1970 Olds 442 W-30 convertible four-speed

[HO455]

My good friend Lee Pearl just sent me an update on his beautiful & rare 1970 Olds 442 W-30 convertible four-speed. The car is currently undergoing a complete nut & bolt restoration at level-One restoration in Colorado. He said that they are using all NOS suspension exactly as original with oil impregnated treatment. Lee plans to unveil the car at the Oldsmobile Nationals in Reno Nevada. This car is probably the most or one of the most documented W-30s in the country. Lee has all the original documentation from birth including the original new car form dated from 1970 in California

This is such a neat car with such a great history it will be exciting to see it completed. Lee is pursuing the highest level of accuracy & detail on a truly historic car. I am very happy… I have gotten to know Lee as he is a great guy & one of the most knowledgeable, long time Oldsmobile performance collectors there is. As Lee said Gary from Level-One is a true artist & the perfect guy to do this car. Gary's Oldsmobile restorations are the finest in the country. I hope to have a chance to see the car in the near future.

Thanks Lee &amp; Gary for preserving such cool part of General Motor’s history for us automobile enthusiasts! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif


http://www.levelonerestoration.com/imageview.aspx?id=27

[Xplantdad]

Very nice! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[mockingbird812]

Beautuiful resto. Nice color combo. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[SS427]

Bring it to MCACN!!

[HO455]

I mentioned it to him so hopefully he will considerer it. Lee lives in California so I know it is a long way to travel. Rick your restorations are stunning. I love the LS-6 convertible in Misty Turquoise. What a cool car!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif

[Postsedan]

A very classic GM Muscle Car, thanks for sharing.

Dan

[442w30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HO455</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I mentioned it to him so hopefully he will considerer it. Lee lives in California so I know it is a long way to travel. Rick your restorations are stunning. I love the LS-6 convertible in Misty Turquoise. What a cool car!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif </div></div>

I think a RAIV Judge is superior to both. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[1969z280]

Why would you say that?

[442w30]

I said that because, by golly, I believe it. :-)

[SuperNovaSS]

It comes across like you are putting down this car for some reason. Strange thing to do escpecially in a thread that was started specifically to share the car with everyone.


Jason

[442w30]

Not sure how you'd infer I'm putting the car down when I never solicited a negative opinion, especially considering I own a similar car. Someone stated he also liked the LS6 ragtop, and I merely stated I like the Judge best of all.

[SuperNovaSS]

I must have misread the post. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


Jason

[Adam12]

I think it's just preference, eh? Personally I like the Mopar B-bodies. We all like different cars though so I'm not criticizing. Coming up at Mecum, this is Dark Gold Metallic (which makes it pretty rare), and it's a Hemi! I'm not against Oldsmobiles, but Hemis were in a different league.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=SC0511-110967

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&amp;Number=25857&amp;filename= 1971%20Hemi%20Charger.jpg

[442w30]

Tawny Gold (I think that's what Plymouth called it) isn't really rare. But the Hemi is!

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bring it to MCACN!! </div></div>

Gary is bringing an amazing and super rare color '69 Judge this year, and we have discussed several other possibilities.

For those who don't know, Gary brought the black RAIV GTO Judge convertible that was in our Class of 1970 convertible circle, and several of the Olds 442's in the Class of 1970 were also out of his shop in Colorado.

Great stuff indeed!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[1969z280]

Jason: I don't think you misread the post.

[jannes_z-28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HO455</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I mentioned it to him so hopefully he will considerer it. Lee lives in California so I know it is a long way to travel. Rick your restorations are stunning. I love the LS-6 convertible in Misty Turquoise. What a cool car!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif </div></div>

I think a RAIV Judge is superior to both. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif </div></div>

Don't forget the Buick GS Stage1 'Verts.

Jan

[442w30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jannes_z-28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Don't forget the Buick GS Stage1 'Verts.


</div></div>

I like those third, after the Judge and the Olds! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[RAIIIT/A]

If the Judge is so great... Then why do you go by name &quot;442W30&quot;? Just curious...

BTW - You do post as &quot;Joe Blow&quot; over on Classical Pontiac.... Right?

[442w30]

Yeah, that's me.

I own the Olds, hence my handle. I first fell in love with Pontiac, but I ended up with the Olds. Kinda automotively transgendered, if you will.

