Street Racing Articles

[ZiggyL78]

Is anyone out there collecting old street racing articles?I'd like to start a collecton.I'm looking into a book my cousin has that is titled Confessions of a Street Racer,or something like that.HiPerformance Cars magazine had some good ones back in the 80s.
Thanks

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Check old Philly Inquirer newspapers. There used to be TONS of articles relating to street racing.

[C1SS396]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check old Philly Inquirer newspapers. There used to be TONS of articles relating to street racing. </div></div>

Some good videos on Youtube also right Fast <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JF9TpBeMCk

Tag light so bright .

[Dave Rifkin]

One article that I can't forget was in an issue of Car Craft (I think). I detailed an arranged high dollar street race that was supposed to take place late one night in the Chicago area.
One car was a 1969 Camaro Z28 RS that was owned by a guy named Scotty Brown. The car had a nasty tunnel rammed big block, narrowed rear and a Lenco transmission. His opponent was Steve Lisk and his 1971 Hemi Challenger, also tunnel ram equipped, narrowed Dana 60 and a Lenco.

The article starts describing the cars unloading and prepping for the race when the cops show up, or something like that. Whatever happened the story ends without the race taking place.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C1SS396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check old Philly Inquirer newspapers. There used to be TONS of articles relating to street racing. </div></div>

Some good videos on Youtube also right Fast <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JF9TpBeMCk

Tag light so bright . </div></div>

That was the night I exploded the clutch <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One article that I can't forget was in an issue of Car Craft (I think). I detailed an arranged high dollar street race that was supposed to take place late one night in the Chicago area.
One car was a 1969 Camaro Z28 RS that was owned by a guy named Scotty Brown. The car had a nasty tunnel rammed big block, narrowed rear and a Lenco transmission. His opponent was Steve Lisk and his 1971 Hemi Challenger, also tunnel ram equipped, narrowed Dana 60 and a Lenco.

The article starts describing the cars unloading and prepping for the race when the cops show up, or something like that. Whatever happened the story ends without the race taking place.

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I remember that article...I think that those were code names for Kwhizz and Stefano! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[C1SS396]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C1SS396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check old Philly Inquirer newspapers. There used to be TONS of articles relating to street racing. </div></div>

Some good videos on Youtube also right Fast <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JF9TpBeMCk

Tag light so bright . </div></div>

That was the night I exploded the clutch <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif </div></div>

Doh !!! I still like the ghost buster video better ...

[C1SS396]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One article that I can't forget was in an issue of Car Craft (I think). I detailed an arranged high dollar street race that was supposed to take place late one night in the Chicago area.
One car was a 1969 Camaro Z28 RS that was owned by a guy named Scotty Brown. The car had a nasty tunnel rammed big block, narrowed rear and a Lenco transmission. His opponent was Steve Lisk and his 1971 Hemi Challenger, also tunnel ram equipped, narrowed Dana 60 and a Lenco.

The article starts describing the cars unloading and prepping for the race when the cops show up, or something like that. Whatever happened the story ends without the race taking place.

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I remember that article...I think that those were code names for Kwhizz and Stefano! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif </div></div>

November 1978 Car Craft

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/c1ss396/IMAG0522.jpg

[Xplantdad]

That's it! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[C1SS396]

I will try and scan it in latter little blurry ..Don't forget Street Racer Magazine from late 70's early 80's ..few copy on ebay . http://stores.ebay.com/old-car-stuff-and...p;_sid=82798895 (http://stores.ebay.com/old-car-stuff-and-more/Magazines-Miscellaneous-/_i.html?_nkw=street&amp;submit=Search&amp;_fsub=13516330&amp;_ sid=82798895)


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[markjohnson]

That Car Craft Street Racing article is really a great read. I remember that article well. The '69 Camaro Z/28 owner was 20-something and his car was pretty radical with a nice Rat motor(468 CID, I think), Lenco 4-Speed and big tires under the rear. He was supposed to race some kind of bad-ass'ed Corvette the weekend Car Craft was in town but the Vette was a no show. So then they agreed to race Kevin Lawrence and his BBC '69 Chevelle that even had a 4-Speed if I remember correctly. I think the cops showed up and put an end to anything happening before the race went down. Kevin Lawrence later ended up with the old Doc Dixon '69 Camaro M/P car and turned it into one of them Chi-Town Outlaw Super Stockers about 20 years ago.

