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russgt
04-16-2011, 07:08 AM
Hi guys, I've been searching for my dad's old LS6 for a while and in a stroke of luck the 3rd owner had the build sheet and its in awesome shape. My dad was the original owner and My trail ends in 1983 with a guy from St Charles IL who bought it. Check out the sheet and tell me what you think!
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250499_10150194883120906_511410905_7422487_8038267 _n.jpg

Postsedan
04-16-2011, 10:16 AM
Go here...... http://ls6registry.com/

Call Rick Nelson here......http://www.musclecarrestorationanddesign.com/index.htm

Good Luck,

Dan

L89DRMR
04-16-2011, 02:26 PM
Hi Russ,

Nice find! I hope you locate the car.

Dave

William
04-16-2011, 04:18 PM
Hult Chev was not a well-known dealer but was part of the Yenko network. My research shows they sold 6 Yenko Camaros. I was chasing a JL-8 car some years ago; also came from Hult. By then the former owner was working at another dealership so I visited with him. No paperwork from the old store so I passed on the JL-8 car. He told me 3 of the 6 Yenko Camaros were totaled within a few years.

SS427
04-16-2011, 07:36 PM
Thanks Dan. I have been helping Russ for a couple months now and thought I might have found the trail twice but no such luck and the search continues.

russgt
04-16-2011, 08:27 PM
Thanks guys and especially to you, Rick. I really appreciate the help. I am going to continue working on finding the guy and seeing where that trail leads me. The 3rd owner not only had the build sheet, but also has the protect-o-plate and all the original info from when the car was bought. heres a picture of the car in late 1970.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/148246_475142665905_511410905_6301530_3685567_n.jp g

mockingbird812
04-16-2011, 08:42 PM
Nice shot Russ. Good luck with your search. Your Dad already had beefier rear tires on it in this shot!

69 Post Sedan
04-16-2011, 09:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hult Chev was not a well-known dealer but was part of the Yenko network. My research shows they sold 6 Yenko Camaros. I was chasing a JL-8 car some years ago; also came from Hult. By then the former owner was working at another dealership so I visited with him. No paperwork from the old store so I passed on the JL-8 car. He told me 3 of the 6 Yenko Camaros were totaled within a few years. </div></div>

I have a friend that worked at Hult Chevrolet back then. He said he remembers 3 white 1969 Yenko Camaro's with black stripes right next to each other.

Kurt

Born30YrsLate
04-16-2011, 10:55 PM
White?...wasn't a 69 Yenko Camaro color...

69 Post Sedan
04-16-2011, 11:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Born30YrsLate</div><div class="ubbcode-body">White?...wasn't a 69 Yenko Camaro color... </div></div>

Hmmmmmm I need to get back with him on that. I may have missuderstood him or he was mistaken. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/blush.gif

Kurt

442w30
04-17-2011, 12:16 AM
Wasn't the Douglass Yenko white? So could Hult be one of those cars?

sYc
04-17-2011, 12:50 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wasn't the Douglass Yenko white? So could Hult be one of those cars? </div></div>

No. Long story.

russgt
04-17-2011, 01:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice shot Russ. Good luck with your search. Your Dad already had beefier rear tires on it in this shot! </div></div>

Yeah, He put a pair of L60s on it pretty quick after he bought it.

Mr.Nickey Nova
04-17-2011, 02:55 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hult Chev was not a well-known dealer but was part of the Yenko network. My research shows they sold 6 Yenko Camaros. I was chasing a JL-8 car some years ago; also came from Hult. By then the former owner was working at another dealership so I visited with him. No paperwork from the old store so I passed on the JL-8 car. He told me 3 of the 6 Yenko Camaros were totaled within a few years. </div></div>

I thought i read and was told that Hult Chevrolet was known for selling it's share of performance cars back in the day.My survivor L34 Nova supposably was purchased there by the original owner also.

70 Forest Green Zee
04-17-2011, 03:00 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Born30YrsLate</div><div class="ubbcode-body">White?...wasn't a 69 Yenko Camaro color... </div></div>


Tell that to John Platainia....he owned an original &quot;white&quot;Yenko Camaro

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/rmitch120/tn_DSCF0374-1.jpg

sYc
04-17-2011, 03:08 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 Forest Green Zee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Born30YrsLate</div><div class="ubbcode-body">White?...wasn't a 69 Yenko Camaro color... </div></div>


Tell that to John Platainia....he owned an original &quot;white&quot;Yenko Camaro </div></div>

John owned a White Jack Dougalss COPO, with the Yenko stripes added (not by Yenko).