[agtw31]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam12</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Coming up at Mecum, this is Dark Gold Metallic (which makes it pretty rare), and it's a Hemi! I'm not against Oldsmobiles, but Hemis were in a different league.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=SC0511-110967

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&amp;Number=25857&amp;filename= 1971%20Hemi%20Charger.jpg </div></div>

i believe Charger is a former Welborn car?

i saw it over 20 years ago at a mopar meet in Birmingham

sign in front of the car said:
&quot;last Hemi made&quot;

[old5.0]

Isn't <span style="font-style: italic">every</span> 71 Hemi Charger a current or former Welborn car? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[njsteve]

He has one of mine so that makes it a former njsteve car. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[442w30]

Andy, I know there was one in that color in MCR years ago. I think the article even stated that Wellborn's father owned the car first.

[RM Schimel]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HO455</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I mentioned it to him so hopefully he will considerer it. Lee lives in California so I know it is a long way to travel. Rick your restorations are stunning. I love the LS-6 convertible in Misty Turquoise. What a cool car!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif </div></div>

I think a RAIV Judge is superior to both. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif </div></div>

The RAIV Judge is superior in what way? Is it the cheezy decal stickers or the notoriously fragile bottom end of the RAIV 400 Pontiac engine or is it both? RM <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[442w30]

Then let me rephrase it:

The Ram Air IV GTO is superior to both.

[mockingbird812]

Let the CONVINCIN' begin! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[RAIIIT/A]

I'd take a Stage 1 myself....

[Adam12]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RM Schimel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The RAIV Judge is superior in what way? Is it the cheezy decal stickers or the notoriously fragile bottom end of the RAIV 400 Pontiac engine or is it both? RM <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif </div></div>

Cheezy decal stickers? Guess your not a fan of Road Runners or Super Bees or most other muscle cars. What do YOU own, oh stuck up one? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif

[tom406]

&quot;One Adam 12, One Adam 12, we have an overreaction on page 3 of this thread.&quot;

The little emoticon on the end of RM's posting identifies this as a sarcastic jab, but all in good FUN. The modern musclecar market obviously prefers the stick on, groovy fun of Judge stripes and emblems, but let's not get too serious here. The Pontiac marketing folks were obviously playing fast and loose when they lifted that moniker from &quot;Laugh-In&quot;, right?

[Adam12]

Got it! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

I'm a Road Runner and Super Bee guy so I know a thing or two about &quot;groovy decals&quot;. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[RM Schimel]

I love em all!! I was just pulling the leg of the Pontiac Judge fella. RM <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[442w30]

My leg was being pulled?

[RM Schimel]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My leg was being pulled? </div></div>

You Betcha!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif RM

[LeeP]

I heard you were talking about my old Oldsmobile on this site and I appreciate the kind words. I bought the car in 1977 for $600 when nobody wanted gas hogs. I am very pleased to finally finish it. After great thought I picked Level One because of the caliber of their restorations. Gary is a true artist and a correctly restored classic car is a work of art.

Pontiac, Buick, Olds, Chrysler there are many great cars and we all have favorites. If I was able to buy a Hemi Cuda convertible 4 speed in 1977 for $600 I would really like that car too.

There were very few w-30 convertibles with documentation ordered with the aluminum w-27 rear end and 4 speed and I hope the people that see the car will enjoy seeing how oldsmobile fit in to the muscle car days of the 70s.

One of the most interesting things about the car is that it was ordered for California the only smog state at that time. The car has many unique features because of the smog requirements. Imagine the car running down the production line in Lansing where all the w-30 were made and a bunch of strange fuel lines, canister, hoses, special gas tank. It must have really confused the assembly people because most California cars were built in Fremont, CA. Just a side note that created some challenges during the restoration.

The original owner even ordered it with poverty caps so he could install some aluminum slotted mags. Like most of these cars the steel wheels went in the garage or trash and the original pictures of the car one month after it was purchased already show the new wheels. On Gary's site are some of the many original pictures of the car.

I think this is my first post so thanks for all of your comments.