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markjohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> He was supposed to race some kind of bad-ass'ed Corvette the weekend Car Craft was in town but the Vette was a no show. </div></div>

This one ...?

[jannes_z-28]

Here is an old thread about it with a few scanned articles:

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthrea...3204#Post363204 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Main=34275&amp;Number=3632 04#Post363204)


Jan

[kwhizz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One article that I can't forget was in an issue of Car Craft (I think). I detailed an arranged high dollar street race that was supposed to take place late one night in the Chicago area.
One car was a 1969 Camaro Z28 RS that was owned by a guy named Scotty Brown. The car had a nasty tunnel rammed big block, narrowed rear and a Lenco transmission. His opponent was Steve Lisk and his 1971 Hemi Challenger, also tunnel ram equipped, narrowed Dana 60 and a Lenco.

The article starts describing the cars unloading and prepping for the race when the cops show up, or something like that. Whatever happened the story ends without the race taking place.

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I remember that article...I think that those were code names for Kwhizz and Stefano! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif </div></div>




Must have been Stefano........I &quot;Never&quot; participated in anything that was &quot;Ilegal&quot;, unsanctioned, unsafe, and I never exceeded the Legal posted speed limit anywhere on the streets of Chicago...........I was a &quot;Model&quot; citizen growing up in the Windy city...........Now....Stefano I'm not so sure about.........

[Xplantdad]

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[SS427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I &quot;Never&quot; participated in anything that was &quot;Ilegal&quot;, unsanctioned, unsafe, and I never exceeded the Legal posted speed limit anywhere on the streets of Chicago...........I was a &quot;Model&quot; citizen growing up in the Windy city...........</div></div>

Yeah, sure you were.......... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

[ZiggyL78]

Great stuff.I remember a similar article.I think the Camaro was orange and in the beginning it started with the guys prepping the Camaro.One guy had just arrived with a couple of bottles of NOS and some other guy had gone out to pick up the new slicks.Same deal.I don't think the race ever got off.
I also remember a number of articles about the Connecting Highways area.I think it was in NY?It really got crazy.They would drop some wreck on the entrance ramp to block the traffic.I remember one race were they were actually going to do it in the middle of winter.A couple of the brothers had developed some burnout mix that wouldn't freeze.LOL.
The one that stands out the most was an article about some stroked GTO.It was an old article as I had used it for an essay in high school back in 1969.I couldn't believe that my Grammer teacher actually went for it and believed I really wrote it.I got a AAA+ and the teacher told me that I should consider a career in writing.LOL.If you are reading this Mr Guyat.I ended up working for the Beer Store for 32 years.:)

[1969z280]

For years, guys from the Southside of Chicago raced big block Corvettes and punched-out Cadillacs on a one-mile section of the Skyway on Saturday nights. They even had the start and finish lines painted. It was crazy! Then CarCraft came to do a story and the whole scene was shut down by the police. It was all about gearing and torque in a one-mile street race.

[markjohnson]

I've heard of that &quot;Flying Mile&quot; race a long time ago. I remember a particular story about a highly modified Oldsmobile Quad 4 that raced there.

[L-79 Nova]

A lot of us in the Detroit area used to race on Northline road, now part of Metro Airport. Ron....

