View Full Version : Approaching a "Musclecar hoarder",
skrail
04-01-2011, 03:18 AM
This is my first post on here.
My son and I are lurkers. My dilema...
since 1993, I ve known of a Musclecar Hoarder". He is a family friend who worked in junkyards since the early 70's.
Today, he let me take pictures of some of the treasures.
heres what I found..
1969 Chevelle ss396/ auto convert. Garnet red he says. been sitting since 85. sad shape
1969 Camaro, same situation Frost green/ green int.
!969 Chevelle coupe 307/ auto also red/ blk int.
Numerous big blocks, including CE block 1969 vintage
How do I post pics here?
The blocks are 212/518?/289 cast. that I saw.
One block is IU? I think he said 427/alum vette block
he has 409/425 hp motor, 413 long ram
numerous t-10s. like I said, I have pics.
the cars are full of BBC heads.
he has all the cranks, and a half semi full of BBC parts and muscle car trim.
skrail
04-01-2011, 03:21 AM
I should also add. When he was a kid, he talked his mother into buying a Nova 396/ 4 speed from Berger, in Grand Rapids.
He still has it. Says the Emblems were never put on it. Has orig title, and paperwork, of course, its in da mud too
scuncio
04-01-2011, 04:00 AM
Send me an email with the pics and I will post them. My address is
[email protected].
Tony
bad1racing
04-01-2011, 04:03 AM
skrail,I would like to see the stash if he would let anyone see them.Really like to see the Berger car.Sounds like alot of hoarders "gonna get to them one of these days".Being that I work there it would be a blast to have a Berger car with paperwork.If you want you can private message me.
Let me know.
Kendall <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif
skrail
04-01-2011, 04:25 AM
I opened a facebook link, I hope it works
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=285996&id=539007902&saved
WILMASBOYL78
04-01-2011, 04:37 AM
So...is this just a photo sharing event for us enthusiasts or a pre-sale promotion..?? Welcome to the SYC...
wilma <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif
skrail
04-01-2011, 06:04 AM
I have no idea if hes wanting to sell
Last time he asked me to sell some E-bay stuff for him. He needed quick cash. Today he mentioned a Harley he wanted.
I should note...He lives in a 12X24 foot addition, actually, its a porch added to a large older chicken coop.
His electric is an extention cordd, ran from his parents, water same way, buried under ground, no hot water
wood stove for heat..theres an ol indian motorcycle and his Harley in there with him. He has quite an array of guns..eeek..Trusts no one!!! on disability. and hes 52 yrs old. Youd never know he is there, kinda modern day hermit. BUT, he knows what he has, and where it is. I l ltry to get more pics of his " home" . I plow his 2 track drive in the winter, hes jus tmy friend. If he chooses to sell, I ll let you all know first! Like UI said, my son and I read here every day. Someday, we'll have our dream 69 Camaro! Until then, I work in hopes of sending them to college
ssl78396
04-01-2011, 07:34 AM
Hmmm...
This sounds like a movie I believe we have all seen.
http://bit.ly/2Lx7HX
al8apex
04-01-2011, 05:21 PM
looks like they are all too far gone already ...
that Nova shell is the Berger car?
if so AND it ever gets sold I am sure it will come back to an auction in the future being a "low mile one owner original" ... just like the RG RS Z28 from a couple of years ago did ...
69hurstSC
04-01-2011, 08:39 PM
Those would make some great "Cars in Barns" pics.
brent396
04-02-2011, 03:31 PM
I think thoase blocks are seasoned <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif
x Baldwin Motion
04-02-2011, 04:17 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those would make some great "Cars in Barns" pics. </div></div>
They may have actually made great cars if they were kept in barns. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif
I only see a steering wheel to use on the kids go-Kart and flat bottom skiff that may float. Everything else looks like worthless junk and boat anchors.
Sorry. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif I am driving junk, so I know!
resto4u
04-02-2011, 04:48 PM
I have seen alot worst. I have built engines looking like that with no problems.
njsteve
04-02-2011, 04:51 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: resto4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have seen alot worst. I have built engines looking like that with no problems. </div></div>
They call that "seasoning" the block by letting it sit out in the weather for a decade or two. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif
x Baldwin Motion
04-02-2011, 05:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: resto4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have seen alot worst. I have built engines looking like that with no problems. </div></div>
They call that "seasoning" the block by letting it sit out in the weather for a decade or two. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif </div></div>
I was just trying to discourage "a situation" <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif
<span style="font-style: italic">He lives in a 12X24 foot addition, actually, its a porch added to a large older chicken coop.
His electric is an extention cordd, ran from his parents, water same way, buried under ground, no hot water, wood stove for heat..theres an ol indian motorcycle and his Harley in there with him. He has quite an array of guns..eeek..Trusts no one!!!</span>
Fast67VelleN2O
04-02-2011, 06:57 PM
Alot of those parts (blocks, etc) are probably shot. Full of water over the years etc. Doesn't look like there is too much $$$$$ there.
skrail
04-02-2011, 11:03 PM
Heres the latest. hes going to get block numbers off motors. and we ll bring them here to my barn. Hes decided that even if cars are junk, the parts can live on...So, I guess I ll be the caretaker of these projects. As fer the Berger, he thinks its too far gone. I mentioned the whole cloning, rebody thing. He said, it was his "baby", and hed rather cut it up, vin/ tags title and all, than to have it " bastardized...We do know one of the 427 is a IU code. it has bosses by the oil filter. the CE block is a 1969, and the others are 396/402/427 blocks.
theres also a 2 hi po 409`s, a lo po 409, lots of finned BBC valve covers. and he thinks, 30 plus pair of BBC heads. My 15 yr old and I plan on getting this stuff out of the barns and semi trucks ASAP..He trusts me, and wants the parts to live on...not cloned...I could use ANY ADVISE here...hes a lil touched in the head, these parts deserv e good homes. So, we ll try to clean them up and tag everything. I understand some of your concerns on it being junk, and concern of cloning, rest assured, the cars will be parted out before cloning or mis representing them will happen.
skrail
04-02-2011, 11:07 PM
I m just tryin to help him out and save as much as we can. I cannot afford a Yenco, or my dream 1969 Camaro right now, Id prefer to put 2 boys thru college. Maybe I can help someone find the needed parts to keep these classics alive. We went to the muscle car show in Chicago and drooled..You guys put on a grea tshow, and lots of advise on here.
Scott
Verne_Frantz
04-02-2011, 11:30 PM
Scott, When the time comes, if you post the casting numbers, casting dates and stampings from the 409s, I can help properly identify them so they can be accurately described when the time comes to sell. Also, the completeness of each motor is very important in determining a fair value.
Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
Kurt S
05-02-2011, 05:28 PM
Post up pics of the engine pads and we can help ID the blocks.
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