Welcome to PonchoVilla (the house of Pontiacs)

[njsteve]

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Charley, feel free to relocate my mega thread to this forum if you like.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=99416&amp;page=1

NJSteve

[x Baldwin Motion]

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[MrsBillyBobcat]

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[RAIIIT/A]

PONTIACS! Did I hear PONTIACS???

[Don_Lightfoot]

Well, let me jump in on this Pontiac forum. My first two cars were both Pontiacs - 60 Parisienne four door hardtop and then a 63 Parisienne convertible. When I got back in the hobby in the 1990's I again went the Pontiac route. Here's some pics of the ones I had during those years.

http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss/64gto1.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss/69gto1.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss/69bird1.jpg

One of my favourite cars of all time is a 61 Ventura bubbletop.

[MrsBillyBobcat]

VERY NICE Don!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif LUV the Firebird! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Was your plate &quot;6TY 9&quot;? We can't register that here <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif (or anything similar to that) I tried for my '69 Camaro, but they claimed it was &quot;obscene&quot; <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

[CC Rider]

Found these two beauties at Barrett Jackson this past January!

http://onewaystreet.smugmug.com/Cars/Barrett-Jackson-Photos-1-19/tnBJ-Wed-2011-226/1162267178_qfcW5-L.jpg
http://onewaystreet.smugmug.com/Cars/Barrett-Jackson-Photos-1-19/tnBJ-Wed-2011-229/1162267194_Gbd74-L.jpg

http://onewaystreet.smugmug.com/Cars/Barrett-Jackson-Photos-1-19/tnBJ-Wed-2011-266/1162267431_oGBo8-L.jpg

[Don_Lightfoot]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrsBillyBobcat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">VERY NICE Don!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif LUV the Firebird! Was your plate &quot;6TY 9&quot;? We can't register that here <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif</div></div>
Yes it is Rita. Maybe we're a little more liberal up here <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

[grantprix]

Saaaaaweet! Lets see some Ponchos!

[GTO_DON]

How bout this one Grant. Original paint survivor car W72 4 spd with no air cond and its a special edition Bandit car.

[RAIIIT/A]

All rowed up....



http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/69GP008.jpg

[RAIIIT/A]

more....

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/100_17241.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/76TA010.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/76TA013.jpg

[njsteve]

My son's GreatGrandmother's car. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

Our 1975 Firebird Espirt that my Gramma Rose bought new at Ruckle Pontiac in Yonkers, NY in Sept 1975. It has 79,000 miles on it now. Unrestored other than the paint job I had done back in 1990. My 10-year old son just rebuilt the original 350 engine last month:

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http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/S7006746.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/nk15268/S7006748.jpg

[RAIIIT/A]

these were my Dads...

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/img050.jpg

[Plowman]

Cool stuff. Paul

[StealthBird]

This is a shot from the early 90's.

1969 Firebird 400
1979 Trans Am T/A 6.6
1991 Formula 350

[StealthBird]

My old 65 GTO Coupe, around 1984, 389 tri-power, Blue Charcoal original paint. Dig my new BFG Belted TA's. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[69L78Post]

Nice, post car too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[markinnaples]

That '64 vert is BEAUTIFUL.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

You want rare Ponchos....hows this for a pair.... two 67 2+2's 428 HO 4 speed converts....less than 25 produced and here's two of them sitting side by side <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif


http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/rmitch120/tn_IMG_0236-1.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/rmitch120/tn_IMG_0246.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/rmitch120/tn_IMG_0247-1.jpg

[RAIIIT/A]

70 Zee - Thanks for making me drool all over my keyboard...


Here's a recent pic of my '70 TA...

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/thecars009.jpg

[Tommy Nolen]

&quot;One of my favourite cars of all time is a 61 Ventura bubbletop.&quot;

Mine too and I have one but I've never learned how to post pictures!!

[Ron Fox]

Nice looking Pontiac's guys.

[olredalert]

-----Forget that pint-sized TA. Give us more of a taste about the GP behind it. Big bodies rule!!!!!.......Bill S

[69L78]

Here is a local car I saw at the AACA show.

[RAIIIT/A]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">-----Forget that pint-sized TA. Give us more of a taste about the GP behind it. Big bodies rule!!!!!.......Bill S </div></div>

'67 GP.... Pennsylvania car .... so it has some rust.... but is a 75,000 mile... garage kept...original paint... purchased from original owners son... original sales contract and special order form... 400 M-20 3.42 posi manual steering and brakes AM-FM gauges console 8 lugs. Skirts and headrests are in the garage....

this is the day after I bought it.....

