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Alss
07-06-2011, 09:46 PM
Having more clutch issues with the Malibu!..very chattery and a super stiff pedal..something is not right! Currently using a Centerforce II dual friction pressure plate and disc. Hooks up good.a little chatter if your not rough with it...but the pedal pressure is bending the linkage!...what does everyone like to use..Hays??..Ram??.try another centerforce?...think Ill have a spare clutch ready so when I open it up I have a replacement if I need it..thanks

ALbert

PxTx
07-06-2011, 10:01 PM
What flywheel are you running? I must admit, I am not real familiar with the Centerfore II Dual Friction configuration. Is this a diaphragm PP? How about the friction material on the clutch, does it have puck friction spots on one or both sides?

69SSZL1
07-07-2011, 12:07 AM
I use the Hays Street/Strip setup behind my ZL-1 4 speed. Great hold and not too stiff pedal. Summit Racing has the kit, you just have to call them and ask for it.

VintageMusclecar
07-07-2011, 01:06 AM
I have a Ram Powergrip in my Chevelle. Pedal pressure is light, hasn't slipped at all behind the 496, engagement is smooth as butter.

Alss
07-07-2011, 01:19 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What flywheel are you running? I must admit, I am not real familiar with the Centerfore II Dual Friction configuration. Is this a diaphragm PP? How about the friction material on the clutch, does it have puck friction spots on one or both sides?

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Paul..it has pucks on the flywheel side and is a diaphragm type with the centrfical wieghts..

Eric..I'm liking the Ram stuff!!

PxTx
07-07-2011, 02:18 AM
From what you described, seems like either the clutch linkage may be incorrect/misconfigured or the pressure plate is too strong.

I have a Spec Stage III clutch in a car which takes some getting used to. It is a bit too grippy to pass for OE, but it doesn't chatter. I've been told by others that the next rated clutch level- a Stage III Plus offers smoother engagement with all things being equal. Before you jump onto the next clutch manufacturer's offering, it probably is worth the call into Centerforce. They may offer you a more compatible PP or disc are a lower rate to ensure a happy customer and a positive review on the net. Wouldn't be bad to include a link to this thread either.

I've used Zoom, Hays, Centerforce, Spec and others all with positive experiences. Anytime things were less than ideal, it seemed to have been a mismatched clutch for my expectations or application. I would love to hear how CF tried to help make a happy customer.

scuncio
07-07-2011, 02:33 AM
I have run McLeod clutches for 10 years. Really like their Kevlar/organic disc with a diaphragm pressure plate. I have a 65 road race Pontiac with a McLeod sintered iron Rev-Lok clutch that's still pretty streetable with low pedal effort.

kwhizz
07-07-2011, 01:04 PM
Al.......If you have the wrong length pivot ball inside the bellhousing, it can cause some issues as the pedal is pushed down as it will try to pull the input shaft sideways with increased pedal pressure..... which will take out the pilot bearing eventually..........Don't ask how I know that!!

Ken

kwhizz
07-07-2011, 01:10 PM
Also......I have a standard Centerforce in my 66 Nova (stock 283) and when it gets a little hot it &quot;Chatters&quot; like crazy.......Gonna put stock GM stuff back in at some time....

Ken

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
07-07-2011, 03:26 PM
I had the same concerns as what Ken is experiencing, so I went with GM stuff in both the Yenko and in the '69.

Alss
07-07-2011, 04:08 PM
All good advice guys..thanks!..going to talk with centerforce tech today..not looking for a freebie...but hopefully some answers and a solution to the problem. I really think I have a alighnment issue, with either the fork ball location or its depth..getting a bore scope so I can see whats going on inside the bell when the clutch is depressed..this should tell me something..I hope..

OK here's a question I should have asked long ago: does the T 56 trans, when used with a mechanical linkage, use the same TO bearing as a standard 4 speed trans?! I assumed it did..time to call tremec!!