WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THE SITE?

[njsteve]

I tried to get on all day and now it is purple and black and very strange looking. Did the forum site crash?

[TXSS]

Good question!!!

[John Brown]

Cue the Twilight Zone theme...... bum-bum-bum-bum, bum-bum-bum-bum.

[al8apex]

this is HARD to read, terrible actually

[wheelhop]

this new screen color is awful! I find it hard to read and harder to navigate.

[ORIGLS6]

Another Government take-over. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/confused.gif

[92646]

Believe it or not I am relieved. I just had some work done by my cable provider and I thought it was a problem on my side. Oh well as the world turns. Heh I saw no spell check this is going to make me look bad.

[Don_Lightfoot]

Ya, I logged in a couple of times earlier today and all I saw were threads from 2008 and older <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/confused.gif

At least the current threads have returned.

[Postsedan]

No more stars, no smiley faces, what`s up? Someone tell us this is a bad dream?

Dan

[1969l78]

This sucks

[Ngtflyr]

Change is a bad thing... in this case anyway. I also have to log in every time I visit the site. What's up with that. If this is how the site is going to look, I will spend a lot less time here that is for sure.

[markjohnson]

I hear you loud and and clear, Dan. I really DO NOT like this new board either. It just gives off a dark, ominous feeling, or vibe. It's just depressing looking! I REALLY already miss the old 'white' background forum and it just kinda felt like home after spending so many years there. I'm sure many others feel the same way too. It's almost like coming home from work and finding all the locks changed and you've been evicted by the bank or something!

[njsteve]

You also can't view earlier posted photos. The initial few pages of my 72 T/A resto thread had attachment photos that now say: &quot;You do not have access to download this attachment&quot; when you try to open them.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

and when you do view photos they are much smaller now

[Postsedan]

Seems like all good things come to an end <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cry.gif

Dan

[70 Forest Green Zee]

And I'm sure the sponsors will appreciate the fact that their banners are no longer displayed

[1969l78]

I guess it <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seems like all good things come to an end <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cry.gif

Dan </div></div>


Sure looks that way

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 Forest Green Zee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and when you do view photos they are much smaller now </div></div>

On No....this is terrible. Didn`t someone review all of this before sellecting this terrible format? I`m guessing this web designer is NO CAR GUY!

Dan

[Postsedan]

Ha, I just tried to edit my post with-in seconds.....and it said too much time had elapsed..... WHY????????????

Dan

[1969l78]

To change color go to edit your profile then on very bottom there is a style changer go to the ubbthreads_stock setting and then you get a much brighter screen. Its still ugly but not so dark

[1969l78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ha, I just tried to edit my post with-in seconds.....and it said too much time had elapsed..... WHY????????????

Dan </div></div>

I also tried that and did not work---from the penthouse to the outhouse I guess!!!!!

[x Baldwin Motion]

please wake me from this nightmare. I am totally neophobic, I have a note from my doctor, Mother, make it stop. anything please!!

there's no place like home, there's no place like home

[70 Forest Green Zee]

Can only paid members log on now??? My friend Mr Nickey Nova cannot log in from his computer, or mine.

[Postsedan]

OK..... Now the screen is back to a white back ground, this is a step in the Right Direction...I`d give you a Thumbs up, If I had one to give.

Now fix the pics....make the pictures appear large, like they once were before.....

Dan

[70 Forest Green Zee]

Can someone please answer is the site going to be for paid members only from now on??? Currently non paid members cannot log in...

[x Baldwin Motion]

It looks like it's morphing now. The sponsor banners are back so maybe it crashed and is being rebuilt?

[Donnie]

Im not impressed at all.
if you want to lock the for sale section thats fine but, put everything else back the way it was.

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 Forest Green Zee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can someone please answer is the site going to be for paid members only from now on??? Currently non paid members cannot log in...
</div></div>

I hope you get the answer your hoping for..... if not, I know what your answer will be.

Dan

[Rixls6]

Yeah, it would have been nice if someone would give us a heads up about the changes they planned, before implementing them.
I wasn't sure if it was safe to log in at first, thinking the site had been hijacked.
Wait, I think it has been! Can't say I like the new look either.

[Rixls6]

Maybe we just all will be issued special glasses.
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-chores028.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe we just all will be issued special glasses.
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-chores028.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) </div></div>

Yeah Rick,

They`ll be 3D Glasses.

Dan

[jasonL78]

Very hard to navigate. Just to much going on! Some times change is good but this time to much was done to quickly!

[Fast67VelleN2O]

I don't like this new format at all. I bet there will be a DECREASE in site traffic and browsing.

[WILMASBOYL78]

The party's over...we've gone all the way from somehwere to nowhere...what a shame.

wilma

[Don_Lightfoot]

Is everyone else having to &quot;log in&quot; each time? Just wondering if it's just me.

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don_Lightfoot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is everyone else having to &quot;log in&quot; each time? Just wondering if it's just me. </div></div>

No my Canadian Pal.....it`s everyone and All of us.....The COPO Police have spoken.

Dan

[hvychev]

This is the most shameful thread I have ever read on this site. All the same guys bitching too. Start your own site.

google groups (http://groups.google.com/)

[Postsedan]

Frank,

I have no problem with you.....nor do I wish for one. But if we are paying Members we can say what we wish to say. When we are censored, I take it personal. Last time I looked we live in the U.S.A.

So as long as I am a paying member on this or any web site I will say whatever I want without adding politics or religion. I speak from my heart.

Dan

[CC Rider]

I've been playing with some of the settings. Seems to help.

I like some of the new features, but I'll get used to the look.

