Mallory Ignition Parts

[Nova Jed]

Does anyone have any info on any of the Vintage Mallory Coils or the CD ignition systems?

[Salvatore]

yea, a stock Chevy distributor curved and set up on a machine is just as good.

[Nova Jed]

Sam, I'm talking about the coil and distibutor that mockingbird has on his Deuce.

[PxTx]

Jed, do yourself a favor, if the car is to be street driven and enjoyed, follow Sam's advice and custome tune a stock dizzy with a vacuum advance. You can still add any CD kit, cap and wires you choose.

You know who can help dial that thing in!

[Nova Jed]

I wanted to call him tonight! Lol. But got too late.

[mockingbird812]

Hey Jed,

My mallory dizzy in the Deuce, altho it has 2 sets of points, is not really any more of a hot set up, by itself, than the stock GM. Each set of points just alternate taking the spark from the coil. It is mechanical advance only. The dizzy has just one condenser for both sets of points. The benefit is longer lasting points (theoretically lasting twice as long). I believe my Mk II coil that I use with this dizzy is a bit hotter than a standard GM coil, though. What I have learned of most recently is about the rev/pol dizzy and coil. My understanding is this dizzy has 2 sets of points also but, they each fire at the same time and produce a more intense spark at the spark plug as a result. There are TWO condensers on this dizzy - one for each set of points. I have tracked down an nos YC-310 rev/pol dizzy (with two brass external condensers) and I will continue to look for a Mallory rev/pol coil to mate to it. This should be a noticeable performance upgrade. BTW, the rev/pol dizzies and coils are a bit more rare and expensive than the standard stuff. I will save this for a future day two project to be named later!

I think there is a Mallory switch for the cockpit that allows you to switch the polarity of the coil for street/strip use, but am not sure exactly how this works.

[Nova Jed]

Sam, I didn't want to let this out yet, but I have an NOS YC-310-HP. Not any cheaper than the new ones. Dated Aug 71. I also have an NOS Mallory CDNA-1 on it's way. Dated 69. I wanted to know what coil can be used with this combo? I almost had an NOS 28675 coil.

[mockingbird812]

Cool Jed. is your 310 a rev/pol w/ 2 condensers? I am not familiar with cdna. Mike our new sponsor has done some beautiful restos of mallory systems. I am pretty sure he did Mark Murphy's Mallory set up. Some other brainiacs around here should be able to advise you on various set ups and combos.


I like where you are going with this Jed-i!!!!!

[Nova Jed]

Sam, it isn't a Rev Pol. It's just like your YC 465 HP but without the Tach drive. The CDNA is an early Mallory Capacitive Discharge ignition. Kinda like a 6A or 6 AL of today. There is one coil that I found that is for a CD ignition, but not sure if it's right for this setup?

[mockingbird812]

I took this off of HAMB (btw, the "Double-life" is what I have on my Deuce right now):

<span style="font-style: italic">Double-life:
4-lobe cam, two separate sets of points connected together with one condensor. This is wired to a normal coil.
The only benefit of this over a normal single point distributor is that the points last longer as each set is only firing 4 times per revolution.


Rev-pol:
4-lobe cam, two separate sets of points, each with their own condenser and wired to separate primaries on the special Rev-pol coil. This coil has a single secondary terminal that connects to the distributor cap.
My guess is that this offers some of the benefits of a dual-coil setup without having to use two coils and a special distributor cap.


Hence, if you have a Rev-pol, but can't find the special coil, you can remove the second condenser, wire the points together and run it with a normal coil.

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<span style="color: #009900"> <span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">Any of you smarty-pants out there confirm this or expand upon it?</span></span></span> <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif

[mockingbird812]

More info found....



<span style="font-style: italic">...the dual point ignitions had point sets that are are offset a few degrees on the point plate... one set opens the circuit and the other set closes the circuit therefore giving the coil more saturation time (dwell) in the same 30 degrees of crank rotation as single points. I had a Mallory Rev-Pol distributor in my '56 Chevy which worked very well with 11:1 compression ratio and at 6500 RPM. Pontiac introduced the transistorized ignition system in 1963 and that system was far better than any of the dual point systems.The Mallory Rev-Pol distributor had dual coils and dual external capacitors. The Rev-Pol dual points were operated by a 4-lobe distributor cam which increased coil saturation time and reduced point bounce at high RPM. With a point type ignition, coil output voltage is reduced because coil saturation time decreases as the RPM increases and that is when dual points will help maintain coil saturation time at high RPM. Today, one of the best replacements for a point type ignition is a Pertronix electronic coversion kit. The Pertronix kit provides the same amount of coil saturation time at infinite RPM as it does at idle RPM. However, that kit is not as good as a stock GM high energy ignition found on cars today. The HEI systems on GM vehicles is not necessary for high compression ratios or high RPM but it is required to fire the lean fuel-air mixtures that were mandated by the EPA to reduce emmissions.

