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talwell
12-28-2010, 03:05 AM
Is it just me or is this X22 on the trim tag stamped upside down?

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz197/cmwebay/69%20SS%20RS%20396/204.jpg

Steve Shauger
12-28-2010, 03:19 AM
I don't like that tag, but It could be just the contrast and that the paint being stripped off. Do you have any others pics with it painted.

talwell
12-28-2010, 03:25 AM
Story on the car that this tag is on - located in North Carolina after sitting behind a garage for 20+ years. I saw the pics of the car before and during restoration and it sure could have been a car from the east that sat for 20 years. Now the trim tag I know was blasted - I know the guys fairly well that did the restoration and they told me this is the tag that was on the car when they pulled it from that hole that it was sitting in.

To me it just looked like the X22 was upside down - this is not attached to a huge dollar or supposedly rare car other than color combination so the motives to fake it are reduced.

allcamaro
12-28-2010, 04:06 AM
This one is as close as I could find to compare.

http://www.fototime.com/B651788F65CC8B8/standard.jpg

talwell
12-28-2010, 06:29 AM
I will see if I can get any other pics of it - I really have no reason to suspect anything on the fake here as the car is not a significant value car.

I just thought it was really cool to see the tag with the error - unless I am wrong the X22 is for sure upside down.

jannes_z-28
12-28-2010, 08:29 AM
I don't understand what you mean, X22 being up side down. The 22 is not upside down and the X is symetrical so even if it were up side down it wouldn't do any difference.

The angle of the picture with the shadows give you an optical illusion of a slightly distorsion of the X. But upside down, No!

Jan

njsteve
12-28-2010, 02:58 PM
I believe he is referring to both of the number 2's which have the curve section of the number 2 at the bottom instead of at the top.

m22mike
12-28-2010, 04:05 PM
I mostly agree with what Shauger said. This one picture is not good enough to make a good call. On the plus side the rivet goop looks original, and the 2's do not look upside down to me .

al8apex
12-28-2010, 05:05 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't understand what you mean, X22 being up side down. The 22 is not upside down and the X is symetrical so even if it were up side down it wouldn't do any difference.

The angle of the picture with the shadows give you an optical illusion of a slightly distorsion of the X. But upside down, No!

Jan
</div></div>

agreed

the 2's are &quot;normal&quot;

maybe because there is no paint on it or the angle of the view

looks correct

talwell
12-28-2010, 05:45 PM
I will attempt to get another shot of the trim tag from another angle to see if it will show better. The photo I provided I can see how it can be disputed - could just be weird shadowing making it appear upside down.

Jonesy
12-28-2010, 08:39 PM
NOR135366 body number also shows up in a search over at camaros.net. Maybe somebody recorded the wrong number or someone used this body number to make a fake tag up??

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=166922&amp;highlight=nor135366

I think the tag in the first post is real and the pic is just a little distorted for some reason.

talwell
12-28-2010, 09:49 PM
Interesting find on that body number - the tag this car is on does not have that VIN number, is a different color, different X code and different interior. I have verified that the vin tag on the car matches both hidden vins.

Looks like someone guessed a body sequence number and made a trim tag.

Jeff H
12-29-2010, 12:32 AM
I don't like that trim tag. It might just be the picture and possibly the camera did some type of strange zoom or something. But the &quot;22&quot; does not look like the same font in the &quot;12437&quot; and the &quot;5&quot;'s don't look to match other trim tags in Jerry's book. It almost looks the NOR, paint code and X22 were added to the tag at a later time. But it might just be the angle or camera.

jannes_z-28
12-29-2010, 09:20 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: talwell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting find on that body number - the tag this car is on does not have that VIN number, is a different color, different X code and different interior. I have verified that the vin tag on the car matches both hidden vins.

Looks like someone guessed a body sequence number and made a trim tag. </div></div>

There would exist two cars with that body number. This one is built in 1969 (X-coded) the other in 1968 (not x-coded). Norwood restarted the bodynumbers in Sep 69 when the production continued during the fall waiting for the 70's to start.

Jan

Jonesy
12-29-2010, 05:28 PM
The 68 tag would not have that high of a body number, nor was there week 09E in 68. It was probably a fake tag in the camaros.net post. Also in that post it says 09E 11 which is probably 09E X11.

ChevyThunder
12-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Here is the tag off my U16 Z VIN # 692076 for some comparison

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/ChevyThunder/Garnet%20Red%20X77D80/th_TrimTagX775252.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/ChevyThunder/Garnet%20Red%20X77D80/TrimTagX775252.jpg)

Kurt S
01-04-2011, 07:59 PM
Hard to tell for sure with that pic, but talwell's tag looks OK.

I suspect the other tag with the same body # was a repro.