[ZiggyL78]

I heard about those &quot;flying mile&quot; races.I have a twin turbo C5 that makes 716RWHP and runs high 9s.It's a damn fast street car but nothing compared to some of my friends cars which make 1000+RWHP.Some of these guys are from Texas and they race from a roll on some local highway.They run from 80-200MPH.They own blown C5s,twin turbo Lambos and Ford GT40s.Crazy money.Imagine buying a new Lambo and then dropping another $100,000 into the car for a built twin turbo motor.The only legal racing they do is the Texas Mile.On the forum that the Texas C5 guys hang out in they always talk about racing in Mexico.I live in Canada and I figured these guys are close to the border and they go to Mexico because there is no cops on the highway.Doh.Turns out the forum rules do not allow any posts about street racing.To get around that rule they say they were racing in Mexico last night.LOL.Man did I feel stupid once I found out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y2FtGtnVWY

[Pulnaway]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One article that I can't forget was in an issue of Car Craft (I think). I detailed an arranged high dollar street race that was supposed to take place late one night in the Chicago area.
One car was a 1969 Camaro Z28 RS that was owned by a guy named Scotty Brown. The car had a nasty tunnel rammed big block, narrowed rear and a Lenco transmission. His opponent was Steve Lisk and his 1971 Hemi Challenger, also tunnel ram equipped, narrowed Dana 60 and a Lenco.

The article starts describing the cars unloading and prepping for the race when the cops show up, or something like that. Whatever happened the story ends without the race taking place.

</div></div>The Steve Lisk Hemi Challenger was in the Hot Rod Sept 77 issue. It was also in the Sept 2010 issue (Where are they now? )

[markinnaples]

I think I have that Hot Rod in my archives.

[Ironarms]

I remember cruising to and hanging out on high st. In pottstown,pa. Then heading to philly around midnight to watch the street racing near the stadium

[ZiggyL78]

Great!Thanks for the link.I just ordered 2 articles from Ebay.It would be cool if we could set up some kind of online librairy.
&quot;Big Willie&quot;.I remember him.I think he was in the beginning of &quot;2 lane blacktop&quot;.That and Bullet are my 2 favorite movies for fast cars.I still get a chill everytime I watch Bullet and the Charger first hits it.
If anyone wanted to swap/sell a copy of an article,I would be into that.
Thanks for all the replys. <span style="font-style: italic"> </span>

[ZiggyL78]

Here is the book I was looking for.It's not cheap but some great stories.

http://www.amazon.ca/Muscle-Car-Confidential-Confessions-Driver/dp/0760328315

[flyingn]

here is the where are they now article.

http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_1009_hot_rods_past_feature_cover_cars/

[MagicRatt]

I was 13 when that November '78 issue of CC came out featuring that Scott Brown article. I was so hooked on that mag that I remember waiting by the mail box for the mail man to arrive!! Do these mags today even send out writers to do stories like that anymore?? That article turned me into the menace I am today.....LOL!

[mockingbird812]

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[C1SS396]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check old Philly Inquirer newspapers. There used to be TONS of articles relating to street racing. </div></div>
Friday Sept 19 1997 Philadelphia Daily News Cover .. This is the poster size cover i made my self that night(I work for the paper then ) Had it hanging in my garage since ...http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/c1ss396/IMAG0537.jpg

[MagicRatt]

Damn, I remember the friday and saturday nights I spent down at JFK, Front street, delaware ave and the meadows back in the early/ mid 80's. Those were some crazy times with tons of 60's and 70's muscle. I remember my camaro using a tank of gas to get down there, another tank to cruise around and &quot;play&quot;, and a fill up to get home. Sunoco 94 @ 1.23 a gallon..............

Rich

[Dave Rifkin]

I remember seeing the Roush / Ruggirello Mustang II for sale at the Atlantic City car auction way back when they held it at the old convention center. The Boss '9 was long gone and it had been painted white with blue stripes.
Years later I saw it on a used car lot in Pleasantville, NJ and again at a trucking companies parking lot later on.
I wish I had the money to buy it and return it to it's former glory.