Lee Pearl

[RAIIIT/A]

The good old days when you could buy a nice car for a good price. In 1976 my dad paid $750 for a nice 64 GTO convertible..... In 1985 I bought pretty decent '67 GTO with a 4 speed for $600 and drove it home. A friend has a '66 GS convertible that his dad bought in 1977 for $250.

BTW - Nice car.... cool you were able to hang onto it all those years.

[mockingbird812]

Welcome aboard Lee. You have a real beauty of a car with great history. Love the vintage photos. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[COPO_Anders]

Beautiful car Lee ! I love those ragtops. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

I friend of mine saw a W-30, W-27 convertible here in Sweden last year. I assume it was ordered that way but don´t know for sure. In the seventies many musclecars were bought on the East coast, in the pricerange you refer to, and were shipped over the pond. In later years some rare ragtops have found their way back to the U.S. I have a Hemi Challenger and a RAIV in mind.

[Tenney]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzBOsbcvOxk

[LeeP]

Tenney: I won't be doing that with my restored car but it is nice to see the olds passed the test in 1972.

Lee

[rich p]

That was a REAL thrill to watch!!! Guy was driving it like to stole it.. Just like we drove them back in the day...

[RM Schimel]

Lee… That is a beautiful automobile with an interesting history and color combination. The Olds 442 W-30 ragtops were such exceptional looking and all around performing autos. I am looking forward to seeing your car in person at one of the major events soon. I have seen many other W-machines restored by Gary and they have all been top flight! Welcome aboard &amp; wishing you the best! RM

[jannes_z-28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO_Anders</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Beautiful car Lee ! I love those ragtops. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

I friend of mine saw a W-30, W-27 convertible here in Sweden last year. .... I have a Hemi Challenger and a RAIV in mind. </div></div>

Have you forgotten your COPO already?

The 442 you're referring to is it the same one I have found. I know a 442 W27 coupe too not far form where I live.


Jan

[COPO_Anders]

Hi Janne !
No I haven´t forgotten about my COPO, I was just thinking about rare convertibles shipped back to the U.S.
Do you have anything else to tell us about the W-30,W-27 convertible you looked at ? Transmission ? Other options ?

[SmallHurst]

Good to see you on here Lee!!!!

I wish a set of my Polyglas could have made it onto that car!!!!!!!

Best of luck in Reno and I hope that you can have that car show up to MCACN.

[Charley Lillard]

Lee...Where are you in Ca ?

[jannes_z-28]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO_Anders</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you have anything else to tell us about the W-30,W-27 convertible you looked at ? Transmission ? Other options ? </div></div>

I just looked at it briefly a couple of years ago when writing my book. It is under restoration. The guy has the buildsheet somewhere at home, he said he should try to find it...

It has A/C and Auto. The original hood was damaged some time and the insurance company had someone make a new one and it isn't really looking like it should on the underside.
I am not 100% sure on the W27 rear, the whole axle is painted silver. It has been &quot;known&quot; for many years that this car has a Alu-rear.

Except that, the drivetrain is #matching and car is in good shape. I think he would sell if he got a good offer and it could be another one going back to the US. But the exchange rate is bad for us selling.

Jan

[LeeP]

The car made it to the 2011 Oldsmobile Nationals in Reno last week- Received the Best of Class Award and is now in my garage waiting for some owner sorting. It was fun to share the car with my Oldsmobile peers and I hope to make the Muscle Car Nationals in Illinois in November.

Lee

[LeeP]

I will try to figure out how to post a picture

Lee

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LeeP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will try to figure out how to post a picture

Lee </div></div>

Go here Lee! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=456147&amp;gonew=1# UNREAD

[HO455]

Congratulations Lee…I am really looking forward to seeing you and the W-30 at the November Muscle Car Nationals show in Chicago. I hope you are able to post some pics from the Olds Nationals. Take good care! John <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

[LeeP]

John: My wife is making a smilebox slide show that I will send you directly. There are some picture of the nationals at the classic oldsmobile site. Elliott Jaffe's old blue 1970 w-30 convt 4 speed was right next to me and was a nice car. Lee

http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/general-discussion/38124-reno-report-update-please.html

[oldzzy]

here ya go Lee, i think this is your car.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af111/DDS1958/OLDSMOBILE%20MEET/IMG_0802.jpg

[LeeP]

Nice picture, you even got me showing it off. Thanks for posting.