[hvychev]

Dan, I don't have a problem with you either, but the way you are behaving on this site is not you. This is not the Dan I know. You are a nice guy who is always positive when I see you. So with that said, I will say what I said before, AGAIN. THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. Internet websites like this do NOT fall under the banner of free speech. Free speach only qualifies when you are dealing with the government. So, when it comes to the sYc you have NO right to be a jerk here. You and the rest of your crew are NOT entitled to continually bash the mods and the way things are done here. It is a privilege to post on the sYc. If it is a matter of your measley twenty five bucks, then the Clary's should refund you your small change. If you guys don't like it, then leave. The rest of us should not be subjected to your constant negativity.

[Chevy454]

We're currently in the middle of a software update...thanks to everyone for being so &quot;patient&quot;... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/confused.gif

[Postsedan]

Frank,

I have never bashed any Moderator on this or any website....its not about the money, I too have many friends or crew as you refer to it. You have your own crew too.

So as your are protecting your crew, I am doing the same for my friends. No name calling either.....but if you feel better calling me a jerk...I`m a big boy I can handle it.

Dan

[x77-69z28]

i dont like this at all

[mockingbird812]

Let's all take a collective deep breath and give it a fair chance. I 'spect the Clarys will take care of us. Like Chris said, I too am a neophobic too (I think).

[1970Ls6]

is it just me or does anyone else have a lot of PM's that look like spam? i have like 20 pages of PM's that i did not send. if anyone wants, i can post a copy of them

[hvychev]

Dan, It is obvious that you and your guys are in the middle of a crusade to stick it to the mods and the admin for the beef with Ken Tibor. Your loyalty is admirable. Just think about something though. I can't speak for all the new guys on this site but people like me, you, Ken, Darren, Tom Williams, and dozens and dozens more have evolved as car gar guys largely in part of this site. Think about all the knowledge, connections, (money for some people), and most importantly, the friends you have made as a result of this site. Respect that is all I am suggesting.

[Postsedan]

Frank,

Your correct......I am loyal to my friends and to Ken Tibor. I agree we have evolved...I just let my emotions get in the way, especially when it comes to people I care about.

I do respect the Yenko site and all it`s done for all of us and its members, I just had to vent.

Frank, say hello to your Dad.

Dan

[Rixls6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hvychev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is the most shameful thread I have ever read on this site. All the same guys bitching too. Start your own site.

google groups (http://groups.google.com/) </div></div>

I don't see what's so shameful about a few guys expressing their dislike about the changes.

[kwhizz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hvychev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dan, It is obvious that you and your guys are in the middle of a crusade to stick it to the mods and the admin for the beef with Ken Tibor. Your loyalty is admirable. Just think about something though. I can't speak for all the new guys on this site but people like me, you, Ken, Darren, Tom Williams, and dozens and dozens more have evolved as car gar guys largely in part of this site. Think about all the knowledge, connections, (money for some people), and most importantly, the friends you have made as a result of this site. Respect that is all I am suggesting.

</div></div>

Frankie.........Since it seems that you know the intentions and thoughts of certain individuals here, and you bring me into it.........Do you think it would be a good thing for me to start a thread on this site or another that would explain everything that happened behind the scenes and to clear the air for all......or just leave it alone.......as Dan said.....as dues paying members here I feel I am entitled to offer opinions......I guess in the future I will remain a member but I won't be a supporting member......

Ken

[BUIZILLA]

Rob &gt;&gt; where is the VIEW FIRST UNREAD icon?

[69RSZ]

Very interesting that no notice was posted by the administrators or nobody knew this was going to change? seems like a hacker got into the site and changed everything.

[Xplantdad]

Frank...while I DO appreciate your enthusiasm...and I consider you my friend as well...why wouldn't you have sent a PM instead of saying all of this stuff directed at certain individuals on the open forums?

It really needs to be kept private.

I also consider Dan Vasic a friend...as well as Ken Tibor...as well as Rob, Tom, the SCW gang and a host of others as well. Does that make me a jerk, because they are my friends? Does everyone have to fit into cliques...and only &quot;hang&quot; with those people? I have met SO many cool people BECAUSE we are all cars guys and &quot;hang&quot; on this site...and that's the cool stuff.

To me, the cars are secondary. If to be a member here requires you to have a Supercar, then I guess I am out...as I will never be able to afford one...and I am okay with that.

As far as the site upgrade, The way I look at it, a lot of people don't like the new look (yet...as it's a work in progress) me included (People don't like change...LOL). It will be interesting to see it evolve though...and will be a learning experience all over again, I am sure.

We are all adults here...and this is still the SYC. Let's just wait and see, please?

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1970Ls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is it just me or does anyone else have a lot of PM's that look like spam? i have like 20 pages of PM's that i did not send. if anyone wants, i can post a copy of them </div></div>


Reid, I don't have any SPAM PM's... so???

[al8apex]

just got this:

Recipient: &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Reason: Mailbox quota exceeded

I tried to send a note (privately) pointing out that you were unable to edit your posts ... at all ... not within 5 minutes or 30 minutes ... at all!

the familiar and friendly &quot;feel&quot; the site had is gone as well

I especially liked the link to &quot;active topics&quot; now there are two ... ???

[budnate]

Rob, Mods, not trying to complain but thought to ask before you or the guys working the system is done and walking away...this text is kinda small and real hard to read on my old eyes...when your done is it going to look like it did before text wise?? when we open stuff up? I understand you guys need to fix stuff but please help out a old guys eyes.

Thnx B.