[scuncio]

I covered some street racing when I was Car Craft's tech editor around 10 years ago. It was a lot of fun but I wouldn't do it again. When you show up to these spots with an expensive camera, with a huge flash mounted on top, and are shooting pictures of cars launching and doing burnouts, it's a matter of time before you're &quot;asked&quot; to get lost.

[flyingn]

I remember seeing you Camaro down there Rich then. Those were fun times. We used to cruise the Levittown parkway and Hatboro too.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MagicRatt</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Damn, I remember the friday and saturday nights I spent down at JFK, Front street, delaware ave and the meadows back in the early/ mid 80's. Those were some crazy times with tons of 60's and 70's muscle. I remember my camaro using a tank of gas to get down there, another tank to cruise around and &quot;play&quot;, and a fill up to get home. Sunoco 94 @ 1.23 a gallon..............

Rich </div></div>

[flyingn]

I remember seeing it at the 'junkyard pumpkin run' show in English Creek nj about 10 years ago too

[flyingn]

I remember when that issue came out.. That was just before the ricer movement ruined everything too


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C1SS396</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check old Philly Inquirer newspapers. There used to be TONS of articles relating to street racing. </div></div>
Friday Sept 19 1997 Philadelphia Daily News Cover .. This is the poster size cover i made my self that night(I work for the paper then ) Had it hanging in my garage since ...http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii128/c1ss396/IMAG0537.jpg </div></div>

[markinnaples]

Some pics from insideline.com:

http://www.insideline.com/features/photos/street-racing-in-new-york-city-gallery.html

[MagicRatt]

Frank, I had so much fun downtown with that damn camaro it makes the hairs on my arm stand up just thinking about them nights.......

[kwhizz]

Hooligans............................

[ZiggyL78]

That's what I am talking about.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some pics from insideline.com:

http://www.insideline.com/features/photos/street-racing-in-new-york-city-gallery.html
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[markinnaples]

Joe Oldham seems to be one of the best writers about the glory days of muscle cars and street racing during that period, so if you google him, you should be able to find some decent material.

[lowmile]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=363049#Post3630 49

[SuddenDeath]

Hi Everyone..new to the forum, but I found the post concerning the Gapp and Roush - Ruggirello Mustang II and wanted to let you know I am currently restoring it back to its original April 1977 Hot Rod Magazine article condition.

I'm hoping Mr. David Rifkin can help me with some history on it, since I have not been able to find out anything on previous owners since it left Detroit in 1981.

More to come!

Tom Tate

[kwhizz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuddenDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Everyone..new to the forum, but I found the post concerning the Gapp and Roush - Ruggirello Mustang II and wanted to let you know I am currently restoring it back to its original April 1977 Hot Rod Magazine article condition.

I'm hoping Mr. David Rifkin can help me with some history on it, since I have not been able to find out anything on previous owners since it left Detroit in 1981.

More to come!

Tom Tate </div></div>


Welcome to the site........Don't be bashful about posting pic's either........LOL

Ken

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuddenDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Everyone..new to the forum, but I found the post concerning the Gapp and Roush - Ruggirello Mustang II and wanted to let you know I am currently restoring it back to its original April 1977 Hot Rod Magazine article condition.

I'm hoping Mr. David Rifkin can help me with some history on it, since I have not been able to find out anything on previous owners since it left Detroit in 1981.

More to come!

Tom Tate </div></div>

Cool car!

A Woodward feller or two here might have some background on it, as well ...

http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/showthread.php?t=652803&amp;page=24

[SuddenDeath]

Tenney..I'll have to register on that forum and talk to Eric Shiffer, as it seems he is a wealth of information on these cars!

Back to the Ruggirello Mustang II...I had searched for this car for years and finally located it in a storage lot in New Jersey. I saw it once before at Gainesville Raceway here in Florida for sale in 1995, but it got away not to be seen again.

