkWB2UmA/s640/2013-01-20%2520087_1000pix.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-p8CC5jDb_Tw/UP2BPE2gbXI/AAAAAAAABOU/qLOIrBufnJA/s640/2013-01-20%2520083_1000pix.jpg

[Steve Shauger]

Wow, stunning James....

[mockingbird812]

<span style="font-size: 26pt">Beautiful!!!!!</span>. Stance looks squared away!

[MosportGreen66]

Your work is fantastic James

[x77-69z28]

awesome james. you watch, these flat hood cars are gonna make a big comeback!
buddy

[napa68]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x77-69z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">awesome james. you watch, these flat hood cars are gonna make a big comeback!
buddy </div></div>

you bet! no spoilers either!

[camarojoe]

Love it...

[Charley Lillard]

Can I have it ?

[m22mike]

Love it... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can I have it ? </div></div>

Well now that would depend upon what I could &quot;have&quot; however conditionally yes you can have it... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

uhhh...calling NJSteve... was that worded well enough to relieve me from a binding contract? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif

[njsteve]

Here's the official lawyer answer: &quot;Alledgedly&quot;

[firstgenaddict]

Got the front end about finished up, know I remember why Lemans Blue has always been one of my favorites.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-j1wP6h2HwIA/URBYT7--saI/AAAAAAAABWw/pD3NFeXCuFk/s640/2013.02.04%2520121.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dvn_KT72Njg/URBXZFEIVRI/AAAAAAAABWY/RhzjG19XX_g/s640/2013.02.04%2520099.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GcMDuWrFW5M/URhNWoAvFBI/AAAAAAAABcI/MP1WLF7JfzY/s512/2013.02.10%2520026_rot_crop.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oK1_aQOTIZE/URhNWmleR3I/AAAAAAAABcM/t4un7sS8OhQ/s720/2013.02.10%2520030_crop_color.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e20oK4vobtY/URhNWkVPMII/AAAAAAAABcQ/VSEU_mbf9vU/s720/2013.02.10%2520036_crop.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-93BbCOwOs2k/URhNXohUyRI/AAAAAAAABcg/gslj0lvh5Pg/s800/2013.02.10%2520112_color_corrected_crop.jpg

[MosportGreen66]

Looks great James!

How did you achieve the low light shots?

[firstgenaddict]

Camera and lighting trick, they are actually not low light, they are fast shutter speed...
I used a manual focus &amp; my Fstop set to 2.8 - 3.2 (open lens) depending on zoom - using a macro zoom lens with the light meter set for spot and make sure to turn continuous to OFF (so I can pick and HOLD different lighting by aiming in either the shadows or into the highlights or anywhere in between until I get the contrast levels I am seeking.)

There are (6) 4 foot tubes in 2700k 5000k and 6000k color wavelengths (warm, cool, and daylight) (2) 8 foot tubes - Plus spot. The second picture below shows the different bulb colors in the reflection.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9LWcUefrHBE/URBXwZIeJ6I/AAAAAAAABWo/1A4Pfa_uA60/s640/2013.02.04%2520144.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2LIJM7yjuXo/URBXn_8vh-I/AAAAAAAABWg/qYC_ZPplA44/s640/2013.02.04%2520129.jpg



<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">ALSO:</span></span>
I set my camera to bracket my photos almost every time I pick it up. (what ever exposure time I choose the camera shoots PLUS one overexposed and one underexposed) 3 shots every shutter click. Sometimes there are details you can't pick up that you would like to be able to see.

[mockingbird812]

Thanks for the <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif James. Good stuff. So that's what a bracket photo is. Love this stuff. So much to learn! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[mockingbird812]

James - On the subject of &quot;bracket photo&quot;, what is the advantage of it over manipulating a single digital photo with software (i.e. photoshop)?

thanks

[markinnaples]

Wow, that Z looks stunning. Love that shot of the grill and Z/28 emblem.

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">James - On the subject of &quot;bracket photo&quot;, what is the advantage of it over manipulating a single digital photo with software (i.e. photoshop)?

thanks </div></div>

Photoshop is a modern day dark room if the image is too over exposed or too under exposed you still won't get the definition in the shadows or highlights they will be washed out or dark. Bracketing allows you multiple shots in slightly different light levels, the more you can choose from the more likely you are to get the shot.

[mockingbird812]

Outstanding. Thanks!

[firstgenaddict]

I shoot close to 100+ frames almost every time I take the camera out sometimes 1000, different F stops, slightly different angles. The mistake most people make with photography is being stingy with the shutter... with digital photos you no longer have to worry about film and developing costs... shoot away.

For photography classes in art school we were required to turn in 100 negs for every finished printed Photo...the professor wanted us to get used to shooting everywhere.

I had no idea I had even got this photo until I looked later, the bee flew in an out while the camera was knocking out photos...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JZEnRBofzFU/UOB8mihzxgI/AAAAAAAAAiI/_8CP5QzU770/s512/100B8920_BEEE_2.jpg

[markinnaples]

Wow, beautiful picture.

[scuncio]

Does that car ever look nice. I bet you're elated. Endura is icing on the cake.