Lee

[HO455]

Lee…The car looks beautiful. Such a cool &amp; unique color! Thanks OLDZZY for posting the picture.

[oldzzy]

n/p but the pic isn't mine, i swiped it from someone else. I just wanted to help Lee get a pic up of his beautiful car!

[Charley Lillard]

Hey Lee !!! Check your private messages. Look toward the top of the screen for something blinking and click on it.

[LeeP]

Next show for my olds will be SEMA in November. Hope to meet some of you there.

Lee

[Charley Lillard]

I'll be at SEMA...

[LeeP]

I posted a couple low res pictures on classicoldsmobile.com. I hope it is ok to refer to another site. You will have to cut and paste the link below. It included much of the discussion during the restoration too. Lee


http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/majo...html#post320500 (http://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/major-builds-projects/31701-1970-442-convt-update-lee.html#post320500)

[LeeP]

Sue and I had a great time at the MCACN show in Chicago. We felt like part of the Supercar Registry Family. Car was well received and hopefully helped to show the beauty of a nicely restored oldsmobile. We were invited to the Detroit Autorama so the car will stay in Michigan until that show. Hope to see many of you again in a few months and meet some more of the members of this group too.

Lee Pearl gold 442 convertible

[Stefano]

Thanks for bringing your car the the event and congrats on your best of show Olds award. It was nice to meet you in person.

[LeeP]

Thanks Stefano: Lots of nice cars. I was honored to get that award and surprised too.

Lee

[442w30]

Lee, it was nice meeting you and your wife in Chicago.

[dl7265]

Nice meeting you Lee, and seeing your car. I had to catch a plane before you received your awards, Congrats. Apparently I got Concours Gold, Platinum Buick and Celebrity Choice.

Don
1970 Stage 1 vert

[LeeP]

Don, you have a great car. I had never seen a real buick stage I 4 speed vert. Lee

[Stefano]

That Buick is a very cool car too. Congrats on your well deserved award.

There was an original family owned '72 Stage 1 4 speed Convert in the VIP car for sale coral. That car is expected, to be included the class of '72 display for MCACN IV.

I think a good portion of all the '70 Stage I, 4 speed converts produced are located within a close radious of Rosemont!

[dl7265]

Thanks Lee and Stefano, I saw a 72 in the CC but it was an auto. The survivor '72 Stage vert you recently sold was a neat car. 1 of 1 in that color combo.



DL

[Stefano]

Thanks. I think all Stage 1 cars are special. Especially the rag tops and GSXs.

I missed the Auto Stage I in the VIP for sale coral?

However, there was a very original 27,000 orig. mile, 4 speed, blue/white/white one family owned Stage one convertible, documented by the Sloan Museum as one of only 9 non a/c 4 speed rags ever produced in 1972.

I also had a Kliner restored, Blue/white/white Canadian docs and build sheet '72 4 speed a few years back.

[LeeP]

My wife and I will be in Scottsdale next week for the auctions. Hope to see some of you. Lee

[Stefano]

Lots of the members are already here. See you soon.

[bashton]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LeeP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My wife and I will be in Scottsdale next week for the auctions. Hope to see some of you. Lee </div></div>

See you there, Lee, and again THANKS for being a part of MCACN and congrats on the well deserved awards.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[black69]

I really liked the 72 convert forsale, but the cracked original block scared me off. It was priced right. steering wheel was very puzzling. I spent a lot of time looking at that car, very cool and solid.

[dl7265]

I arrive Thursday afternoon , looking forward to the sunshine .


DL

[LeeP]

I will be a RS on Friday night with Elliot J. who is selling his very nice silver 1971 w-30 convertible auto with air and cruise control car. Fully documented car. Saturday I will spend the afternoon and evening at BJ. Bob, Charlie, Stefano, Don.....I will look for you. I will miss the blue 1970 w-30 convt 4 speed at BJ on Friday night. If someone could take a bunch of detailed pictures of the car for my files I would appreciate it.

Lee

[442w30]

Is the blue car documented other than non-# matching? What is its condition? Because it sold for a mild price.

[Charley Lillard]

The blue car looked very nice to me but I don't know what I'm looking at.

