"Swedish COPO" up for auction in Florida

[COPO_Anders]

A friend of mine called today and said that he had read in a Swedish magazine that my old car had been shipped to Florida to be auctioned. I believe he talked about All American Auctions, and that Michael Pomeroy (not sure about the spelling)had written a statement about it. Michael contacted me some time ago and I thought he was going to buy it himself. But that was not the case I understand now.
Can anyone find the auction and make a link ?

[PeteLeathersac]

RM Fort Lauderdale March 04/05/06 2001..

http://www.rmauctions.com/FeatureCars.cfm?SaleCode=FL11&CarID=r402&fc=0

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~ Pete

[COPO_Anders]

Thanks Pete !
Really not much info there. Is that all a potential buyer gets to see ?
The guy who bought it from me was buying it as a father/son project he said. But last summer a guy over here who has a 67 Shelby Mustang called me and asked about my old COPO. He was considering trading it in on the Shelby, he said.
Anyway, now hopefully the car will be bought and restored by someone with the right skills, and I can enjoy pics of it on this site in the future.

[RPOLS3]

Anders-

For those of us that do not know much about the history of the car maybe you could elaborate on it here?

Thanks

Jake

[PeteLeathersac]

Sorry about the mistaken year noted in the link I posted..
Correct info: RM Fort Lauderdale March 04/05/06 2011..

As Jake asked, more history about your old L72 car would be great Anders!.
Posting the Vin would be a good addition to this thread too also can you expand any on the auction notes about stampings?.

<span style="font-style: italic">&quot;...The assembly stamping on the block has been re-stamped most likely during an engine rebuild, however it retains its original factory stamping by the oil filter and is confirmed to be the original factory 427 c.i engine...&quot;</span>

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~ Pete

[John]

... &quot;noted Camaro expert Michael Pomeroy&quot;

...For some reason that name keeps ringing in my head....

..... anyone know him?

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[PeteLeathersac]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

... &quot;noted Camaro expert Michael Pomeroy&quot;
...For some reason that name keeps ringing in my head....
..... anyone know him?
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Has something to do w/ the '67 L78 Batcar?.
Noted as SYC member that helped set up Eric's VintageMuscleParts website, click here...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthrea...true#Post399491 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=399491&amp;Searchpa ge=1&amp;Main=38279&amp;Words=pomeroy&amp;Search=true#Post3994 91)

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~ Pete

[Xplantdad]

He's a member here...67L78conv

Check it out (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showprofile&amp;User=2841)

[John]

...that's it.... thanks guys <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[COPO_Anders]

Jake and Pete, yes I´ll tell you the story about this COPO as I know it. I don´t have much time during this week though so I´ll probably have to do that during the weekend.
Partial VIN is 19N661631 and the body# is 353000. I don´t have any US-history about it, but it COULD have been sold new by Malcolm Konner, Paramus N.J. since body# 001,003,005 and 007 are all documented M.K-cars. But that is no proof of course.
It is listed in the first COPO Connection Source Book as &quot;Documented&quot;, but I don´t know why since Ed C. never told me.

[jannes_z-28]

That's sad...

But I can understand it, there isn't any buyers for this kind of car over here. Not that can or will to put up that kind of money for a &quot;rusty&quot; Camaro.

I know some of its history, it has been covered in a few magazines and I wrote an article about it for the Swedish Camaro club magazine.

The rumors says that a guy ordered a Z/28 from one of the importers in the mid 70s. When they had the car in their showroom they called the guy and he refused it since it had a bigblock and wasn't a Z/28. Bummer, but no one knew about the COPOs then.

It got sold and had a bad life the first ten years and its condition became bad. It ended up on a scrapheap with a non-working engine. A guy with a Nova prepped for the strip wanted it and did a trade and got some money for the Nova too. Must have been the best COPO deal in the World!

New owner started to work on the car and discovered some strange things, like the beefier converter and that both the engine and the trans had the cars VIN stamped on them. He started to do some research and found out that this was the true thing, a real 427 COPO Camaro.

The rest is history, Anders bought it from him some time later. It is very rusty around the dashboard and the VIN-plate is rusted away and it has gotten a new VIN-plate applied by General Motors in Sweden in the drivers doorpost.

It will need a body restoration but everything is there with a pretty well documented history from Sweden.

I guess Anders will fill in with more details.

It's sad that we can't keep these kind of cars over here. The market is a fact, there are very few buyers over here that will pay what a car like this is worth.

And that is just what I have told the present owner, if he wants to sell it it has to be in the USA.


Jan

[COPO_Anders]

Here is an e-mail I sent to Kurt Sonen in 2002.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/CopoConnectionCRGletter.jpg

Since then I have learned some things:
The block being cast in January is normal.
When I took the paint off the frontpad I found that &quot;T0528MO&quot; was a restamp. But the partial VIN is not, so it is the original block.
The partial VIN on the trans looks strange from above. Needs to be checked thoroughly.
I didn´t know about all the June-built Camaros being stamped with 06A on the trimtag. I have been told that the body came from Fisher on June 20th and that the car was sent to lot on June 24. So the builddate on the rearend is ok.