It appears it left Detroit for Florida back in 1981, then left Florida for Indiana around 1995, then New Jersey in 1997. However, I have not spoken to anyone who actually &quot;owned&quot; it or was close to someone who did yet.

I got the car in January 2010 and have been restoring it since. Currently doing paint/body work which should finish next month. I spent months just getting the car safe to start/run/drive again after many years of neglect and poorly done modifications to the rear suspension.

This is how the car looked when I found it. Photo taken in the NJ storage lot. I'm sure hoping Mr. Rifkin might be able to shed some light on it.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/Sudden%20Death%20Mustang%20II/SuddenDeath61.jpg

[SuddenDeath]

Here is an article done in late summer 1975 while the car was under construction.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/sc013044da.jpg

[SuddenDeath]

Here is the car in January 1977 with Jack Roush behind the wheel. Photo taken on or near Farmington Road just blocks from the Gapp and Roush shop during the photoshoot for the Sudden Death article by Baskerville.

This appearance is my goal for the restoration.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/RoushDrivingSD1977.jpg

[SuddenDeath]

This is the car after a few months of work getting it sorted out. The fuel system was so rotten when it arrived to me, it was literally dripping fuel on the floor! You wouldn't believe how much research it took to get the hood/scoop exactly as it was in those photos. The rear suspension was another challenge, since someone had changed it to coilover/ladder bars and very poorly done at that. I've restored the rear suspension back to the original setup in every detail, down to an original 70's vintage pair of Lakewood bars.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/AprilSDdrive26.jpg

[SuddenDeath]

Right now we're working on body/paint to be completed next month to get the car back to its original silver coat. Thankfully, the body survived in great shape under the 6 layers of paint/primer and surface rust here and there.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/SDFirstPrimerCoat14.jpg

[SuddenDeath]

This is the engine as I saw it in 1995. The twin turbos were done by Jack Roush in 1980/81 not long before Ruggirello sold it. From what I've read, it was lifting the front end under boost. I don't know if the car ever made a full pass under boost. It had no electronics, waste gates, nothing.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/RoushMustang2.jpg

[SuddenDeath]

This is the engine shortly before I took the car apart for paint/body work. It does still have the original 505&quot; stroked 460 that Roush built for it years ago.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/Randomeng2.jpg

[4onthefloor]

I think this is the article you wanted...It was in Hi-Performace Cars-July 1970 issue
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/4onthefloor/img122.jpg
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/4onthefloor/img123.jpg
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/4onthefloor/img124.jpg
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab89/4onthefloor/img126.jpg

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Wow!!

[SuddenDeath]

Cool stuff!

[flyingn]

This is how I saw it about 4 years ago at a car show in English creek nj.. What part of Jersey did you find it in? English creek is not to far outside Atlantic City


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuddenDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tenney..I'll have to register on that forum and talk to Eric Shiffer, as it seems he is a wealth of information on these cars!

Back to the Ruggirello Mustang II...I had searched for this car for years and finally located it in a storage lot in New Jersey. I saw it once before at Gainesville Raceway here in Florida for sale in 1995, but it got away not to be seen again.

It appears it left Detroit for Florida back in 1981, then left Florida for Indiana around 1995, then New Jersey in 1997. However, I have not spoken to anyone who actually &quot;owned&quot; it or was close to someone who did yet.

I got the car in January 2010 and have been restoring it since. Currently doing paint/body work which should finish next month. I spent months just getting the car safe to start/run/drive again after many years of neglect and poorly done modifications to the rear suspension.

This is how the car looked when I found it. Photo taken in the NJ storage lot. I'm sure hoping Mr. Rifkin might be able to shed some light on it.

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/Sudden%20Death%20Mustang%20II/SuddenDeath61.jpg

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[SuddenDeath]

I got it from a guy in Sicklerville, NJ. Looked to have spent years outside in the weather, paint peeling, tires dry rotted, all aluminum oxidized, etc.