[STF455]

The blue '70 W-30 conv. belonged to a friend, very nicely restored car. I don't know what it has for docs but it is a real W-30 4spd, was surprised it didn't sell for quite a bit more. B-J estimated selling price was in the mid-$100's.

[dl7265]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: STF455</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The blue '70 W-30 conv. belonged to a friend, very nicely restored car. I don't know what it has for docs but it is a real W-30 4spd, was surprised it didn't sell for quite a bit more. B-J estimated selling price was in the mid-$100's. </div></div>
He had a build sheet and was hoping for 140+ . nice car . Even nom seems to be a ridiculous hit for 1/96 . perhaps had it gone Sat prime time .

DL

[LeeP]

I liked the blue car. It was one of the better buys of the auction. A documented 1 of 96 good color. I think the seller was shocked as were my olds friends. The re-bodied ZL1 went for good money and a rare olds that was admittedly non number matching engine with some heavy body work should have still broke well into the $100ks. But that is the hazard of the no reserve auction.

Note to Charlie.......you should have started the '55, it would have been worth another 200k.

Lee

[RM Schimel]

Interesting auction… I thought overall Oldsmobiles’ did well. The 1970 red &amp; white W30 ragtop auto put up a strong number at 220K with commission. A nice car but not a concours 100 point level car, although a great color combo. The blue 4spd car did not have definitive paperwork that I saw, and NOM hurt its valuation with collectors.

The 1966 L69 put up strong numbers for a non W-car. But it was a beautiful automobile w/interesting color!

Overall both auctions were fun with plenty to see and do! RM

[TimG]

The '71 orange/black W30 coupe that went through on Friday at BJ was very, very nice. I think it went for $75,000.

[Stefano]

What was there on the blue BJ 442 convertible to prove that it was indeed a 4 speed or W30 optioned Oldsmobile?

[RM Schimel]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What was there on the blue BJ 442 convertible to prove that it was indeed a 4 speed or W30 optioned Oldsmobile?
</div></div>

Stefano...Nothing that I saw! RM

[LeeP]

I like to use the phrase with my 70 w-30 convertible. It is one of 300 remaining of 96 built. I was told that blue car had a broadcast card but didn't talk to the owner or see the documentation.

Lee

[Stefano]

You guys do know that a certain parts vendor chased down the original MFG of the broad cast cards a while back. He secured original dated GM broad cast cards in bulk.

Started selling them on eBay blank, a few years ago.

Moral of the story. It takes more than just a broadcast card to authenticate special cars.

[RM Schimel]

Thanks Stefano…Unfortunately since the prices of the W30 ragtops climbed into the stratosphere within the last decade, the number of counterfeits followed suit.

Today, I would be very skeptical of a W-30 unless it was a Canadian sold car or has bulletproof documentation including an original window sticker and complete owner history. Almost every W30… I see for sale today, also includes a broadcast card. Sadly since the cards have been reproduced they are next to worthless to prove out authenticity.

It surely does make it very difficult for the Oldsmobile community to sift through the well done clones! RM

[LeeP]

I would agree except there is now even people that can create aged window stickers. Very few buyers kept the window stickers. Totally buyer beware. There are also a few of the old timers that know many of the cars from years ago before they were cloned. A buyer just bought the green 4 speed that Bruce B was selling. I can take that car back to Keith Kibbie 20+ years ago and it still has some original paint too and a broadcast card. Lee

[Stefano]

A '71 W30 Rag advertised as Bitter sweet color, actually looked like Sienna, popped up on eBay a few weeks ago with a great story, non descript pics and a buy it now of $65k.

It sold real fast. Spoke to the buyer, told me he got a nice W30 clone which needed a bunch of work , just to make it driveable.

[LeeP]

Always check with Paul M. on a 71 rag. He knows the 71s better than anyone. Lee

[dl7265]

Thanks for letting the Buick guy hang out with ya'll. Saw lots of nice Olds, including at pavilions. Kinda of off topic but where did the Olds microfiche go ? Sloan has 1/2 of 70, 72+ for Buick. '71 are still unaccounted for <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif.

DL

[LeeP]

I heard my car made it into Muscle Car Review. I need to get a copy today.

Lee

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dl7265</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for letting the Buick guy hang out with ya'll. Saw lots of nice Olds, including at pavilions. Kinda of off topic but where did the Olds microfiche go ? Sloan has 1/2 of 70, 72+ for Buick. '71 are still unaccounted for <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif.