[Jeff H]

It is apparent there is an upgrade being done so maybe we should help out by posting up the things that need to be fixed or tweaked without going overboard. Upgrades are always painful but will go quicker with constructive comments.

It appears that a lot of old deleted PM's have suddenly reappeared as undeleted so I would bet a lot of PM box's will be listed as full.

[camarojoe]

As Rob said 2 pages ago, we are in the MIDDLE of a software upgrade...so yeah, stuff isn't gonna look the same as it did for a bit. Be thankful its not just shut down completely while the updates are being made, or you'd have to resort to using the phone to complain about everything among yourselves in the meantime. Rob is working his as$ off getting things back to the way everyone likes it...if you haven't noticed, every time you log in it's a little bit different than the way it was the time before. It'll get there...He knows what needs fixed and if he needs any &quot;help&quot; from anyone, I'm sure he'll ask for it.

As for the &quot;friendly feel&quot; being gone, i won't argue that, but it has nothing to do with the font size or features of the site. I'd highly recommend all of the bashing, personal attacks, digs, and general BS stop now or you'll have to find another site to complain on and/or about. -JB

Edit: I decided to keep the thread open, but please read the above notices and warnings, and realize the site is still in &quot;construction&quot; mode... bear with us, we're all doing the best we can.

[x Baldwin Motion]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chevy454</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're currently in the middle of a software update...thanks to everyone for being so &quot;patient&quot;... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/confused.gif </div></div>

LOL, see.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif had this been an actual hostile takeover you would have clicked and seen nothing but Fords and Mopars!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cry.gif

[kwhizz]

As for the &quot;friendly feel&quot; being gone, i won't argue that, but it has nothing to do with the font size or features of the site. I'd highly recommend all of the bashing, personal attacks, digs, and general BS stop now or you'll have to find another site to complain on and/or about. -JB


I Agree 100%

Ken

[GenOne]

If I'm reading it right looks like our PM mailbox can hold 10,000 now - that would be nice <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[hvychev]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frank...while I DO appreciate your enthusiasm...and I consider you my friend as well...why wouldn't you have sent a PM instead of saying all of this stuff directed at certain individuals on the open forums?

It really needs to be kept private.

I also consider Dan Vasic a friend...as well as Ken Tibor...as well as Rob, Tom, the SCW gang and a host of others as well. Does that make me a jerk, because they are my friends? Does everyone have to fit into cliques...and only &quot;hang&quot; with those people? I have met SO many cool people BECAUSE we are all cars guys and &quot;hang&quot; on this site...and that's the cool stuff.

To me, the cars are secondary. If to be a member here requires you to have a Supercar, then I guess I am out...as I will never be able to afford one...and I am okay with that.

As far as the site upgrade, The way I look at it, a lot of people don't like the new look (yet...as it's a work in progress) me included (People don't like change...LOL). It will be interesting to see it evolve though...and will be a learning experience all over again, I am sure.

We are all adults here...and this is still the SYC. Let's just wait and see, please? </div></div>

Um, let's see Bruce. I directed these comments on a public forum as opposed to a PM because this is occurring on a public forum and NOT a pm. Come on Bruce, as the sites biggest cheerleader, I would imagine you would see it my way. Hell, you are one of the biggest success stories of positively evolving as a result of this site. I don't even have to start recapping all of the positive ways you have benefited in your hobby and personally because of this site. In turn you have also contributed A LOT to this site and as a result become a popular member. Now with that said, since you are always asking to be a moderator on the sYc why don't you show everyone how good you are at diplomacy. Tell this particular group of disgruntled members (since as you say, they are your friends) that they are being disruptive here. Tell them that they are setting a bad example to the dozens and dozens of new members that are reading all of this, and do not know all of the politics involved. Tell them they are turning this site into one of those sites like LS1 Tech or HAMB where it is a bunch of kids fighting. Tell them that no one is forcing them to be here and there are many other sites to pack up and move to. Tell them that in the past there was another bunch that did the same thing and are now on the outside looking in.

And Bruce, reading is a skill. No one called anyone a jerk because they were friends with someone. I said that they were acting like jerks because of all the points I made above.

[LVCamaro]

Rob is in the midst of a total forum software upgrade that requires him to spend countless hours working out all the changes that come with upgrades. He didn't write the new software upgrade package, yet he has to do ALL the debugging without prior counsel with the folks that did write the new software. I know Rob takes the technical end of this forum very personally and I know that every time we go thru an upgrade, his patience gets stretch marks that could lead to a &quot;why bother&quot; attitude. This adjustment period will likely take a couple weeks of Rob's every spare moment to get things closer to a more user friendly format. The risk is that when suggestions/opinions about the upgrade become closer to chronic complaints...the closer his hand gets to the &quot;pull the plug&quot; solution to his woes as the technical chief. Getting used to the new upgrade is a process that will cause all of us some grief, but I can't even imagine the grief it's causing at Rob's desk.

SS

[Xplantdad]

Frank...you will have a PM soon. I suggest you read it....maybe a few times.

For the record, I have benefited from this site by making lots of friends. Whether I have given anything back may be debatable...BUT, it's not your concern to keep score about what I do or don't do...in fact I think it's an insult for you to insinuate anything about what has transpired since I joined the site by somehow justifying that because I have gotten &quot;this&quot;...that I have to give back &quot;that&quot;. The people that have helped me out in the past know how I feel about them. But, it's NONE of your business.


I am an adult, you are an adult. Let's keep it that way. I have always tried to keep an even keel when posting on this site.

Can you say the same? It's the way I live my life.