70 Forest Green Zee
04-17-2011, 02:31 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sYc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

John owned a White Jack Dougalss COPO, with the Yenko stripes added (not by Yenko). </div></div>



I don't believe that this is a true statement, John's car was a Real Yenko Camaro sold through Jack Douglas Chevrolet. Here is John's add when he put the car up for sale in the cars for sale section:


John's add

For sale is one of only two white 1969 Camaro’s to be sold as a Yenko. This Yenko has 39k original miles it still retains the original trans, rear end, sheet metal, and interior.
The engine is a correct matching number restoration engine but is not the original one to the car. The block was a correct 512 427 4 bolt block dated B19. The assy date is T0321MN 840 heads, 499 distributor, 837 alternator, 164 carb. Original 163 intake complete correct smog setup. The motor was professionally balanced and rebuilt last year and has less than 500 miles on it
The trans is the original matching number M21 trans that came with it from the factory. The linkage is rebuilt and the bell housing is a correct 621 11 in the clutch was new when the engine was rebuilt.
The rear end is the original BE 4:10 12 bolt that the car came with from the factory. The original 4 leaf rear springs are also still there it also has a set of traction bars.
The body is one of the nicest original body panel 1969 Camaro I have ever seen. There was never any patches or rust on this car. The quarters floors trunk and dash are the originals and never replaced.
The interior has its original front and rear seats,door panels, headliner, dash assy, 140 speedo, tach center fuel gauge. The carpet has been replaced along with a GM replacement dash pad.
The options this Yenko came with COPO 9561 L72 performance unit, COPO 9737 sports car conversion, endura bumper, chambered exhaust, tach, center fuel gauge, soft ray tinted glass, X11 style trim, AM radio and vinyl top.
This Douglass Yenko is documented by Ed Cunneen, Jack Douglass and Don Yenko. I will post documents by all three.
The price is 265k or reasonable offer. Will consider partial trades up to 75k. Please Email me for more detailed pictures.

John
04-17-2011, 03:23 PM
Was his car in the &quot;First batch&quot;?

I believe this explains it.....

.....The first batch of 69 Yenkos at Douglass came from Yenko Chevrolet. They had the bowties removed. The balance were Douglass ordered COPOs with Yenko graphics applied by Douglass. They broke the mold on the &quot;Yenko base car&quot; They ordered colors other than the 6 Yenko colors. They might have ordered other interiors than the 711 standard black. I was not aware that the JD cars had the bowtie.

....These cars that were ordered by Jack Douglas as COPO cars and had the stipes applied at Jack Douglas.... they never went thru the Yenko Dealership. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

sYc
04-17-2011, 03:29 PM
Randy, I stated that the stripes were not added by Yenko, you say that is incorrect, so please point out to me in John’s description where it states that the Yenko stripes were added by Yenko Chevrolet, Canonsburg.

DaleM
04-17-2011, 04:08 PM
The LS6 is now in the LS6 Registry (http://ls6registry.com) and there's info on the orphaned page seeking more information on owners.

mockingbird812
04-17-2011, 06:09 PM
Gr8 Service u provide Dale. Thanks! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

russgt
04-18-2011, 12:05 AM
thanks Dale!

black69
04-18-2011, 05:25 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hult Chev was not a well-known dealer but was part of the Yenko network. My research shows they sold 6 Yenko Camaros. I was chasing a JL-8 car some years ago; also came from Hult. By then the former owner was working at another dealership so I visited with him. No paperwork from the old store so I passed on the JL-8 car. He told me 3 of the 6 Yenko Camaros were totaled within a few years. </div></div>

According to the original owner of my camaro, my car was sitting with 3 yenko camaros in the Hult dealership on the showroom floor (from june to october). That dealership supplied a lot of cool stuff back in the day (he received the first over the counter L88 (in wisconsin) for putting in his race car there). I talked with one of their old part counter guys there and he said most of their customers wanted the 427 engine (a pure copo w/o yenko affiliation)and could care less about a car being a yenko. Yenko had the dealership constrained (according to him) that they could not sell a 427 around the yenko dealer license. The dealership told the owner of my car to bore out the L78 block and you have a something close to 427 copo but it looked better (it had everything else on it, they ordered it that way, the zl-2 hood, M21, 4:10, HD cooling).