DL </div></div>

Too bad we weren't able to meet up Don!

[dl7265]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LeeP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard my car made it into Muscle Car Review. I need to get a copy today.

Lee </div></div>
Congrats ! I'll have to find a copy!

DL

[Blackrat67]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LeeP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I heard my car made it into Muscle Car Review. I need to get a copy today.

Lee </div></div>
Yes it did Lee. Yours and my '71 W30 again! Congrats , and get out there and buy a copy!
Ed

[LeeP]

Got a copy Ed. Don's car should have been in that magazine. There sure were a lot of Oldsmobiles in that issue.

Lee

[dl7265]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dl7265</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for letting the Buick guy hang out with ya'll. Saw lots of nice Olds, including at pavilions. Kinda of off topic but where did the Olds microfiche go ? Sloan has 1/2 of 70, 72+ for Buick. '71 are still unaccounted for <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif.

DL </div></div>

Too bad we weren't able to meet up Don! </div></div>I know Bruce! , I may have a car out there for you to inspect/photograph though

[Xplantdad]

Let me know...I can help!

[LeeP]

I have returned to California after attending the Detroit Autorama with my car. My car will be home next week. The people of Michigan were friendly, partied like rock stars, loved their hockey team and cars. I was able to meet many nice people from the forums. Found an original owner 1970 w-30 convertible 4 speed guy and an original owner 1970 Black w-31 car too. They both beat me in the number of years they owned their cars by a few years. Still 33 years is a pretty good run with my car.

The response to my car was great. I met GM executives and people that built the cars for Oldsmobile in the 1970s. The most common comment is why are the fenderwells red plastic. I had a ball at the show. The Kryta brothers James and John can restore cars like nobody else and I got to be next to the green 1972 w-30 4 speed 2011 Autorama champion and a crazy great black GTO convertible belonging to John. I think the old bucket of bolts held her own and the three of us presented some of the finest restored cars around.

The Ansen Sprint wheels were received mixed by the crowd. Many didn't like the aluminum wheels in general, but when they understood that my car was presented day two as it spent its whole life they seemed to understand. The in the know loved the Ansen wheels and the vintage H60X14 series Goodyear Polyglas tires. When I told them I owned the tires for 35+ years and they were original they seemed to get it. The car looked great with the wide tire stance on the rear and taller tires on the front. Poverty caps were only used to get my car to the tire shop for the slotted wheels. I have been unable to post pictures on this site so if anyone got a shot of my car with the wheels please post here.

Thanks for the hospitality especially to the folks at Inline Tube that helped make a long trip to take my car back where it was born a great experience. I will now retire the car from the show circuit but feel I have shared a cool piece of Oldsmobile history with the people that enjoy muscle cars to this day. Lee

[Xplantdad]

Hey Lee...if you have pics...send them my way. I will post them for you! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[Xplantdad]

Here are Lee's pics of his beautiful Convertible 442! I remember those Hansel license plate frames. I was at that dealership about twice a week <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[SuperNovaSS]

Those wheels ended up on the right car!


Jason

[LeeP]

Thanks for selling them to me Jason.

Lee

[dl7265]

Lee,

The car looks fabulous! Congratulations on the award as well. I know you are anxious to get her home. That's probably the longest time it's spent away in 33 years .


DL

[markinnaples]

Very cool ride; really takes you back to the 70's when every Cutlass and 442 had a set of mags on it.

[olredalert]

-----Pretty much exactly the same wheel/tire combo I talked my brother into for his 70 W/30. Unfortunatly he chose dark green with black gut and dark green vinyl top. Nice car-bad combo IMO.....Bill S

[LeeP]

The lights in the convention center make my car look green but it is Galleon Gold, much nicer than the pictures make it look.

Lee

[TimG]

That's one of the prettiest hoods on earth........

[LeeP]

Here is a youtube video of the setup of the car. Lots of work and you can see all that Inline Tube did to help me have a successful show. I am the guy with his hands in his pockets in the shots. Haha.........Lee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3-abv5FZuk&amp;context=C343eeb2ADOEgsToPDskLcNKjL6r5LSGS VJY6T8uqL

[juliosz]

Oh yeah......that gave me my fix today.... again, beautiful car Lee..... still shaking my head over your purchase price in 1978.