BTW, you are not a moderator, so if the moderators have anything to say, let THEM do it. Otherwise, volunteer your time as a moderator and help to make the site better...not start bashing people because they don't agree with you. That brings this site down as well. And the new members whom you are concerned about are probably thinking the same things about the recent stuff you have posted as well.

As an aside, I am not &quot;Always asking to be a moderator here&quot;....far from it. I PMe'd Rob a while back and told him if he ever needed anyone, I would help out. I again (in a post this time) said that I'd offer to help out if needed. That's 2 times, buddy...not ALL the time

Frank, generalizations get you nowhere...except to escalate a situation when it's not necessary. Please refrain from doing so in the future...at least in reference to me.

Finally, thanks for the insult about my reading skills.

I had a great time talking to you and your dad at the reunions. Your dad is a great guy. Say hi to him for me, please.

I am done here....

[x Baldwin Motion]

I would hope everyone is clear on what is happening with the site on the technical side. An upgrade. By someone who I've never met but know he has a family and a full time job. So let's cut some slack.

As far as the other stuff that's happening, far be it from me to be a peacemaker, say the right thing, or ever be suggested for moderation. I have, however, been fortunate to be in the company of smart people from time to time and remember things they say that have helped me stay married for a period of time, raise my family, and not loose clients (that are REALLY STUPID)!!

here's one of my favorites.....
before I speak, ask myself ;

<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">Does this need to be said ?
Does this need to be said by me?
Does this need to be said by me, here and now?</span> </span></span>

Good Luck!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[hvychev]

Hey Bruce, I don't appreciate the personal attacks. No one did it to you, so don't do it to me. I expressed my opinion about a situation and a collective group of people, not anybody personally.

I brought up what people have gained from this site so everybody can keep it in perspective. Like I wrote in my pm to you, as far as gains, I was referring to knowledge, friends, help with you car, basically the same things I and many others have gained from this site, so don't go and accuse me of insulting your family. That is about as low of a blow I have ever received on this site. Like I told you, I don't even know your family.

For a group of guys that claim to &quot;get it&quot; you aren't getting it.

[hvychev]

I need to make a correction. I should have said, bring your family into this, not &quot;insult your family.&quot;

Hey Rob, you ain't working quick enough. Will ya fix the edit button already?! What the hell am I paying you people for!

[mockingbird812]

New cool feature in pms! As you pm a bud on a particular topic, you start a thread so you can easily go back to see what was said in earlier postings just like on the main forum. Definitely a PLUS. Thanks! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[kwhizz]

Frankie........Since you referenced me as a disruptive and disgruntled trouble making member here.....Feel free to go thru the archives and bring foward any post made by &quot;ME&quot; to show that I have been mean spirited toward anyone on this site.......Maybe when you get older and wiser.....you will get it.......Remember....you are the one that brought me into this discussion..........

Ken

[hvychev]

You know what, eff it. You guys can do what ever you want. You all &quot;get it.&quot; Maybe when I try to log in one day the whole joint will be gone. The Clary's will have pulled the plug.

I have nothing more to add here and won't respond to any more posts in this thread. Take care.

[GenOne]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">New cool feature in pms! As you pm a bud on a particular topic, you start a thread so you can easily go back to see what was said in earlier postings just like on the main forum. Definitely a PLUS. Thanks! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif </div></div>

some good stuff - signatures got expanded big time as well - the more I dig the more good stuff I find <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[njsteve]

For the record, when I posted this &quot;what the heck happened&quot; thread, I meant it from the point of view that I thought we got hacked since I saw that wierd, purple, log-in page requesting my log in information. It was like the Nigerian version of Yenko.net. All that was missing was Mr. Dr. Obawattuu asking for my bank account number. :-)

Now that I know it's just a website upgrade, I am quite relieved. Can't wait to see the final product.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

I kinda feel the same way about your Firebird Steve....I can't wait to see the final product! What a great job you have done with that one <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/whistle.gif

[napa68]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hvychev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

I have nothing more to add here and won't respond to any more posts in this thread. Take care. </div></div>

Great idea!

[GM-26]

Once we all adjust to the changes, it's going to be great.
Patience is important.

[70 copo]

Same thing here. I did not sign in until things started to look normal. New features are neat.

[x Baldwin Motion]

hey, is this you tube video imbed new?? very cool!! I never saw THAT before!!

<object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sj0TEUf75rk"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sj0TEUf75rk" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object>

yes Mom, it HAS mufflers!! NO MOM, it doesn't need a tune up !!!

[x Baldwin Motion]

wow. an Avatar...I didn't even know what that was. (didn't see the movie)

embed You tube video.

long playing PM threads.

a question mark....I have my own question mark? who am I the Riddler? where's the stars?

[DarrenX33]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hvychev</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dan, It is obvious that you and your guys are in the middle of a crusade to stick it to the mods and the admin for the beef with Ken Tibor. Your loyalty is admirable. Just think about something though. I can't speak for all the new guys on this site but people like me, you, Ken, Darren, Tom Williams, and dozens and dozens more have evolved as car gar guys largely in part of this site. Think about all the knowledge, connections, (money for some people), and most importantly, the friends you have made as a result of this site. Respect that is all I am suggesting.

</div></div>

LAY OFF FRANK!

[JChlupsa]

Everyone needs to take a chill pill. Rob as well as Joe and LV all already stated the site was being upgraded. As with all upgrades you lose and gain. The gain will far outweigh the loss. Give Rob a chance to get things tightened up and running smoothly. Dont expect it to happen over night and as LV stated Rob does take the site very serious and inbetween his three other REAL JOBS (Husband/Father/work) things will sort themselves out. Give him a chance to get it done. I will say I dont know what options/features the new board comes with but if people would give positive suggestions instead of bitching and moaning about it, it will help.