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/100_1541-2.jpg

and after a couple of weeks of ownership.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/76TA012.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w65/764spdta/76TA010.jpg

[Rick]

There's a twin to the 67 2+2 428 4 speed blue car in CT.
Always thought that was a nice combo.
Rick

[Tommy Nolen]

The '61 Ventura

[Tommy Nolen]

Damn, it worked!!! I posted a picture!!!

[Don_Lightfoot]

That's the one Tommy. I'll take mine in Burgundy, 389, tripower and a four speed. Oh, if you can throw in an SD would be great <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Tommy Nolen]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don_Lightfoot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's the one Tommy. I'll take mine in Burgundy, 389, tripower and a four speed. Oh, if you can throw in an SD would be great <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>

Yeah, a SD would be nice but it's a 425A/4 speed. PHS docs and still has the original motor.

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn, it worked!!! I posted a picture!!! </div></div>

Good for you <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[Tommy Nolen]

Here's my '62 Cat. Bruce posted pictures of this car for me some time ago but these are some different shots. It's a 425A Trophy motor/ 4 speed. PHS doc's. still has the original motor and transmission. Also has the heavy duty brake package

[StealthBird]

Incredible car, has to be one of the most beautiful 62's I've ever seen. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[Don_Lightfoot]

Don't you just love the interiors on full size Pontiacs <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[Norwood]

Pontiac GMs PERFORMANCE Division

1970 RA III, Lucy blue, 4sp, Standard black int.




http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/100_2660-1-1-1-1.jpg




http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/2010transam006.jpg

[RAIIIT/A]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pontiac GMs PERFORMANCE Division

1970 RA III, Lucy blue, 4sp, Standard black int.




http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/100_2660-1-1-1-1.jpg




http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/crabs24/2010transam006.jpg </div></div>

I'll trade you my puke blue deluxe interior for your black standard interior <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[StealthBird]

The 70-73 Birds just look so cool from every angle. It's incredible they built a car like that in 1970. When you see one coming down the road, they seem to fill up the entire lane. Coolest spoilers in the industry. A bonafide road racer and stoplight drag racer all in one. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Xplantdad]

Wow Tommy...that car is just wonderful....Holy cow!

Those TA's are cool as heck!

[Tommy Nolen]

Thanks Bruce, that T/A is looking good also!!!

[Brewster]

Here is a copy pics of my duties hope you enjoy?

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk277/Brewsters_album/73BrewsterBuds089.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk277/Brewsters_album/73BrewsterBuds080.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk277/Brewsters_album/73BrewsterBuds075.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk277/Brewsters_album/73BrewsterBuds020.jpg

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk277/Brewsters_album/BrianPics2.jpg

[Xplantdad]

Those are beautiful!!!

[njsteve]

All these SD guys just like to continually taunt me! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[StealthBird]

I've seen Brewster's SD-455 at a couple large shows, and the waters part when he pulls in. Truly stunning. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[Norwood]

That green one is pretty nice

[grantprix]

The pair of Brewster's are fantastic!!!

[grantprix]

Here's my two GP's... 1970 Model J 455 58K unrestored, 1971 Model J 400 4spd 69K unrestored.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...e=1&amp;theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=205931599439509&amp;set=a.2059315127728 51.56464.100000680126726&amp;type=1&amp;theater)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...e=1&amp;theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=205931702772832&amp;set=a.2059315127728 51.56464.100000680126726&amp;type=1&amp;theater)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...e=1&amp;theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101579783208025&amp;set=a.1015797765413 59.3647.100000680126726&amp;type=1&amp;theater)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...e=1&amp;theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101579796541357&amp;set=a.1015797765413 59.3647.100000680126726&amp;type=1&amp;theater)

[grantprix]

Don, that puppy looks brand new! No a/c too... perfect!

[Charley Lillard]

Brewster...Since you have two of them, can I have one ? SOB I love that color.

[grantprix]

Lets try this again...

Here's my two GP's... 1970 Model J 455 58K unrestored, 1971 Model J 400 4spd 69K unrestored.

[Brewster]

Grant, WOW! Love the triple Black 4-Speed J car big time. There both great but that 71, Wow!

Guys, Thanks for the nice comments above on my cars I really appreciate it. You all know there never done just like our homes. There's always something!

[Charley Lillard]

But can I have one ?

[SS427]

Beautiful!