[PeteLeathersac]

Cool info Anders!.

VIN 124379N661631

Being the real deal, the seller could benefit from the auction house posting more info!.
Could the weak info be on purpose...and part of a new auction trend for the real cars?.

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~ Pete

[COPO_Anders]

Here are some pics. I sent the important ones to CRG last year.

Part of page 59 in what I believe is the first COPO Connection Source Book. On the top it says &quot;VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS&quot; &quot;DOCUMENTED 9561 CARS&quot;. It says &quot;BERGER AND L-72&quot; above these VIN´s
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/CopoConnectionpage59VIN661631.jpg

Swedish VIN-tag.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/CopoConnectionVINtag2.jpg

Partial VIN on upper part of cowl. The guy who owned the car before me never protected this partial VIN so I have driven the car in rain not knowing it would result in rusting the area.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/COPO-N661631cowlstamp4.jpg

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/COPO-N661631cowlstamp3.jpg

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/COPO-N661631cowlstamp1.jpg

Bodytag.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/CopoConnectionbodytag.jpg

Partial VIN on engineblock.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/COPO-N661631EngineVINstamp.jpg

BE-rearend.
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/COPO-N661631BEcodestamp.jpg

[COPO_Anders]

N661631 body damage.

Remember, it´s been a year since I sold the car and since last summer since I last saw it. So I don´t know if anything has been done with it since then.
My intention was to patch the car up rather than to change all the sheetmetal. I had two reasons for this. First: if I made a mistake patching up a fender someone else could always change the whole fender in another restoration years later. Second: I wanted to retain as much of the original sheetmetal as possible.
I consider the car to be pretty solid but there is still rust in many places.
It seems to have been in a couple of fenderbenders over the years. The better part of the right rearfender was probably replaced before it left the USA in the seventies. By then it was painted yellow/green I have been told. Here in Sweden the wife of the first owner drove to far out in a crossing and was hit slightly on the left frontfender. It was straightened but not perfectly. The dash and surrounding area is of course rusty since the original VIN-tag is gone. The hood had hoodpins at one point, but the holes have been welded shut. Both frontfenders have rust issues behind the wheels. There is rust in the lower front area of the doorskins. The front of the roof has to be checked. Both rear wheelwells have been changed once, and there is rust in the front part of both fenders. It sounds like it needs a lot of work, but I still consider it a good project having the original engine and BE-rearend. With the car I also sold a set of five correctly dated XT-wheels and a correctly dated gooseneck radiator. I assume it goes with the car.

In the pics below taken around 1984 you can se the area on the left frontfender that was hit in the crossing. You can also see a rusthole in the frontfender behind the wheel and the rear wheelwell that had been changed.

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq85/COPO_Anders/MinCOPO.jpg

[COPO_Anders]

If anyone here buy the car, just send me an e-mail and I´ll send you some pics that where taken in the 80´s.

[acelr8]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO_Anders</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If anyone here buy the car, just send me an e-mail and I´ll send you some pics that where taken in the 80´s. </div></div>
I would but your box is full. Car headed to MO.Jeff

[jannes_z-28]

Guess you bought it then?

Congrats!


I have some images of it too, send me a notice and I mail them to you.

Jan

[ZLP955]

Know this is an old thread, but the car has been listed for sale on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/301456798701 and a VIN search pulled up this thread.

[COPO_Anders]

I have been told that the NCRS historical documents shows that it was ordered by Kitson Chevrolet Eatontown, NJ. Not Malcolm Konner as was believed before.

[COPO_Anders]

Here is the list of owners for 9N661631 that I have found in my researched:

April 2 1976, got into the Swedish system. I have the original swedish registration document (typintyg).
April 7 1976, registered to Haga Bilforum AB, Stockholm, the company that imported this COPO 9561.
July 21 1976, Lennart Wittlock, Södertälje (close to Stockholm). Later moved to Ohs outside Värnamo (close to where I live).
June 24 1981, Sven-Ingmar Ekman, Lammhult.
June 14 1982, Thomas Karlsson, Eksjö. Drove the car up through Norway on his vacation and sold it immediately after returning home because of the poor mpg.
August 5 1982, Mikael Samuelsson, Skövde.
June 21 1983, Michael/Torbjörn Jansson, Arboga. He signed the receipt with Michael when buying the car and with Torbjörn when selling it !!
Sept. 25 1984, Claes Erixon, Kungsör. Could not understand the MO code on the engine but found the partial VIN on it and realized what he had bought.
Sept. 5 1998, Anders Stålklint, Gislaved. Bought XT-Wheels, curved neck radiator and other parts for the restoration of this COPO.
February 6 2010, Göran Landelius, Strängnäs. Thought he could make some serious money selling it in the USA.
February 2011, Jeff Dickey, MO