Rob, Thanks for taking the time away from your family to run the site here.

[Rixls6]

I have to say that now that the site is coming back together, it is looking to be better than before.
It still would've been nice if the upgrades had been announced before they were started to be implemented, but then we couldn't have had fun reading all the posts about the changes we didn't expect.

[old5.0]

This is already a huge improvement over the old, outdated software. And I'm sure it's going to get better as Rob sorts everything out.

[ORIGLS6]

What's a &quot;Spider&quot;? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[jeff morocco]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORIGLS6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's a &quot;Spider&quot;? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif</div></div>

Spiders (order Araneae) are air-breathing chelicerate arthropods that have eight legs, and chelicerae modified into fangs that inject venom. They are the largest order of arachnids and rank seventh in total species diversity among all other groups of organisms.[1] Spiders are found worldwide on every continent except for Antarctica, and have become established in nearly every ecological niche with the exception of air and sea colonization. As of 2008, approximately 40,000 spider species, and 109 families have been recorded by taxonomists;[2] however, there has been confusion within the scientific community as to how all these genera should be classified, as evidenced by the over 20 different classifications that have been proposed since 1900.[3]

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[ORIGLS6]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif Is I one? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[SS427]

It is truly a shame to see where the site as well as others and many of the people here are headed. This used to be called my second home and most all of my friends were found and maintained here. Now we see many of those same people fighting with each other and some of us even having to take legal action to stop others. I also see many instances where people who used to be friends are now against each other solely because of who or what they stood up for on some of these threads. Case in point, EXACTLY where this thread is headed between two people that used to be very good friends. I have friends who voted for Obama. I do not think anything less of them now nor do I beat them up over their decision to vote for him. They are just as entitled to a vote as I am.
What happened to people being able to speak with their opinion and others not holding it against them? What happened to people being able to show their car proudly without fear of people pointing out flaws? What happened to people being able to make comments without fear of reprisal or being banned? To see many of the people that used to call one another best of friends and who are now having to defend their words is really sad on both sides.
People need to climb off their high horses, shake hands and get back to business and that is the preservation and promotion of the muscle car hobby. I don't know half of the behind the scenes stories about what happened to certain individuals here that moved onto other sites and even started their own sites nor do I care. It is a free world. But I do get tired of them fighting publically with each other. Take it privately or better yet………..meet in person and work things out. I do miss when people used to join together for a common cause and not pit others against each other. We ALL.......need to move on, shake hands and let bygones be bygones and get back to what we do best. That being said, BOTH sides need to become more open minded and quit jumping to conclusions about what the other side is doing and/or saying.
This site ‘used’ to be the best on the net bar none. Lately it is carrying a stigmatism that needs to be overcome and return to being the best on the net before it becomes just another battling grounds for very opinionated, close minded and outspoken people. This cannot happen until many of these individuals open their minds and listen to other peoples constructive criticism and not take it personally or simply move on.
The site has changed, let’s change with it and make the best of it. I too think it should have been mentioned before the changes took place just to warn others what to expect as I too thought the site was under siege when I first got on after the change. After numerous phone calls and emails I still did not know what was going on until this thread started. Had word been given, I think likely most all negativism would never have started. Nuff said. I think it is time for men to be men and boys to be babies and either move on or start acting like adults and stop pushing the limits. That goes for BOTH sides and that is what is so sad, there has to be two sides instead of one.
Rick

[SuperNovaSS]

Rob,


Thank you for all the hard work.


Jason

[Smokey]

I second Jason's commment.

Thank you Rob and Tom.

[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x Baldwin Motion</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...I have my own question mark? who am I the Riddler?...

</div></div>

Hahaha...still laughing!!!
And the answer'd be YES Chris!!!
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On the serious stuff, I absolutely can't believe what I've read in some of the postings above!.
The thread content seems to've gone to the dogs more than the site changes have and as much as I feel like commenting on some of it, I'm just gonna' shut up (for once) and say Kudos to the Clarys and Mods for all they do in keeping our little place in cyberspace alive!.

Looking forward to some of the cool new features!

~ Pete
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

[agtw31]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is truly a shame to see where the site as well as others and many of the people here are headed.
</div></div>

you and others here take things said on the internet way too seriously.

there's nothing wrong with this board.

[old5.0]

Bingo. I'm not even a Chevy guy, and this is my favorite car forum. That's gotta say something. Doesn't it?

[Donnie]

can we get the check box back to stay logged in?

[Groucho]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I tried to get on all day and now it is purple and black and very strange looking. Did the forum site crash? </div></div>If it ain't broke, don't break it

[Groucho]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markjohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I hear you loud and and clear, Dan. I really DO NOT like this new board either. It just gives off a dark, ominous feeling, or vibe. It's just depressing looking! I REALLY already miss the old 'white' background forum and it just kinda felt like home after spending so many years there. I'm sure many others feel the same way too. It's almost like coming home from work and finding all the locks changed and you've been evicted by the bank or something! </div></div>And I CAN'T find threads I'm active in to see recent additional posts. This SUCKS! WHY, OH WHY can't people leave shit alone?

[Late BrakeU2]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: andy tantes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is truly a shame to see where the site as well as others and many of the people here are headed.
</div></div>

you and others here take things said on the internet way too seriously.

there's nothing wrong with this board. </div></div>

That's exactly the kind of take it or shove it tude that was exemplified by another poster who took this thread right in to the ditch from the get go. I guess the classifieds were taken too seriously too.