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[Salvatore]

Jed-I use that black Mallory coil that bolts to the firewall. They look great for the Day-2 look. My stock single point went to 8 grand with no problems back in the day. Accel points with a good distributor curve set-up and you are done. I bet your motor will not see over 6,000 much so you will be fine in any case. I have a big yellow Accel coil in the box if interested and also early Accel wires that were never used. Come on over!

[mockingbird812]

Sammy has lots of cool stuff!!!

[PxTx]

Okay, who's run a dual point dizzy and wired in a switch to eliminate the first set of points to retard ignition timing on the top end? Don't see how you could do that with a double life.

[Salvatore]

retard timing on this Site?

[Nova Jed]

Flat out foot to the floor!

[mockingbird812]

Paul - don't think you can do it with a &quot;double life&quot;. Altho there are 2 sets of points, they are being fired with the same coil (single winding) at the same time (or nearly so) in order to increase dwell, whereas the rev/pol is two distinct circuits (2 coil windings, 2 condensers, 2 points).

[Nova Jed]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jed-I use that black Mallory coil that bolts to the firewall. They look great for the Day-2 look. My stock single point went to 8 grand with no problems back in the day. Accel points with a good distributor curve set-up and you are done. I bet your motor will not see over 6,000 much so you will be fine in any case. I have a big yellow Accel coil in the box if interested and also early Accel wires that were never used. Come on over! </div></div>

True Sam. It won't see 8 grand with this motor. I would be lucky enough to get it up to 5 or 6 with an auto?? The cam is good for 5500, so maybe?

[Salvatore]

a pure stock Chevy unit is good enough for that Captain Jed! Don't get to trick on yourself my son.

[Nova Jed]

Just got my 40 yr old Mallory 28675 today. Its amazing that something this old works better than my 5 yr old coil. Cleaned it up and tested it out on my 55. The tired 265 ran 3 times better. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif They don't make things like they used to.

[markjohnson]

Mankinds' greatest mechancial achievment is the General Motors HEI Ignition!

[Nova Jed]

True Mark, but I'm a glutton for punishment. I highly doubt that this stuff will stay in the car?

[Nova Jed]

Got my Mallory CDNA-1 unit this week. From what the instructions state, it is just like a modern ignition box, but 1969 vintage. Pics to come soon.

[mockingbird812]

Good deal Jed. Does this still require a separate coil?

[Nova Jed]

Coil #28675 Sam. And you can detach the box to run it with just the coil. The box instructions are dated 9/69. SWEET!

[mockingbird812]

Cool - I have the 28675, &quot;markII&quot; I think, on my Nova too. Let me know what kind of performance improvement you get.

[Nova Jed]

I will do Sam, but it will be a long while before my Tone Blue is on the road.

[Plowman]

That Mallory CDNA-1 is a &quot;off road&quot; unit.

[PxTx]

When Scott S brought his recently acquired 1969 Phase III Chevelle (originally owned by Joe G) out to the Solid Lifter Showroom this year, he actually had the original CDNA-1 box with him. That thing is seriously heavy!

That was the original Phase III ignition on Joe's car, and later updated to the popular finned box. I don't recall the story of why the box was updated, but fortunately it was stashed away and stayed with the car.

[Nova Jed]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Plowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That Mallory CDNA-1 is a &quot;off road&quot; unit. </div></div>
Just like the Z-28 Trans Am cam? Or anything Hi-Po in CA? Lol

Pxtx, this thing has some weight to it. Its all sandcast alluminum.

[PxTx]

Post #43859 from JoeG in 2003

Hello pxtx,
1968-1969----The MALLORY CD IGN. called the &quot;Magic Box&quot;
Around 1970--PhaseIII CD[Jacobs Electonic Unit] was introduced and used for a while.
After that, I guess the one JoeC is showing
After that the Energizer Bunny. -----JoeG

Maybe we should either bump this thread posting pics of your Magic Box or stat a new one in he Day II section under ignition systems.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=421852&amp;page=1

[Nova Jed]

You got the bump.

[Nova Jed]

Pics

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[Nova Jed]

pics

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[Nova Jed]

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[Nova Jed]

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[Nova Jed]

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[67BobcatGTO]

Hi Guys. That coil pictured....is there a date on the instructions? That is not of the same vintage as the distributor. The Mallory logo is the later version. That coil was avail through the 80's.