Paul

[Xplantdad]

Very nice Lee!

[sambrutay]

Very nice. I really enjoyed seeing your car.

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx360/sambrutay/c915570a.jpg

[HO455]

Hi Lee-thanks for all your hospitality at the Muscle Car Nationals. It was great meeting you in person and seeing your beautiful car. It was a fun afternoon seeing so many cool cars on display. However, your W-30 stole the show IMHO. My brother Jim and the rest of my Oldsmobile gang had a great time also. I am glad you got to see Ed and Phil. They are definitely two of the old timers in the Olds hobby.

My friend Steve really enjoyed hearing about the history of your car. It was also very interesting for me to hear about the original point area on the rear 442 bumpers.

Anyway, thanks again &amp; I hope to see you next year. It sounds like the 1969 H/O convertible in going to be unveiled at the November 2012 show. I also hope James Kryta from Inline Tube has an Oldsmobile surprise for us in the future as well! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif

Take care! John

[LeeP]

John: Nice meeting you too. It has been a blast sharing this car with people that love these cars like you and others that had never knew or appreciated the roll Oldsmobile played during the muscle car era. The best part is knowing that I have been a good caretaker of this car for the last 35 years. I knew Level One Restoration had to restore my car and also knew that it needed to be out in public for others to enjoy. Heck even Charlie L. knows me and my car which is pretty cool. Lee

[whitetop]

Lee, car looks great with the wheels.. How did you restore them to get the correct machine finish shine/look?

[LeeP]

I decided to restore the wheel instead of polishing them. They were put on an original type mill and turned down. What I learned was the early aluminum wheels have air bubbles in the aluminum. These actually show when you look close up at the wheels. They would need to be clear-coated to eliminate the flaws. Lessons learned when doing a restoration. Lee

[whitetop]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LeeP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I decided to restore the wheel instead of polishing them. They were put on an original type mill and turned down. What I learned was the early aluminum wheels have air bubbles in the aluminum. These actually show when you look close up at the wheels. They would need to be clear-coated to eliminate the flaws. Lessons learned when doing a restoration. Lee </div></div>

Lee, just about all the wheels back then had air bubbles. Poor quality aluminum. From what I have seen, probably the most quality wheel back then and the manufacturer who used the best aluminum was Appliance.

There was an article on Fenton and how they would just take scrap aluminum of any type and melt it down-did not care what it came from or what the original purpose was. There are probably a zillion types of aluminum, quality from poor to aerospace.

Today wheel manufacturers use only brand new aluminum and it is all of one type. lot more quality control today..one reason why today's aluminum wheels can buff out like chrome.

[LeeP]

My car is going to be featured in Hemmings in the next few months, Restoration Feature in an issue on convertibles. I am pretty excited because my daughter was the person driving the car in the photo shoot. The story goes the car was always Rug's car (the original owner). When my daughter was born I put her in the car and said if she didn't cry the car was hers. She didn't cry and the car was renamed Maritte's car. 30 years later Hemmings came out and did a photo shoot with my 30 old daughter driving the car. I am pretty excited. Lee

[Xplantdad]

Congrats Lee! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[LeeP]

After almost 35 years of ownership my wife and I have decided to sell our precious 1970 Oldsmobile 442. Many of you have seen the car or followed it's progress. For those of you that don't know the car it is a bullet proof documented 1970 442 W-30 Convertible 4 speed and currently the only one known of the 96 originals ordered with the aluminum w-27 rear end.

For those of you that don't know me, I am just a regular car guy that bought a 1971 Oldsmobile in high school and has owned many since. At one time I had my three W-30 4 speed convertibles with a combined purchase price for all three of under $5,000 dollars. Those were the days!!!!

I bought this very special car in 1978 and it was placed strategically in my garage for almost 30 of those years. During that time I collected many of the NOS parts used for the restoration. A few years ago we decided we needed to restore the car back to its original glory. We saved and were able to hire Gary Riley at Level One Restoration. You can see pictures of the restoration at levelonerestoration.com. Many extra details were also included in the restoration such as the original Hansel Oldsmobile license frames and paper plates and California new car sticker.