[JChlupsa]

Explore some

click on your screen name in a post and then select posts in the drop down menu. It will show you posts you have been involved in

[Groucho]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HawaiianCamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Explore some

click on your screen name in a post and then select posts in the drop down menu. It will show you posts you have been involved in </div></div>NO, not on my end. But, thanks for playing. Even if it did work, that means I have to dig up a thread I'm involved in, dig up my post, click my screen name to pick up where I left off last time I visited this site? If yes, I call bullshit. Some of us are actually mechanically adept, and barely get by in the computer world. If the change is to accomodate the computer dork, and not the mechanic, I'm gone. So PLEASE lemme know oh wise one

[wheelhop]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Donnie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can we get the check box back to stay logged in?
</div></div>

Donnie,
I had to sign on a few times and then my check box reappeared.
Maybe yours will too. Keep trying. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif

[camarojoe]

Hey Groucho, you were only here for about a week with the old site, so it shouldn't be too hard to adapt to the new one. As Jeff said, explore it a little and you may surprised how much you can figure out with some messing around. Some guys used the old forum for 10+ years, the transition for them (and myself included) is probably alot bigger... yet most are dealing with it pretty well, at least after the initial shock starts to wear off.

I admittedly don't like everything about it either, but we'll get used to it. There are still changes being made too, as Rob (the administrator) is continuing to tweak it to be as user friendly as possible. It'll get there.

Please watch the language btw, I'm a HAMB'er too, but this aint the HAMB. We &quot;try&quot; to keep it a little less low-brow here. Not sure if I posted in your initial thread, but nice rides you have there. -JB

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Groucho</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HawaiianCamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Explore some

click on your screen name in a post and then select posts in the drop down menu. It will show you posts you have been involved in </div></div>NO, not on my end. But, thanks for playing. Even if it did work, that means I have to dig up a thread I'm involved in, dig up my post, click my screen name to pick up where I left off last time I visited this site? If yes, I call bullshit. Some of us are actually mechanically adept, and barely get by in the computer world. If the change is to accomodate the computer dork, and not the mechanic, I'm gone. So PLEASE lemme know oh wise one </div></div>

Calm down and stop the name calling. Once the upgrade is complete we hope things will become simplified. This is new to all of us, its called a learning process.

[John Brown]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Groucho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NO, not on my end. But, thanks for playing. Even if it did work, that means I have to dig up a thread I'm involved in, dig up my post, click my screen name to pick up where I left off last time I visited this site? If yes, I call bullshit. Some of us are actually mechanically adept, and barely get by in the computer world. If the change is to accomodate the computer dork, and not the mechanic, I'm gone. So PLEASE lemme know oh wise one </div></div>

You can probably just click on your name over on the right hand side where it says <span style="text-decoration: underline">Who's Online</span> to get to your profile, then your posts. No need to make it so hard. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif

[SuperNovaSS]

They don't call him groucho for nothing.

Jason

[427TJ]

Okay, the new format is a little weird but I am quickly adjusting to it. I was a little nervous over the weekend when the site was just a dark page with no threads but I figured there was an update in the making. Onward!

[Mr70]

I like this new look..OldGas.com has this exact same website format so I'm familiar with it,and you can tell ours is being dialed in while we all type away.
Very nice &amp; thank you for continuing the fine service you do here Rob &amp; co.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

24 hours ago, I hated it.....now I love it! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

[jannes_z-28]

Is there a way to turn off the &quot;Preview topic function&quot;. I know some people like this but myself I think it is annoying.

I have looked in the settings for my profile but couldn't find anything to turn it off.

Nice to see a long overdue update of this forum. Great work and I believe that all users will get used to it pretty soon.

Jan

[agtw31]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Late BrakeU2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

That's exactly the kind of take it or shove it tude that was exemplified by another poster who took this thread right in to the ditch from the get go.</div></div>

you're overreacting to words typed on a keyboard.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Late BrakeU2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I guess the classifieds were taken too seriously too. </div></div>

i know i didn't,i thought it was sort of comical.i can't speak for anybody else.

[Mr BB Chevy]

Very Nice forums update. i havent played with the newer UBB, mostly IPB &amp; PHP boards. looks like the cross over went smooth and nothing broke. I own and run 3 linux web servers with a few forums, and can tell you not every upgrade is easy. good job.

[Groucho]

So, can I ask, what's the &quot;up&quot; side of the change? A lot of boards change things, and it always seems different, but NOT better. So, why?

[Groucho]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr BB Chevy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> UBB, mostly IPB &amp; PHP boards. I own and run 3 linux web servers </div></div>I'm gonna guess that the change is targeted towards those that know these words/labels? Because I don't know what any of them mean, and the change escapes me. Can't car guys be car guys, even on a computer? Or do I actually have to take a course to learn UBB's and PHP's....to appreciate the change? Hey, just asking

[Kim_Howie]

Hey the country is going thru changes. I like this a whole lot better than the other ones.

[Late BrakeU2]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: andy tantes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Late BrakeU2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

That's exactly the kind of take it or shove it tude that was exemplified by another poster who took this thread right in to the ditch from the get go.</div></div>

you're overreacting to words typed on a keyboard.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Late BrakeU2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I guess the classifieds were taken too seriously too. </div></div>

i know i didn't,i thought it was sort of comical.i can't speak for anybody else. </div></div>


There's been overreacting, on both sides of the equation. Some of the people behind those text fields might not appreciate a smackdown in front of their peers on a public forum. It's only comical when the keyboard is pointed at someone else.. .