[protree68]

i love those endura bumpers nice work

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">James - On the subject of &quot;bracket photo&quot;, what is the advantage of it over manipulating a single digital photo with software (i.e. photoshop)?

thanks </div></div>

Sam,

Most modern day DSLR's have the bracekting function. Heck, even my 2004 Fuji had it. All you do is have to program it. In the old days (Like James says) it was much more expensive to bracket your photos (film costs). The more pictures that you shoot, the better chances are that you'll get the right one.

HDR photography is a form of bracketing as well, the middle and higher end DSLR cameras take one over exposed, one under exposed and one correctly exposed shot and combines them. Read HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging)

[mockingbird812]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Thanks Sensei!!!!

[Stefano]

What a hot looking Camaro!

[firstgenaddict]

Didn't like the ride height of the original springs, they were sagging badly, purchased Bob Harris's springs... looks perfect to me!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SAiQJuU2uDk/UgVTfoMEFgI/AAAAAAAAELg/2QBSbg7AvDU/w1164-h873-no/100_3503.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UYiyWTeAN2g/UgVTfXFeqFI/AAAAAAAAELc/32tUKsJXP-s/w1164-h873-no/100B3523.JPG

[Salvatore]

Looks real good to me! I think right on.

[scuncio]

Just unreal man.

[scuncio]

Is that an original Endura?

[x77-69z28]

Fits way too well not to be!

[DW31S]

I have to say there are some pretty interesting and funny comments in this thread. First of all the car is absolutely gorgeous!!! I applaud you for not adding the cowl hood and spoilers. Most people (those who THINK they know it all) would've added those items and say all '69 Zs would/should have them. I love the &quot;natural look&quot; of the early cars with the flat hoods---very unassuming. Second, back on page 6 some funny quotes were made concerning aftermarket items. Truthfully, I think I agree for the most part---usually the makers think &quot;close is good enough&quot; AND the makers are NOT the installers and couldn't give a crap whether the stuff fits or not. There are a few private guys making parts and since those parts aren't mass produced and since those guys ARE the installers THOSE PARTS FIT!!! Some of the repro stuff is in it's third and later generation of production which sometimes helps and sometimes doesn't.
GREAT CAR!!! Congratulations!!!

[scuncio]

The coolest thing about this car is the fact that James is driving it under its own power for the first time since 1973. 1973! Just a beautiful car, a real purist's Z.

[firstgenaddict]

I am grateful to have had so many survivors and original cars to study during this restoration. The caliber of restored cars has steadily increased thanks in large part to the internet and sites such as this!

Thanks Yenko.net!

[hubleyman]

I really like the look of the Goodyears and am really tempted to get some. My '69 has OEM springs and sits very nice to me, but just doesn't have the same personality without those Bias Plys..... Charlie

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-3493-6120-69_z28.jpg

[firstgenaddict]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jQg7kUGTV_4/UgwJB2CeQBI/AAAAAAAAEOE/z4-_aJICg8M/w1164-h873-no/100B3691.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ReWk2K3YMmE/UgwJEXvs4vI/AAAAAAAAEOo/W8FLKyN2Glg/w1164-h873-no/100B3901.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Du44NCNeBp8/UgwJHf24S6I/AAAAAAAAEPM/wDwOGjXW66k/w1164-h873-no/100B3990.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dujUhcscOWE/UgwJHzn76mI/AAAAAAAAEPU/Ey1UuMGPr9Y/w1164-h873-no/100B4000.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-agSM5B4yqkI/UgwJJd9VuvI/AAAAAAAAEPs/ZzoLmW1IRYw/w1164-h873-no/100B4050.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hCZuw6ZDSCg/UgwJJrJLq7I/AAAAAAAAEPw/Pj0BCvy8k00/w1164-h873-no/100B4071.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-neMc_eHvSKI/UgwJKYxeq0I/AAAAAAAAEP4/IOz91vg70EI/w1164-h873-no/100B4082.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cb-u4NIg5VU/UgwJIPh0SLI/AAAAAAAAEPY/1L-HsnsZYGE/w1164-h873-no/100B4030.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QzxtUekWfH4/UgwJFnn_jkI/AAAAAAAAEO4/58bdu8o0DZo/w1164-h873-no/100B3960.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-owKQ4XdbNm8/UgwJFQHwslI/AAAAAAAAEO0/KIDob91cmAA/w1164-h873-no/100B3950.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3Kj5YegcAr8/UgwJDPMkRuI/AAAAAAAAEOQ/6f-wtsFwvr8/w1164-h873-no/100B3740.JPG

[protree68]

wow it sure came out great. the firewall color looks dead nuts too. it was fun watching the build and good to see you are almost done nice job the paint looks Deeeep just how i like it.

[chevelleheart]

Stunning car!congrats!

[AutumngoldL78]

The goodyears really make a car,ride not that great but the look makes up for it.

[AutumngoldL78]

Really liking the no cowl hood and no spoiler.Congrats

[SmallHurst]

The car looks awesome! And as some have stated.... the tires help make it! The ride may not be what a radial is, but it is accurate to how they rode back in the day!

I love the deep reflection out of your paint! Mirror with a blue tint!

[ZLP955]

Absolutely first class job, James! This car is stunning.