So what are the next collectibles?

[markinnaples]

Just wondered what everyone here thought as to what vehicles would be the next collectibles; ie, IROCs, GTA's, Fox Stangs, mid 80's MC SS's, etc.

[old5.0]

I guess I'll jump on this one. I can't speak for the other cars on the list, but the Fox will most definitely be collectible. In reality, the climb is already starting.

I know of two exceptionally well done modded LX coupes that have sold in the past twelve months for around $30K. Similar cars, both 8.2 deck strokers, supercharged, full cosmetic restos by reputable shops, etc. Keep in mind, these were not spec built class racers, but very well executed, very fast street cars. A few years ago, these cars would have struggled to bring ten grand.

I also know of an 87 LX coupe, 5.0, 5-speed, black over red, no option, radio delete. The car is still in the original owner's hands, is very low mile, and has all paperwork from new. It has a standing offer of $25,000. Foxes are going to be completely the opposite of every generation of Mustang that preceded them in that the notchbacks will be most valuable, the convertibles least. Also, with a few exceptions, a "period correct" or Day 2 modified car may equal a clean original in value. Aftermarket performance parts from the early days seem to be increasing. I know of a very rare Trick Flow intake from the early 90's that recently brought $1500.

Myself, along with a couple others, have begun a very ambitious research project on these cars, and we've found some pretty neat stuff. Things that I think will be a little shocking when they come to light and may help increase the value of the cars. Of course, maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part. If so, that's ok, I'm having fun.

I know of two Fox specific history books in the works. I know one of the big resto parts houses will be releasing a Fox Mustang catalog this year, and one other at least is looking at the Fox market very hard. In my opinion, all the signs point to these cars enjoying a sharp increase in interest and value over the next decade.

[budnate]

5.0 your right on. but keep in mind the SN95 94/95 5.0's reached perfection and will be in the hunt and others all due to the masses that modded them then moved on with life but will want them later in life like the Fox bodied cars, I also believe the IROC and the 1LE cars are right there as well. and the Supras will command big money...probably some Z cars...oh and some early Porsche 930 cars...and...ahhhhh where does a guy stop.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[old5.0]

I think you're right.

One thing about the 3rd gen F-bodies. Something we're finding more and more of is dealer built &quot;super&quot; 5.0s. It wouldn't surprise me if people found the same thing with the Chevies and Pontiacs, as historical interest in them grows.

[agtw31]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> In my opinion, all the signs point to these cars enjoying a sharp increase in interest and value over the next decade. </div></div>

you could be right,but i don't see a pre EFI Mustang GT being very collectable.

maybe the 5.0 Capri,those are pretty rare.

the Fox bodies that will be collectible to me are the specialty cars,like the R,SVO turbo,Saleen,Car Tech,McLaren,etc.

i rode in a Car Tech turbo Fox body years ago,that's a very dangerous car.

as far as F bodies,i think they will do better than Mustangs,just because they were faster.

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: andy tantes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> In my opinion, all the signs point to these cars enjoying a sharp increase in interest and value over the next decade. </div></div>

you could be right,but i don't see a pre EFI Mustang GT being very collectable.

maybe the 5.0 Capri,those are pretty rare.

the Fox bodies that will be collectible to me are the specialty cars,like the R,SVO turbo,Saleen,Car Tech,McLaren,etc.

i rode in a Car Tech turbo Fox body years ago,that's a very dangerous car.

as far as F bodies,i think they will do better than Mustangs,just because they were faster. </div></div>

Well, I agree to a point. Overall, I think the aerolight cars will bring more money than the four eyes, but there are some pre-87 cars that'll pull decent money. The cars you listed are already collectible, and will increase in price as time goes on, but the Fox collector market isn't going to be structured the same way as the 60's market. Low mile originals will always pull decent coin, but I see well done modified cars bringing better money than a stock restored car (and there are a few of them out there).