[MrsBillyBobcat]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But can I have one ? </div></div>

LOL Charley! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

Those are BEAUTIFUL Grant! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif I LUV the blue one!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Brewster]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But can I have one ? </div></div>

Charley, I'd hate to separate the pair due to they're both made and shipped on the same day. A true his(manual)and her's(auto) pair that where ordered the same all the way down to the hood decal(less trans options). I am not aware of another pair in any color option made on the same day but not to say one doesn't exist?
If you really want one your going to have to take two, OK?

[njsteve]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brewster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But can I have one ? </div></div>

Charley, I'd hate to separate the pair due to they're both made and shipped on the same day. A true his(manual)and her's(auto) pair that where ordered the same all the way down to the hood decal(less trans options). I am not aware of another pair in any color option made on the same day but not to say one doesn't exist?
If you really want one your going to have to take two, OK?


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Go for it Charley! Then you can pick the extra one to trade to me. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[RAIIIT/A]

Very very nice cars Grant.... It looks like that '70 is coming along nicely....

[Norwood]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">




Go for it Charley! Then you can pick the extra one to trade to me. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif </div></div>


If you got one of Brew's there would be no need to have a restoration thread, You need to get the red one and I think you know what I'm talking about

[njsteve]

LOL. You're right. I don't consider a car truly &quot;my own&quot; until I have taken it apart and somehow injured myself and/or bled while putting it back together.

When my 10-year old son was putting together the engine in his Great Grandmother's 75 Firebird, he got a bloody nose (still don't know how he managed that one) and bled all over the inside of the engine. I congratulated him, saying: Congrats, you're now officially a mechanic!&quot; He laughed and kept on working. (tough kid)

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[Charley Lillard]

Cool...I'll take em..

[GTO_DON]

Just finished painting my 65 2+2 convertible. 421 Tripower 4spd.Took these pics today in the 100 degree heat!

[olredalert]

-----Now Don,,,Gots to give more info than that. What a great example of Pontiac performance, and my colors too. Which 421 Tri-Power was it delivered with and is it still there? I had a 67 2+2 but always wanted a 65 as tri-power was still available. Just MYHO but nothing says Pontiac performance like those three carburetors and three peddles under the dash!!!.......Bill S

[Norwood]

Stunning, love those BIG 4sp cars

[Norwood]

With this Pontiac section my thread count will go up fast <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[GTO_DON]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">-----Now Don,,,Gots to give more info than that. What a great example of Pontiac performance, and my colors too. Which 421 Tri-Power was it delivered with and is it still there? I had a 67 2+2 but always wanted a 65 as tri-power was still available. Just MYHO but nothing says Pontiac performance like those three carburetors and three peddles under the dash!!!.......Bill S </div></div>
Bill,If i ever thought I would get anyones attension fast I knew it would be yours!! I know you also have a love for these ocean liners. It was sold new in Pa 40 miles from me even thou I drove to Connecticut for it.Original Nightwatch Blue with parchment gut and roof. Ive got the original buildsheet from under the seat and it was delivered with a 4 barrell but the trips and the HO manifolds are there and look to have been there for a long time. The owner that I got it from Died and thought it came with trips but they were there when he bought the car years ago.The 4spd is original along with the 342 gears. Cool options,ps,wood wheel,am-fm,reverb,8 lugs,rally gauges with tachometer,soft ray glass and the hazard flasher. It came with a few more options also.Got a killer body on it and it runs awesome. I just took my girl out in it tonight and punched it on a roll and it broke the tires loose like no tomorrow and I flat shifted second and I tought she was going to faint. Runs pretty hard for a big tank.I will post a few more pics in a couple days.

[StealthBird]

What an awesome car Don. Fully deserving of the GR-RRR plate up front. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Pontiac just had so many cool performance cars across their lineup! Chevrolet was the only other GM division with as many to choose from. It's no wonder that in 1965, Motor Trend couldn't decide whether to give their 1965 Car Of The Year Award to the GTO, 2+2, Grand Prix, or Bonneville, so they gave it to the entire Pontiac Motor Division.

Here's an 8-lug wheel on display, and a big ol' wagon, with a 421 under the hood. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[RAIIIT/A]

Years ago(mid 80's) I remember seeing a '66 Bonne wagon with a 421 3-2's and a 4 speed 8 lugs etc...... sitting in the back of a used carlot in Hayward.