I felt it was important to share the car as much as I could afford so it went to 4 auto venues including SEMA Las Vegas, the Oldsmobile Nationals in Reno, Muscle Car Nationals in Chicago and the Detroit Autorama. At the Detroit Autorama it was shown day two trim with vintage Ansen Sprint aluminum slotted rims and vintage original Goodyear polyglass g-70x14 on the front and h60x14 on the rear.

My wife and I do not want to auction the car so it will be listed for sale on various sites. It is a car that represents well the period of time of the 70s performance era and Oldsmobiles high water mark for one of it's best cars. I was very lucky to buy it in 1978 and to this day appreciate Robert Kasley's (the original owners) vision when he order the car, W-30, 4 speed, 3:91 W-27, poverty caps, rally pack, 8 track, no console....just perfect! Even the gold color was representative of the era with three different golds available in 1970. Red and Black may be more desired and popular but gold clearly stated the 1970 era best. Thanks for all your support during the restoration. My price will also be in the area of a high water mark for this type of car but some very recent private sales have been clearly within this price range. I will always have my 1971 442 M-22 convertible so I will not be bailing out of the hobby.

Tomorrow I plan to post a for sale ad on this site. I hope when the dust settles people will feel we were good caretakers of the car. Thanks Lee and Sue Pearl

[LeeP]

After almost 35 years of ownership my wife and I have decided to sell our precious 1970 Oldsmobile 442. Many of you have seen the car or followed it's progress. For those of you that don't know the car it is a bullet proof documented 1970 442 W-30 Convertible 4 speed and currently the only one known of the 96 originals ordered with the aluminum w-27 rear end.

For those of you that don't know me, I am just a regular car guy that bought a 1971 Oldsmobile in high school and has owned many since. At one time I had my three W-30 4 speed convertibles with a combined purchase price for all three of under $5,000 dollars. Those were the days!!!!

I bought this very special car in 1978 and it was placed strategically in my garage for almost 30 of those years. During that time I collected many of the NOS parts used for the restoration. A few years ago we decided we needed to restore the car back to its original glory. We saved and were able to hire Gary Riley at Level One Restoration. You can see pictures of the restoration at levelonerestoration.com. Many extra details were also included in the restoration such as the original Hansel Oldsmobile license frames and paper plates and California new car sticker.

I felt it was important to share the car as much as I could afford so it went to 4 auto venues including SEMA Las Vegas, the Oldsmobile Nationals in Reno, Muscle Car Nationals in Chicago and the Detroit Autorama. At the Detroit Autorama it was shown day two trim with vintage Ansen Sprint aluminum slotted rims and vintage original Goodyear polyglass g-70x14 on the front and h60x14 on the rear.

My wife and I do not want to auction the car so it will be listed for sale on various sites. It is a car that represents well the period of time of the 70s performance era and Oldsmobiles high water mark for one of it's best cars. I was very lucky to buy it in 1978 and to this day appreciate Robert Kasley's (the original owners) vision when he order the car, W-30, 4 speed, 3:91 W-27, poverty caps, rally pack, 8 track, no console....just perfect! Even the gold color was representative of the era with three different golds available in 1970. Red and Black may be more desired and popular but gold clearly stated the 1970 era best. Thanks for all your support during the restoration. My price will also be in the area of a high water mark for this type of car but some very recent private sales have been clearly within this price range. I will always have my 1971 442 M-22 convertible so I will not be bailing out of the hobby.

Tomorrow I plan to post a for sale ad on this site. I hope when the dust settles people will feel we were good caretakers of the car. Thanks Lee and Sue Pearl

[mockingbird812]

Good luck Lee. She's a real stunner! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[dl7265]

Lee,

I know this must be a difficult decision. I'm glad I was able to see it finished in person last year. What a wonderful car.It will make someone very very happy. I hope it finds as great a caretaker for the next 35 years as you have been.
Best of luck,
DL

[LeeP]

Thanks Don: I had a blast showing the car around the country for a whole year. You and I have owned the best of the best Buick and Oldsmobile. That was a pretty big deal. Both of us were good caretakers of our cars and brought them back as best as we could. I hope the new owner of my car is a special person too. Lee

[LeeP]

The car is now posted in the for sale section. Lee