Most old farts like routine, and are resistant to change. I'm sure it will all work out fine in the end but clearly some people on here need to work on their tolerance game.

[kwhizz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kim_Howie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey the country is going thru changes. I like this a whole lot better than the other ones. </div></div>


x 1000

Ken

[kwhizz]

Rob.............Are the picture sizes going to remain small or are they going to be tweaked to the original size??

Great Job on the new format

Ken

[Steve Shauger]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Groucho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, can I ask, what's the &quot;up&quot; side of the change? A lot of boards change things, and it always seems different, but NOT better. So, why? </div></div>

2 tenths off your E.T in car jargon LOL. There will be some added features which some have found. Many upgrades are done because developers no longer support the older versions and if the site encounters a glitch/problem they won't provide support.

[Groucho]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Groucho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So, can I ask, what's the &quot;up&quot; side of the change? A lot of boards change things, and it always seems different, but NOT better. So, why? </div></div>

2 tenths off your E.T in car jargon LOL. There will be some added features which some have found. Many upgrades are done because developers no longer support the older versions and if the site encounters a glitch/problem they won't provide support. </div></div>LOL. 2 10th's is great. But...At the risk of me sounding silly, I'm not sure that answered my question. So, what are the upgrades that some have already found?

[Groucho]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1969l78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This sucks </div></div>I'll have to agree. I know a LOT of you guys/gals are computer literate, but, sometimes it'd be nice if you considered us that AREN'T.

[rubbinisracing]

I know someone mentioned it before, but I hope we will still have the option of listing our name in profiles. I prefer knowing who's doing the talking. I don't get the warm fuzzies when there is no email address or name attached. I know we can't do anything about those who use made up names like a Las Vegas show girl. Take &quot;Stefano Bimbi&quot; for example...

[Mr BB Chevy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Groucho</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr BB Chevy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> UBB, mostly IPB &amp; PHP boards. I own and run 3 linux web servers </div></div>I'm gonna guess that the change is targeted towards those that know these words/labels? Because I don't know what any of them mean, and the change escapes me. Can't car guys be car guys, even on a computer? Or do I actually have to take a course to learn UBB's and PHP's....to appreciate the change? Hey, just asking</div></div>

...was telling the Admin(s),nice upgrade. this site was way overdue for an update. pretty lucky it wasnt hacked or de-faced. the upgrade comes with better security.

[parkbrau]

Good job Admin's. I was a little worried that the Computer Nazi's over here were up to no good.

This is a tremendous amount of work to do on your spare time.

[parkbrau]

Lot's of cool new additives. It took me a minute to figure out why my Smiley face was awake next to my sig block.

Let me jump on another turnip wagon.

[x Baldwin Motion]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rubbinisracing</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...... I know we can't do anything about those who use made up names like a Las Vegas show girl. Take &quot;Stefano Bimbi&quot; for example... </div></div>


Hey!! Three shows a night and still has time for cars! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[kwhizz]

Pictures are back to full size........Great Job Rob!!

Ken

[Chevy454]

I think I actually set the max width to 600 pixels...big enough, but shouldn't run off the edge of anyone's monitors.

Still lots to do...

[ANDY M]

Rob, is the little &quot;shout out&quot; box gone for good?
How about the &quot;Last read post&quot; link?
So far, so good!

[Groucho]

Do I have to be a paying member before I can post an avatar pic?

[ORIGLS6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x Baldwin Motion</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rubbinisracing</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...... I know we can't do anything about those who use made up names like a Las Vegas show girl. Take &quot;Stefano Bimbi&quot; for example... </div></div>


Hey!! Three shows a night and still has time for cars! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

I think you guys confused our beloved Stefano Bimbi with the not-so-luscious aging pole dancer <span style="font-weight: bold">Stefani Bimbo</span>. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Groucho]

Still not liking the change. Many boards have certain similarities that can be helpful in navigating for those of us that are computer impaired. This board included, until the change. Problem is, on the Net, is that way too many take for granted that we all possess their computer savvy when they set up these boards. Remember, many us us are merely car guys with a computer, and NOT a computer guy with a car. BIG difference. Similar issues make a lot of current car magazines suck. Yesteryear, real car guys wrote, nowadays, writers try to understand cars, and therefore write some hardy understandable jibberish. As a kid, I understood more of what I read in car magazines than I do now, after years of being a mechanic/drag racer. Sad. How will today's kids get an interest to carry the torch if they don't understand what they're reading? And please, before you go on as to how I should keep a Dictionary next to my Hot Rod mag.....education in ridiculous wording is NOT why I read those magazines. If I have to stop every tenth word to look something up, I lose interest in the story at hand. Therefore diminishing the entertainment I seek by reading magazines of that type. Rant over. Back to the original issue....remember, some of us are mere car guys with minimal computer savvy when you make these changes

[Chateau Slate 66]

Geez, are you still bitching about the site changes? You obviously need some real problems in your life if this is all you have to complain about.

[Groucho]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chateau Slate 66</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Geez, are you still bitching about the site changes? You obviously need some real problems in your life if this is all you have to complain about. </div></div>I do have real problems. Some of which go away temporarily with time spent on the computer. So, difficulties here..... diminish the distraction from the real problems. That make sense?

[Chateau Slate 66]

You are entitled to your opinion, and you have made your point several times. It is time to move on.

[SuperNovaSS]

Would you drive without a license? How about SCUBA dive without being certified?

I'm sure you did not always know everything you now know about cars. You had to learn it. Computers are the same way. If you do not want to learn, then stop complaining about not knowing how to use a computer.