[njsteve]

Crazy question: how did they balance those 8-lug wheels, without a center area to mount onto the balancer machine? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

[Charley Lillard]

Crap..As I recall the cars came with a extra piece to adapt to a balancer...Somebody must have a pic.

[olredalert]

-----Steve,,,Most tire stores and garages back in 8-lug days had an adapter laying around somewhere. The hold-down for the spare was supposed to be useable for that purpose but I have never figured out how!

-----Don,,,Anyone who has on ounce of performance in their soul would change out the log manifolds for the HO manifolds on Pontiacs from this era. Pontiacs log manifolds would have to be the most restrictive manifolds ever cast. Those HO manifolds and just a bit of headwork and a mild cam will make a standard 421 stand up and roar......Bill S

[Norwood]

since the manufactuer sections have been added check out the post counts.......NUFF SAID

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since the manufactuer sections have been added check out the post counts.......NUFF SAID </div></div>

Hey, no fair. Steve gave you guys a head start. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[njsteve]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since the manufactuer sections have been added check out the post counts.......NUFF SAID </div></div>

Hey, no fair. Steve gave you guys a head start. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif </div></div>

Yeah, a 7-year head start. Talk about stuffing the ballot box! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

What's 400,000 views, between friends, give or take a few.

[Norwood]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since the manufactuer sections have been added check out the post counts.......NUFF SAID </div></div>

Hey, no fair. Steve gave you guys a head start. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif


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Didn't your mother tell you lifes not fair. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

[grantprix]

That's beautiful Don!

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since the manufactuer sections have been added check out the post counts.......NUFF SAID </div></div>

Hey, no fair. Steve gave you guys a head start. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif


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Didn't your mother tell you lifes not fair. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif </div></div>

I might have heard that once or twice. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

[RAIIIT/A]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Crazy question: how did they balance those 8-lug wheels, without a center area to mount onto the balancer machine? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif </div></div>

Most tire shops had a &quot;Volkswagen&quot; adapter which is a direct bolt set up. The hold down plate in the trunk is for use on the 40/40 tire changing machines..... the hold down plate can also be used when using a bubble balancer. An on the car balancer is the best way to balance 8 lugs. The 8 lugs on my '67 GP are way out of balance...... I'm going to try and balance the whole wheel/drum/tire assy on a spin balancer..

[70 Forest Green Zee]

Hey ....RAIIIT/A...read your PM's <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[njsteve]

Check this survivor out from the cruise night in Hamilton NJ, last night. 62 Pontiac 421/405, 4-speed. Original paint. Neat car. It was used as the tow vehicle for a second Super Duty 62. Both this car and the SD race car are owned by the same guy.

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt77/nk15268c/S7007107.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt77/nk15268c/S7007102.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt77/nk15268c/S7007104.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt77/nk15268c/S7007101.jpg

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt77/nk15268c/S7007105.jpg

[Xplantdad]

Very cool!

[njsteve]

The guy with the two 62's also has a red 73 SD Trans Am (which of course he doesn't want to get rid of). <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif

[olredalert]

----The 62 GP SD would be a whole bunch of Pontiac nuts holy grail. I know it would be one of mine. What a car, and on top of it all its black with a white gut. Fantastic!!!!!.....Bill S

[Brewster]

Wow, that 62 ROCKS! Hope its at Norwalk for me to drool over?

You'll find one Steve, Good things take time you know! It took me over four years before I had even a chance at one of my Brewster cars.
Best of luck with your search, Brew

[njsteve]

I think he did say he was going to Norwalk. Don't know what he is bringing. He was a nice guy to talk with. It would be amazing if he brought both 62s and set them up as the tow car and the race car.

He bought both cars as a package deal when he finally got the original owner to sell them. The tow car still has the 1971 inspection sticker in the window. That was the last time they were driven. I think he said it took him 10 years of negotiations to convince the owner to sell the pair. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt77/nk15268c/S7007103.jpg

[grantprix]

Saaaaweet... What a find!

[napa68]

Those Corvettes of mine are gonna get sold for some of these Indians! These full size cars are killing me. Nice find. Thanks for the pics

[Brewster]

Will be keeping my eyes open know matter what! I heard there might be a few late model super duties attending even with the calender change for the reunion.

Due to scheduling conflicts the 421 SUPER DUTY REUNION
presented by PHS automotive services, inc has been re-scheduled for the 2012 event.

[pontiacfarmer]

here is one of my 66s...have a couple more
one is a 66 2+2 421 tripower ho
not ready for show yet...bought it in morristown nj 4 years ago

regards stig