I think Hult (thorstat) was a pretty significant musclecar dealership in wisconsin in my opinion, versus being little known. I need to check the yenko chevelle list, I think more than a few of those were sold there if you check it, could be wrong.

al8apex
04-18-2011, 05:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: russgt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks guys and especially to you, Rick. I really appreciate the help. I am going to continue working on finding Chuck McCormick and seeing where that trail leads me. The 3rd owner not only had the build sheet, but also has the protect-o-plate and all the original info from when the car was bought. heres a picture of the car in late 1970.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/148246_475142665905_511410905_6301530_3685567_n.jp g </div></div>

the next wave of Day 2 additions HAS to be the stainless steel mud flaps

My 70 Z28 had them on it when I bought it in 1977.

I remember them everywhere ...

RAIIIT/A
04-18-2011, 07:01 PM
The car wasn't even a year old and already had the rear tires replaced (LOL)... The front tires still look almost new.

mockingbird812
04-18-2011, 07:04 PM
My Nova had them too...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/70%20Roof%20Deuce/As%20Discovered/DSCF8812.jpg

PeteLeathersac
04-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Welcome aboard Russ!.

Regardless of build sheet info, is it sure this car was delivered new as a Hult or Thorstad car?.
Also regarding the 608 Washington address noted on the build sheet, was either the Hult or Thorstad dealership ever operating at this address or was it perhaps a billing address/offices?.

Best of luck finding your Dad's LS6!.
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3024/2898694763_d1902e2201.jpg
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Zone # 61
Dealer # 297
Dealer Name: Hult Chevrolet, Inc.
Address: 11011 W. North Ave.
City: Madison
State: WI
Zip: 53226

* Name changed to Thorstad Chevrolet in September 1970 when they moved to 1702 S. Park St.
Clarence Thorstad bought Hult Chevrolet in 1965, but Chevrolet wouldn't let them change the name until they built a new building (info from NCRS Site)

Zone # 47
(Prev. Zone 11?)
Dealer # 628

Dealer Name: Thorstad Chevrolet
Address: 1702 S. Park St.
City: Madison
State: WI
Zip: 53714

resto4u
04-18-2011, 08:26 PM
Hult was at 608 east washington ave. That is 100% correct. Thorstad was on park st. That other address is false. zip code is way off. That other one is milwaukee, and might have been humphry, but not hults.

69L78
04-18-2011, 08:36 PM
Humphrey's was 53208.

russgt
04-18-2011, 11:25 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: al8apex</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: russgt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks guys and especially to you, Rick. I really appreciate the help. I am going to continue working on finding Chuck McCormick and seeing where that trail leads me. The 3rd owner not only had the build sheet, but also has the protect-o-plate and all the original info from when the car was bought. heres a picture of the car in late 1970.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/148246_475142665905_511410905_6301530_3685567_n.jp g </div></div>

the next wave of Day 2 additions HAS to be the stainless steel mud flaps

My 70 Z28 had them on it when I bought it in 1977.

I remember them everywhere ... </div></div>


HA HA, you know I have probably looked at that photo a 1,000 times and never realized that those where on there.

russgt
04-18-2011, 11:37 PM
[quote=PeteLeathersac]Welcome aboard Russ!.

Regardless of build sheet info, is it sure this car was delivered new as a Hult or Thorstad car?.
Also regarding the 608 Washington address noted on the build sheet, was either the Hult or Thorstad dealership ever operating at this address or was it perhaps a billing address/offices?.

Best of luck finding your Dad's LS6!.
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

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Dad always said he bought the car from thorsads. This car sat on the lot until august of 1970 when dad bought it and according to the salesman, was the last LS6 that they had because the 71s were coming in. Dad wanted to buy a new car in 69 and went to the dealership and swears that they had 10 yenkos (camaros and chevelles) on the lot, but he didn't quite have enough money saved to buy a camaro. He waited till 70, looked at a yenko duece, but since he is 6'3&quot; couldnt really fit in it. The dealership's demo chevelle has a blue/white top/white interior, LS6, 4 speed, convertible. He fell in love and went back a few weeks later, but the green chevelle was all that was left.

black69
04-19-2011, 03:48 AM
you know last year I had a car that pulled up behind me while putting racing fuel in the camaro (not too many places to get it around here). It was just like your car, it was all original. Same exact place your trail went cold according to your original post, which is unbelievable. If it pops up again I will get his number for you. It may still be in the area.

russgt
04-19-2011, 04:37 AM
That would be awesome! I know that the guy that I am looking for still lives in Geneva, IL, but I havent had much luck getting him to return my phone calls.

