current market of yenko camaros and chevelles..

[black69]

With the recent sale of the gold yenko camaro (which I heard was a perfect no issues car) for $175K, is the true market for all really nice restored yenko camaros should be estimated as 'greater than $150K but not too much more than $200K?'

After sellers commissions that gold car had to net something in the $160s I would think.

I am just surprised considering I thought these cars were around $250K not too long ago.

[Charley Lillard]

Would you trade your black Camaro for a gold one ?

[427TJ]

The car guy on HD Theater says muscle cars, in the auction-profit context, have peaked and are on the down side...

Discuss.

[1969z280]

Cars without their original drive-trains do not fetch top dollar. Great cars still bring great money. JMO, Ed

[sixtiesmuscle]

What "guy" said that, and, what year was the program? Their replays are often from '07 & '08, so, I would agree with that statement back then. Every quote I've heard on auction shows lately has been the opposite. Things are looking up.

[black69]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would you trade your black Camaro for a gold one ? </div></div>

hum.....nope.

BUT

I do like a gold yenko camaro(especially if it had a black top) and it had black stripes.

No issue at all with gold. I would put some vintage american torque thrusts on it that have that ever so slight tint of gold on the wheel spokes like I have seen on some vintage Baldwin and Nickey cars.

Here is a link to some wheels that could look cool on a gold yenko:


http://corvettes-musclecars.com/gallery2...seIII3.JPG.html (http://corvettes-musclecars.com/gallery2/v/al_chevrolet/1969+Baldwin+Motion+Phase+III+RS-SS+Camaro+427/69+PhaseIII3.JPG.html)

[Mr Yenko]

Considering that i looked at that car before it was restored. And there was NOTHING left to the DRIVETRAIN at ALL. Now hunting down a dated drive train and ALL the parts to go with it. The only thing the car had going for it was &quot;GOLD&quot;. Only 10 four speeds cars made. But i know what he wanted for it and price of parts and restoration into that car. Wow that must have been a costly......
The &quot;MOF&quot;

[black69]

ok, so maybe a revision is needed:

150-200K if non ideal color (even if rare) and non original driveline?

200-300K with good color and original engine?

I think I answered my own question. I did not know the gold car had non original driveline. I heard it was a well known car.

[mockingbird812]

Kind of hard to boil the market down to just a couple of variables. Might consider these too (does not necessarily only apply to a Yenko, IMO):

1. Provenance
2. Documentation (none, a bit, a lot) dealership docs, factory docs, owners docs (i.e vintage photos, log books, trophies, etc.)
3. Ownership history
4. Quality of restoration work
Pre &amp; during resto photos are a plus
5. Parts: Original vs. NOS (factory ass'bly line vs. vintage over the counter vs. GM still makes the part) vs. repop (the term, NOS, is very much misused).
6. Original sheet metal
7. Delivering dealership is important to some (may or may not bring more $ though)
8. Race history
9. Transmission/rear gears (i.e. M22 vs. M20 or manual vs. auto; factory 4.56 gears vs 3.73)
10. Original survivor is very popular and in many cases brings higher $ than a great resto.
11. Unusual factory or dealer installed (documented) options
12. Over all rarity (considering desirabilty of course)

[sYc]

Do not judge the value of Yenkos on that one particular sale. There were a several buyers interested in the Gold Yenko, a couple who were willing to go 250, maybe more, but they were told by the seller that it would take more then that to buy it, so they did not bother to bid

[Charley Lillard]

The color did not look Olympic gold. It looked too light. Small issue I saw was the GM parts label still on the gas tank. They did not come off the assembly with parts # stickers on them. That is fixable in about a minute. The buyer doesn't even like the color but bought it because nobody else was stepping up and it was a Nicely done Yenko. He has tucked it in a corner of his collection and makes jokes about the color.I know other buyers there that did not bid because they had no interest in that color. I knew of the car for years as there was a guy on AOL by the name of Synthetic oil that his Dad left it to him. He got into legal trouble and sold it to pay attorneys.

[Mr Yenko]

Just love all the stories that you hear of a car. Going have to look at my old pictures of that car when i was up there crawling around and under it. Took 2 trips up there and meet with Steve and the countless hours back and fourth on the phone with him, had some cool old stories of that car.
The &quot;MOF&quot;

[black69]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sYc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do not judge the value of Yenkos on that one particular sale. There were a several buyers interested in the Gold Yenko, a couple who were willing to go 250, maybe more, but they were told by the seller that it would take more then that to buy it, so they did not bother to bid </div></div>

Wasn't this a no reserve auction? answer = yes. So what difference does it make what the seller said to a prospective buyer? Something does not add up in the above statement. I think one smart buyer stepped up and that was that, and got a good deal, helped provide a datapoint in the value market for yenkos (even with a gold color). Its still a rockin 4sp. Its still a fully restored yenko. And it sold for $175K.

[sYc]

What a seller does, or does not say to a potential buyer can make a huge difference in selling a car, any car, even a Yenko.

[Les Quam]

Black 69,
If you think that sale is now the market for 69 Yenko's please find me another one for sale.

[Salvatore]

Some of the high end cars were down it seemed to me. Maybe people are getting tired of spending big money for these lawn ornaments. I think you could buy a few real nice cars for $250,000 even $175,000 for that matter. JMO

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Les Quam</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Black 69,
If you think that sale is now the market for 69 Yenko's please find me another one for sale. </div></div>I guess you should have bought it Les. Seems like there have been a few Yenko's for sale lately. Maybe that is the market for these lawn ornaments lately.

[1969z280]

Don't forget he paid a 10% buyers commission, sales tax and shipping. By the time he got the car home, he was probably all-in for a little over $200K or the bottom end of the market price. The Milt Robson car brought $308 with the commission or the high end of the market. Two very different 1969 Yenko Camaros. JMO, Ed

[BARRY]

hi the price of these cars will be going down even more as les people want them look how much a hemi or a daytona have dropped a IDO NOT THINK IT WILL EVER COME BACK.... BABY BOMMERS