[whitetop]

Are you going to replicate the mismatched silver paint?? LOL

[Dave Rifkin]

Tom thank you for taking the time to return this car back to it's original state. I remember reading the articles about that car when it was first built and fell in love with it.
Imagine how I felt when I saw it years ago for sale at the Atlantic City auction in such horrible shape. I guess it sold during the auction and I lost track of the car until a year or so later when I saw it parked in front of a freight service company on Delilah Road in Egg Harbor Township, NJ with a for sale sign in the window. (I can get the name / number of that company for you if you'd like to try and contact someone there)

Keep the pictures coming of the project; looks great so far.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuddenDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got it from a guy in Sicklerville, NJ. Looked to have spent years outside in the weather, paint peeling, tires dry rotted, all aluminum oxidized, etc. </div></div>

Wow! Thats one town over from me and I have never seen that car before!

-Matt

[SuddenDeath]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whitetop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you going to replicate the mismatched silver paint?? LOL </div></div>

Actually, I considered it, but thought thats one thing I'm not going to do. It deserves to be done with some quality paint work this time around. In fact, we just sprayed the inner cowl today. First silver paint back on the car in over 35 years. It had been painted white twice! Wow, was that stuff tough to get off!

[SuddenDeath]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom thank you for taking the time to return this car back to it's original state. I remember reading the articles about that car when it was first built and fell in love with it.
Imagine how I felt when I saw it years ago for sale at the Atlantic City auction in such horrible shape. I guess it sold during the auction and I lost track of the car until a year or so later when I saw it parked in front of a freight service company on Delilah Road in Egg Harbor Township, NJ with a for sale sign in the window. (I can get the name / number of that company for you if you'd like to try and contact someone there)

Keep the pictures coming of the project; looks great so far. </div></div>

Dave,

I'm the same way, I remember reading that Sudden Death article in high school and never forgot it. For some reason, there is something about this car that just stuck with me all these years. I just thought it was the coolest Ford I'd ever seen!

Sounds like it was in poor condition when you saw it at auction. Do you remember what year that was? I'm guessing 1997? The car had been in Fort Wayne, Indiana in early 1997 being prepped for auction at a shop there. I wasn't able to get an ID on an owner though. I've already been through title history attempts, but unfortunately, Florida, Michigan, or Indiana do not keep title histories over 10 years, so I came up empty handed. I'm thinking of trying a private investigator in NJ to see if he can get me records, since being out of state, I can't access them there.

Any help is greatly appreciated!!

Will do on pics!

Tom

[SuddenDeath]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Fast67VelleN2O</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuddenDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got it from a guy in Sicklerville, NJ. Looked to have spent years outside in the weather, paint peeling, tires dry rotted, all aluminum oxidized, etc. </div></div>

Wow! Thats one town over from me and I have never seen that car before!

-Matt </div></div>

I don't know if he had the car near his house or not. I don't know the location of the trucking company storage lot where it was kept. I'm hoping maybe Dave can help with that.

[SuddenDeath]

Here are some more in progress pics taken awhile back.

Had to fabricate a repair panel for the notched area of the cowl recess.

Here's a before pic of the engine compartment right after we pulled the engine. Note the gaping holes in the aprons and the rounded out cut in the center of the upper cowl:

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/SDEngineCompartmentEmpty.jpg

After completing the cowl repairs:

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/EngineCompartmentrepairs2.jpg

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/Cowlrepair3.jpg

[SuddenDeath]

This is the rear suspension as I got it, after someone hacked it up installing a coilover/ladder bar setup. They beat the floors in with a hammer until they ripped open, cut holes in the upper floors for the coilovers to mount to the roll bar of all things. I don't know what they were thinking. Thankfully, they didn't cut out the original leaf spring perches and mounts. It took me months of research to get the original setup right, including talking to Wayne Gapp about the car! Funny, once I had removed all the coilover brackets and collected all the correct parts, it just bolted right back in, in an afternoon.