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
04-19-2011, 05:21 AM
What color was the Deuce that he sat in?

black69
04-19-2011, 05:15 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: russgt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That would be awesome! I know that the guy that I am looking for still lives in Geneva, IL, but I havent had much luck getting him to return my phone calls.</div></div>

just so you know, geneva and st charles are virtually the same town over here.

russgt
04-19-2011, 11:12 PM
Ok, good to know. The 3rd owner showed me the guys business card which said he worked for carbco in St. charles, but that card was from 1983. An search of the net shows that he now has a real estate business in geneva. I will ask dad about the nova that he looked at.

John
04-20-2011, 01:06 AM
...Did you see this one....
....but the interior is different <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

http://www.nickeychicago.net/vehicle.php?id=119

XXXGoldL34M20
04-20-2011, 05:21 AM
thats a neat photo of that fathom green LS6.
why did your dad put those mud flaps on the car?
to protect the paint?
Good luck in your search.

mockingbird812
04-20-2011, 06:49 AM
Believe that is <span style="font-style: italic">Forest</span> Green. The mud flaps were very popular in Ohio. What with studded snow tires, all kinds of things were flung up off the road....including the <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">road</span></span>.

69hurstSC
04-20-2011, 04:06 PM
Very cool car. How long did your dad own it?

al8apex
04-20-2011, 08:03 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thats a neat photo of that fathom green LS6.
why did your dad put those mud flaps on the car?
to protect the paint?
</div></div>

They did protect the paint, lots of people still lived on dirt roads back then

The flaps did a good job of protecting the area around where they were but if driven a lot on dirt roads the area AROUND got peppered as well ...

My 70 Z28 had them on it when I bought it, I suspect they were added when the car was painted in 76 or so ...

I kept them on because this is what I did with the car at least once a month ...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/JimRohn/70z/70zbtrfhillsa.jpg

Here is a picture of what occurs (my L34 Z11, I used that before I got the 70 Z28):

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/JimRohn/71z/69paceautox77.jpg

after I painted my car black (from Forest Green), I got the black rubber/vinyl kind:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/JimRohn/70beatrfb.jpg

SuperNovaSS
04-20-2011, 08:26 PM
Awesome!

russgt
04-20-2011, 10:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69hurstSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very cool car. How long did your dad own it? </div></div>

My Dad bought in new in aug. of 70 and kept it till around july of 72 when he got married. He sold it to my uncle who kept it till 78. The 3rd owner was from 78 till 83. He blew up the motor not long after buying it and the car was somewhat parted, but the 4th owner spent alot of money tracking down and buying back all the parts.

russgt
06-03-2011, 12:30 AM
Why do some of the cowl induction cars have the &quot;cowl induction&quot; emblems and some do not? My dads car did not, but I have seen other 70s that had it.

russgt
06-09-2011, 11:38 PM
GOOD NEWS!!!!!! I found the CAR! Turns out that It was restored in the mid 80s. Was sold and has been in storage for about 10 years with very few miles on the restore. I am trying to set up a time to go look at it and maybe get a few pictures. The owner has asked me not to give out his name as he has a few other rare cars that he doesnt want people to know about. (worried about theft)

mockingbird812
06-09-2011, 11:46 PM
Nice job! Keep us updated.

John
06-10-2011, 12:40 AM
..That is great.... and must be exciting for you.
...So How did you find it?

Keep us informed.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

mockingbird812
06-10-2011, 01:23 AM
Any chance you can snag this puppy back into the family?

russgt
06-10-2011, 02:58 AM
I lucked out and the previous owners of the cars kept track of who they sold it to. The guy that owns it now is pretty protective of it and the way it sounds the car is part of a collection that hasnt seen the light of day for at least 10 years. I am just hoping that I get the oportunity to look at the car but I know that I would not be able to afford to buy it back. But if I could, you betch ya I would try to buy it back!

John
06-10-2011, 03:03 PM
... If you have the build sheet

...that should get his interest up

...good luck <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

SS427
06-10-2011, 03:06 PM
Congrats Russ. Glad you found her.

AutoInsane
06-10-2011, 03:48 PM
Would love to see some pics of the collection!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

russgt
06-11-2011, 12:02 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Congrats Russ. Glad you found her. </div></div>

Thanks Rick, I appreciate the help. I know that you spent some time looking for it too, and I thank you for it.

SS427
06-11-2011, 12:26 AM
It was my pleasure. I love these cars and its always nice to bring one home for someone or just help with information.

Xplantdad
06-11-2011, 04:33 AM
Very cool!