I am patient with those who are trying to learn. Unfortunately, it sounds like you do not want to learn how to use a computer better and want everyone else to cater to that. Ignorance can be fixed by learning, being stubborn is a different ball of wax.


Jason

[Salvatore]

Thats right Jason. I love you young guys, keeps me young at heart and thinking young!

[x Baldwin Motion]

looking for the photo gallery, anyone seen it? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/stupid.gif

[Groucho]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuperNovaSS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would you drive without a license? How about SCUBA dive without being certified?

I'm sure you did not always know everything you now know about cars. You had to learn it. Computers are the same way. If you do not want to learn, then stop complaining about not knowing how to use a computer.

I am patient with those who are trying to learn. Unfortunately, it sounds like you do not want to learn how to use a computer better and want everyone else to cater to that. Ignorance can be fixed by learning, being stubborn is a different ball of wax.


Jason </div></div>I've navigated my way through many boards, for many years just fine, until the change on this one. I'm very passionate about cars, and love discussing them and learning about them. But, when there's a change as radical as this one, it puts a damper on that. Does any of this make any sense? Or are all you guys computer whizzes? It's kinda like stopping an engine rebuild to take a 3 hour course on re-learning the use of a torque wrench

[kwhizz]

Groucho........Don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out.................

Ken

[1969z280]

I thought the new format would eliminate any chance of a Virus! Maybe, it's just a glitch that will go away in time.

[DWCamaro69]

Some new cool features. Seems like it will be for the good in the long run. Thanks to Rob for taking on this tedious task!

[427.060]

Grouchy, if you keep up with the cursing you may may get an involuntary vacation from this site. You were warned a couple days ago about the language. This is not the HAMB message board.
James

[LVCamaro]

somebody make it stop...

[six-corners]

Groucho made an excellent point...and if you want him to move on, why keep adding to the thread?

[Norm reynolds]

I Like the look of the new site great work Rob

[m22mike]

Ditto to what Norm said...and nice job Rob, thanks for your hard work. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[SS427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LVCamaro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">somebody make it stop... </div></div>

x1000 !!!!!!!!!!

[x Baldwin Motion]

PM text included in email notification!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif that's another great upgrade.

[Belair62]

Sheesh...been away for a while...site looks great..some of you whiny bastards make me long for my never to be ex wife !! I'm eating friggin Alpo and you guys are complaining about a new and improved site ? That's it. I'm coming back into humanity again.

[TDW]

Hey, Alpo is pretty high-rent dog food isn't it? At least you aint eatin the store brand junk! Welcome back. I missed you!

[tabooo]

Hey Bob,
Glad to see your back &amp; alive,get the O-niner out to Lombard one Sat.and i'll buy dinner @ that new Italian rest.
Mike P.....

[1970Bluel78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Groucho........Don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out.................

Ken </div></div>

Now there is a real classy response.....I'm not diggin the new format either but will get throught it for sure. I'm thankfull for all the work involved with making this site, but guys should be able to express their feeling without that kind of response...Now back to CARS

[69Tom]

Excellent--threads with new unread posts are now highlighted in yellow! Small changes over time keep making this site better. I, for one, am now enjoying the new format and find it not much different than the old.

Keep up the good work guys!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[CDNL-78]

Lookin good Rob, keep up the hard work. Changes are some times painful, but good in the long run. This site still rocks. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif

[ORIGLS6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> That's it. I'm coming back into humanity again. </div></div>

Now that's the best news I've heard since I got up this morning! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif , ...... but we love him anyway.

[Belair62]

This, coming from the king of whiny bastards ! Rabblerouser till the end ! And Mr TDW...the s\generic dog food has way too much filler. I have to watch my girlish figure still. You never know when a geriatric chic is gonna look my way.

[ORIGLS6]

Thanks. I feel better now.

[x Baldwin Motion]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORIGLS6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belair62</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> That's it. I'm coming back into humanity again. </div></div>

Now that's the best news I've heard since I got up this morning! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/BelairSucks.gif , ...... but we love him anyway. </div></div>


<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif welcome back to humanity. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Ngtflyr]

Is it me or are the number of posts, especially in the for sale section down sigificantly since the double wammy of the for sale rules change and the site upgrade? Not knocking either, just my observation.

[PxTx]

Seems like traffic is down, but now that things have been ironed out I expect things to pick up. I know I was staying away while things were in transition.

On a side note, I don't get the roll-over preview. Seems like it is totally redundant because it you already get the preview when you view the Active Topics search.

[TDW]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ngtflyr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is it me or are the number of posts, especially in the for sale section down sigificantly since the double wammy of the for sale rules change and the site upgrade? Not knocking either, just my observation. </div></div>

I thought the same thing.

[olredalert]

-----I see the same thing as far as the classifieds are concerned. The changes were well meant but unless something happens it looks like the classified section may be dead or dying. Back before the classified changes I used to tell many friends (not on this board) that they should list appropriate cars on the sight as I knew of no other sight that could almost guarantee a sale. The new rules unfortunatly sort of knock that idea out!........Bill S

[Chevy454]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">-----I see the same thing as far as the classifieds are concerned. The changes were well meant but unless something happens it looks like the classified section may be dead or dying. Back before the classified changes I used to tell many friends (not on this board) that <span style="color: #FF0000">they should list appropriate cars on the sight as I knew of no other sight that could almost guarantee a sale. </span> The new rules unfortunatly sort of knock that idea out!........Bill S </div></div>
It should still be true. The exact same audience [market] is here, as it was before...the only things missing are the asinine comments.

The irony of it is, some of those now crying the loudest about &quot;no replies&quot; are the same ones that forced us to go in that direciton.