7495 mi 1969 Nova 396/375 on eBay..??

[69Tom]

I can't exactly tell what to make of this car. Says it has it's protecto plate. 7495 original miles, yet needed a repaint (I guess people have done it before even though should have kept it original) in what appears to be the incorrect mix for Olympic Gold (that or it's a terrible camera).

On top of it, for a 396/375 documented car, isn't that fairly reasonable? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention to the market as of late....

Nice car tho....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-NOVA...=item1c1fd1446e (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-NOVA-SS-396-4-SPEED-NUMBERS-MATCHING-LOW-MILES-375HP-/120792892526?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item1c1fd1446e )

[PeteLeathersac]

VIN 114279W437572

Larry Clain's old car..
Discussed here a few times;

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=405787&page=1

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/77443/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1


RIP Larry..
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[69Tom]

Ah, you know, I figured it might have been discussed. If I could ever figure out how to accurately search on the forums here.... And I'm pretty good with searches on the net, etc as well. Oh well, sorry guys....

[PeteLeathersac]

No problem Tom..
Anytime Larry's name pops up is great as many here still miss his input on this site..
Surprising something of his other cars hasn't shown up yet..
Anyone know of any updates?.

RIP Larry..
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~ Pete

[RAIIIT/A]

Sellers feedback is -1..

[1969l78]

So its the real deal?

[markjohnson]

I would be extremely weary of ANYTHING that has passed through Larry Clains's hands without bulletproof documentation. To put it quite nicely, he wasn't the straightest shooter and anybody that ever had any kind of financial dealings with him knows what I'm talking about. He burned me for some cash personally and put me through a totally un-necessary ordeal several years ago. By the way, this NOT second-hand heresay, NOT personal opinion, but straight-up FACT.

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

The trim tag looks like a restamp to me,what does everyone else think??

[1969L78Nova]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Nickey Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The trim tag looks like a restamp to me,what does everyone else think?? </div></div>

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[Lynn]

I went to the auction after Larry passed. I had never met Larry face to face, but we had comminicated numerous times over the years. Kept promising I would get up to Tulsa and have a beer with him. Larry's buddy Perry and I went out for a beer after the auction.

At the auction, I remember Perry showing me the numbers matching L-78 Nova (it was right next to one of the earliest disc brake Corvettes with numbers matching 327). IIRC (no guarantee) the Nova was pretty much just a shell with a motor. No accessories on the motor, and pretty rough. I don't remember checking the mileage. Seems like most of the interior was mia. I know for a fact I took many pics of the Corvette numbers and tags (at the request of one of the members here who collect such data) but don't know if I took any pics of the Nova. If I did, I would still have them on an old hard drive at the office.

As for the trim tag, I am pretty good at spotting the fakes on 69 Norwood Camaros, but wouldn't have a clue on the Nova. However, I think it has clearly been off the car, as the apparent reproduction rivets weren't properly installed and aren't hollow. Will defer to the Nova experts on the actual tag.

Some of you guys can spot a fake POP and docs right away. I would supsect fake docs because that address does not show up as a valid address on zillow.com. Not conclusive mind you, but I am pretty sure zillow has mapped the Cleveland suburbs. Not like it would be out in the sticks. That seems to be one of the favorite ploys of the doc fakers. Use a made up name and a non-existent address.

As stated I am not a Nova expert, so any of you guys who are, please correct any of my misinformation.

BTW, if the tag is a fake, someone who KNOWS might want to warn the seller (Chevrolet Dealer in Blanchard OK) that they are about to commit a crime selling a car with a fake trim tag in Oklahoma. They can legally replace the tag with another replacement, but the tag has to have a stamping on it with the words &quot;REPLACEMENT TAG&quot; in letters measuring at least one-eighth (1/8) of an inch in height.

[Mr. Chevy]

Lynn, the POP address in Lakewood, Ohio is a valid address for the supposed original owner... I am very familiar with this Cleveland suburb.. However, I have never heard of the name on the POP and I am certainly not authenticating same.. It could indeed be a fake.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

Evans Chevrolet is in fact real.. I believe it was Rick (Mr 70) who stated in a previous thread about this car that he remembered seeing an Evans Chevrolet decal on this car at one time which would most likely mean it in fact was sold from there...

Rich

[PeteLeathersac]

Earl Evans Painsville sold lots o' performance cars including '69 Copo Camaros and Chevelles also the owner's son Dale an active drag racer..
Isn't site member Grady B's Copo Chevelle an Evans delivered car?.


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Zone # 28
Dealer Code # 164

Earl Evans Chevrolet Inc.
1255 Mebtor Ave.
Painesville Ohio 44077
(Info @ 1967)


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http://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/76_75/115_215/EvansChevPainsvilleOhCamaro-vi-th.jpg (http://hotimg23.fotki.com/p/a/76_75/115_215/EvansChevPainsvilleOhCamaro-vi.jpg)

[mockingbird812]

I think you are right Pete.

[Lynn]

Rich. there is a 1307 Ethel Ave (not street) and a 1311, but they are next door. No 1309.

Is there an Ethel Street as well as an Ethel Ave?

Not saying this is the case. But this wouldn't be the first time a doc faker has gone to great lengths to make docs look legit.

I had no doubt about Earl Evans Chev.

[Schonyenko2]

I seem to remember Larry stopping by Frank Magallion's &quot;Hvychvy&quot; place when he was taking the car home after picking it up. Larry called me about it a couple of times just to ask some questions, and shoot the bull. Maybe Frankie has some insight on it.

I hate it when they paint the grille filler panel body color.

[1969L78Nova]

I blew up the picture of the POP....Compared it to my known original POP....The CHEVY logo does not look quite right.

[Mr. Chevy]

Lynn, there is a 1309 Ethel. If you Google the address you can zoom in on an actual picture of the home. It is a duplex and 1307 is directly next door... There is only 1 Ethel in Lakewood... My buddy is a Lakewood PD officer and he confirmed same...

Yes, Grady's COPO Chevelle is an Evans sold car...

Rich

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/RICHRUTT/Picture2497-1.jpg

This was just before Grady smoked the tires from the traffic light.... Before somebody makes a comment on the right tail light, the turn signal was on which is why it is out...

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/RICHRUTT/Picture2866-1.jpg

[Lynn]

Thanks Rich: Being the other side of a duplex explains why it didn't show up on my search.