BEFORE as I got it:

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/RoushMustang25.jpg

NOW back to the ORIGINAL setup!

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/SDRearSuspensionResto20.jpg

http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz146/75MustangII/SDRearSuspensionResto18.jpg

[owners2]

That is one Bad Ass ride you have

[Tenney]

Plans for a reunion w/the Lisk Challenger (did they ever end up running in the day?)?

[SuddenDeath]

I think this is one of the few cars from that time that retains its original engine. I know the Lisk car no longer has its original radical pro stock Hemi (or the lenco trans), although it does have a Hemi in it. That would be interesting. Heck, would be great just to see some of these cars together again in any setting after all these years.

[Tenney]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuddenDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Heck, would be great just to see some of these cars together again in any setting after all these years. </div></div>

MCACN Woodward display?

[Plowman]

I like how you think.

[whitetop]

What were the holes cut in the apron for? Header tubes I presume??

[Dicky]

That guy with the timing light looks alot like Joel Rosen.

DH <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

[SuddenDeath]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuddenDeath</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Heck, would be great just to see some of these cars together again in any setting after all these years. </div></div>

MCACN Woodward display? </div></div>

I do plan on getting SD to the Woodward Cruise. Possibly 2013.

[SuddenDeath]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whitetop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What were the holes cut in the apron for? Header tubes I presume?? </div></div>

Roush cut them away to clear the turbo manifolds and down pipes in the back. He used factory pieces, flipped them upside down, the welded turbo mounts on them. Worked great, but required much more room than headers.

[SuddenDeath]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Plans for a reunion w/the Lisk Challenger (did they ever end up running in the day?)?

</div></div>

I haven't gotten anyone to come forward with any real info on the car. From what little I've read (who knows whats true and whats not), Joe ran Lisk and beat him the first time, then Lisk won the next one. I don't know if they ever ran after the turbos were added, since if the mustang could have been managed/driven, it should have been capable of high 8's with that kind of HP.

It still amazes me that the little Mustang ran as fast as it did considering how mild the engine build was originally. It really wasn't anything radical and the car's setup was basic, nothing fancy. Thats how Wayne built the car though.

[Dicky]

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Back to the Street Racing POST.
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Here's what the West coast was up to in '74-'75

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[SuddenDeath]

Sorry Dicky, didn't mean to alleviate from the heading. I was asked for some pics, so offered them up.

[67BelAir427]

The best street racing stories were written by legendary auto journalist Tony DeFeo of Cars Illustrated fame. You can still find him over at the H.A.M.B. under the name &quot;WhitePunkOnNitro&quot;.

[markinnaples]

I remember reading that article in one of my sister's old boyfriend's mags that he gave me.

I never did find out, but it always seemed that The Brotherhood never got their strip, right?

Whatever happened to that whole deal and Big Willie? I remember a couple articles about his Daytona, I believe, but never heard the whole story.

[ric]

I was in high school at the time and happened to pick up that copy of Car Craft in the school library and that story has been locked in my memory ever since.

There's some pretty cool info on Steve Lisk's Challenger floating around the web with pictures of it still in great shape today being freshened up. I wonder what happened to Scott Browns Camaro?

That was a cool article. Thanks for filling in some of the info that I couldn't remember.

[ric]

This just gets better and better! I've been trying for years to remember the magazine and issue this story was in. I thought it was Car Craft but I wasn't sure and I wasn't even sure of the year. Many, many thanks for your post, I just found an issue online and purchased it.

[ric]

I've seen your post's on a few other forums and that's dynamite that you're restoring it. The Mustang II never got much respect but they sure made a sweet looking race car in my opinion. Yours is just bad to the bone, with a history to back it up.

[Tenney]

Seems Joe recently had a b-day ...

http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/showthread.php?t=652803&amp;page=29