And faster is pretty subjective. Tony Defeo got a bone stock 87 LX hatch with no miles and a tight engine through the quarter in 14 flat in Cars Illustrated. A pulled intake silencer,timing bump, and slicks got it down to a 13.40. Evan Smith over at MM&amp;FF got his 89 LX down to a 13.55 with just the infamous &quot;ten minute tune-up&quot;. The fastest 3rd gen test I've seen is a 14.41 from a 350 TPI IROC in MCR (I think).

[GenOne]

I hate to say it but one of my favorite cars was the 86 Mustang GT - black w/ red interior zero options $11,065.00 including dest (still have the window sticker if anyone has the car last 4 on the vin 3611). That car was a blast to drive.

I grabbed one of the first 87 350 IROCS when they came out (still have the window sticker if anyone has the car last 4 on the vin 8877) and was not impressed one bit. For lack of a better description it was a pig to drive around and it sat in the garage most of its life.

Although we're not talking about GNs (another one of my all time favorites) I still have the window sticker for my 87 last 4 on the vin 0027 if you have the car.

Some good cars back in the mid/late 80s

[flyingn]

I lived thru the 80's area of street racing and I can tell ya that in the Phily area the GN's and Mustangs were kings. The Camaros were no where in sight.

[markinnaples]

I would bet that IROCs and GTA's will increase in value as well. They may not have been the quickest, but they handled very well.

Fourth gen SS Camaros and WS6 T/A's should do pretty well also.

[SBR]

I think the Ford GT will be highly collectable in the years to come. It seems like the GNX is really coming into its own in the last few years and I'm sure low mile GNs should do well too.

[StriperSS]

The Canadian 1LE cars are going for pretty big money lately, and the trend seems to be in restoring them to the way they looked when they raced. Here's a couple. The white one is an 87, and the red one is a 91. I was a sponsor on the red one, and did the lettering.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/StriperSS/Race%20cars/1002090029.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/StriperSS/Race%20cars/1002090013.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/StriperSS/Race%20cars/1002090005.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c155/StriperSS/Race%20cars/1002090021.jpg

[PxTx]

I agree, about the 5.0 Mustangs and GN being the ones to beat on the streets. The shame of it is that most of the collectable value is made form what they did on the streets, or at least that is my perception. I never realy was aware of much that they acheived in any type of formal racing.

I do beleive many of the import cars that started being featured in the video games in the late 1990's will be appreciating at a faster rate. Like someone mentioned Supra, Mistu 3000 GT, Skyline, Lancer, STI et al. There were a lot more people who became more intimate with a car expereince through the fantasy of these games. The internet hit about the same time and there becasue a whole new way to become exposed to cars- for the better!

[The Dude]

I remember when I pulled the stock air box/silencer from my 89 coupe back in 95 that someone in about 15 years is going to want them. I kept them along with the stock headers, and smog parts for a long time. Finally tossed them when I sold the car. Those parts and stock pulleys, throttle bodies, and the rubber boot around the distributor are going to be hard to find parts. If they arent already.

Sold this one 5 years ago, have an agreement to buy back when he sells. It is one of 400 made in this color for 89. Califonia emission car built without a rear defroster.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/other/stanger2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/jjram69/other/int5.jpg

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I lived thru the 80's area of street racing and I can tell ya that in the Phily area the GN's and Mustangs were kings. The Camaros were no where in sight. </div></div>

Same back here. Even up through the 90's, it was 90% Turbo Buicks and 5 Liters, with a little bit of vintage muscle and the occasional SBC powered late-70's/early 80's Malibu thrown in.

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree, about the 5.0 Mustangs and GN being the ones to beat on the streets. The shame of it is that most of the collectable value is made form what they did on the streets, or at least that is my perception. I never realy was aware of much that they acheived in any type of formal racing. </div></div>

Well, they were fairly successful in NMCA. And of course there was the old AMRA and the current NMRA. They never had much of a presence in NHRA, but that doesn't surprise me. Logically, why spend 50 grand (or more) building a competitive NHRA class car, when you can spend 10 grand or less on a blower and a good H/C/I set up, run 10's and drive it to work every day?

I don't see establishing their reputation on the streets as a negative, though. It seemed to work well for the Motion cars. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif