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mockingbird812
06-24-2011, 05:27 AM
I thought this was kind of cool and unusual. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-Plymouth-Barracuda-Formula-S-Convert-383-4-Speed-/280699720638?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item415b01d3be #ht_19764wt_961)

Xplantdad
06-24-2011, 02:50 PM
Very cool! I love 383 Formula S Cudas...

Adam12
06-24-2011, 07:35 PM
That's awesome! Great photos, nice writeup, and nice documentation. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif


http://www.autodealerpoint.com/adp/dealersite/546/4756/2_1279641575IMG04.JPG

442w30
06-24-2011, 09:59 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam12</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's awesome! Great photos, nice writeup, and nice documentation. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

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I kinda disagree.

Once again, we have that very same dealership (the former Best of Show) using puffery to mislead.

For example, &quot;Because it's a 1967, Galen has an accurate count on how many of a particular make/model of a car were built and, as he pointed out in his report, only NINE 383 Barracuda Convertibles were built in 1967, and our car was number six.&quot;

Actually, what that means is that Galen has nine cars in his registry. It's not total production. In fact, 1967 is a funny year as it's not possible to determine how many of all the 383 cars built were convertibles.

It'll also be a cold day in hell when a non-Hemi A-body reaches 99 grand. :-)

old5.0
06-25-2011, 01:52 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

It'll also be a cold day in hell when a non-Hemi A-body reaches 99 grand. :-) </div></div>

My thoughts exactly. Pretty car, though.

Xplantdad
06-25-2011, 05:07 AM
Nevermind...

1969z280
06-25-2011, 06:06 AM
Sounds like somebody crawled out from under his rock on the wrong side.

Adam12
06-25-2011, 06:15 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It'll also be a cold day in hell when a non-Hemi A-body reaches 99 grand. :-) </div></div>

Brrr...its officially a cold day in hell Mr442! This 69 440 Cuda bid to 100G and still did not satisfy the owner enough to let it go.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&amp;Number=25936&amp;filename= SC0508-66443_1.jpg

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=SC0508-66443

But I know what you mean, it's a lot of money for that non Hemi 67 Cuda convert, and especially a pre-70 Cuda, so I understand your comment and I agree with it. Could you please explain why 67 was a funny year and why its hard to determine how many 383 convertibles were made? Just trying to learn here. And I'm learning how to use these emoticon things. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

agtw31
06-26-2011, 04:29 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The entire car was disassembled to a bare shell </div></div>

that probably took 45 minutes. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

442w30
06-27-2011, 03:46 AM
Adam, it seems that while all the production info that exists for Mopars is pretty good compared with other brands, for 1967 there's little information that exists beyond engine combos. So, for example, in 1968 you could find out how many Barracuda Formula S 383 ragtops were built, but for 1967 the only numbers that exist are for TOTAL 383 cars. There is no information that shows how they were divided by coupe, fastback, and convertible.

In Galen's Registry, he has 9, but that just means how many he has registered, not how many were built - it's pretty clear in the documentation provided in the photos despite their copy suggesting something else. Plus, who's to say that all that survive are registered in Galen's Registry? There's more out there for sure, and I bet they made over 100 ragtops with the 383.

Shevelle
06-28-2011, 04:20 AM
I can't speak for the car in question here, but as far as the selling dealer goes, I'd be leary of putting any faith whatsoever in anything they have to say in their ad. They have a 67 Chevelle currently running on ebay as well. This one. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-Chevrolet-Chevelle-SS-Convertible-396-4-Speed-/280694805613?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&amp;hash=item415ab6d46d ) I know the car Very Well. They bought it last month at Mecum for 55k and now have it listed on ebay for 80k. It's not nor will it ever be an 80k car, but that's their business, they can ask whatever they want. But...it is NOT a numbers matching car. The owner that consigned it to Mecum never represented it as numbers matching, in fact it was even announced on stage that it was not. Yet this dealer has stated in his ebay ad not once, not twice, but three times that it is documented numbers matching. Just sayin'...

CanCOPO
06-28-2011, 01:43 PM
Same dealer selling the JM certified authentic recreation ZL1 for 159K. The sales pitch is that an original ZL1 427 makes it a ZL1. Their business/sale strategy meetings must be interesting.

olredalert
06-28-2011, 03:47 PM
----We seem to have been thru this before with this description. I dont know the dealer in any way, but all that add states is that the ZL1 is very close to being an original. In other words as good a clone &quot;in their opinion&quot; as can be built. It doesnt say anywhere that I saw that because the car has a ZL1 engine its therefore an original ZL1. I agree that they are very posative on the descriptions I have seen, but I almost never see an E-bay add that isnt posative about whatever is being sold.
----The 1967 Chevelle convertable mentioned elsewhere on this sight seems to be a bigger problem.
----Weather your buying of E-bay or from your neighbor...do your due diligence! Obviously, in a perfect world we wouldnt need to. Everone would be honest and aboveboard, but it isnt a perfect world, is it? .....Bill S