If anyone has questions on old Mallory stuff. I have a large collection of NOS and used parts, distributors, coils, kits etc. and literally binders of original sales literature and catalogs from the 30's through the present.

The Mr. Gasket group even refers their inquiries on vintage stuff to me on a regular basis.

Mike

[mockingbird812]

Thanks for the offer Mike. I, and others, will have a few questions I am sure.

[Nova Jed]

Mike, I was told the coil came off an MG. No dates. Everything else is dated 69 and 70.

[Nova Jed]

Does anyone know what the 28675A coil is used for?

[Plowman]

67BobcatGTO I pm you and have a question. Do you have a N.O.S. coil,the year I need is 1969. If so or not do you have the part number. Thank you. Paul

[Nova Jed]

Paul, my coil is around the early 70's. I just found out. I'm not sure if the blue Mallory lettering and white Mallory lettering tells the tale of the year?

[mockingbird812]

Paul - if Mike does not have your coil there are opportunities to buy them at HAMB or ebay in NOS condition. However,there are a lot of vintage &quot;Mallory Coils&quot; out there for multiple applications ranging from standard to rather exotic-for-its-day (built in Capacitive Discharge). There are also external, stand-alone Mallory CD ignitions that work with standard Mallory coils. Lots of choices. Mike can help you get the right one for your application. The HAMB boys are pretty up on these coils too.

In case you missed it, this is the set up that I restored for my Nova (the coil is NOS and needed very little work):


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mockingbird812/70%20Roof%20Deuce/Restored%20Components/DSC_0043-1.jpg

[Nova Jed]

Sam, what is the difference between your distributor and mine?

[whitetop]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nova Jed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paul, my coil is around the early 70's. I just found out. I'm not sure if the blue Mallory lettering and white Mallory lettering tells the tale of the year? </div></div>

If your decal/top plate is blue has nothing to do with the year the coil was made.

The red is for 12v negative ground cars-99% of muscle cars and American cars in general. I can't remember exactly but I believe blue is for 12 volt positive ground cars(volkswagons/furren cars??) or something to that affect ..hence it won't work with your car......I can't remember what the blue one was for off hand but but will try to look it up this evening. Hate to give you this bad news.

What is the number of the coil? I will look it up in my mallory books and let you know the application.

[mockingbird812]

Jed - not sure I know if there is a difference. I read Mike's comment on yours. I would be interested to know the range of dates that yours (my) coil were made.

[whitetop]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jed - not sure I know if there is a difference. I read Mike's comment on yours. I would be interested to know the range of dates that yours (my) coil were made. </div></div>

You coil was 66-67 ish to at least the mid 80's. They never changed for th emost part..kinda like the Accel Super coil. The Super Coil made today shape wise is pretty much identical to the ones made in the early 70's other than the decal.

[Plowman]

Thanks all and I will look at the HAMB site,I should try that. Paul

[Nova Jed]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whitetop</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nova Jed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paul, my coil is around the early 70's. I just found out. I'm not sure if the blue Mallory lettering and white Mallory lettering tells the tale of the year? </div></div>

If your decal/top plate is blue has nothing to do with the year the coil was made.

The red is for 12v negative ground cars-99% of muscle cars and American cars in general. I can't remember exactly but I believe blue is for 12 volt positive ground cars or something to that affect ..hence it won't work with your car......I can't remember what the blue one was for off hand but but will try to look it up this evening. Hate to give you this bad news.

What is the number of the coil? I will look it up in my mallory books and let you know the application. </div></div>

Whitetop, I was talking about the actual color of the words Mallory on the side of the coil. Some are red and blue and others are red and white. I thought that most of the top decals were red for the points negative ground coils?

[67BobcatGTO]

The 28675A number is for the Rev-Pol transformer.

[mockingbird812]

Hey Mike,

Can you explain how the rev/pol coil works in conjunction with the rev/pol distributor and rev/pol switch for inside the car?

Thanks

[67BobcatGTO]

I was pm'd a question about the correct '69 coil.

The correct coil that was available in 1969 is the very one pictured in mockingbirds photo. It has the red/blue large side decal and the early logo on the ID tag.

[67BobcatGTO]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Mike,

Can you explain how the rev/pol coil works in conjunction with the rev/pol distributor and rev/pol switch for inside the car?

Thanks </div></div>

Yes I can do this tomorrow.... I am turning in for the night.

[Nova Jed]

Ok, Mike I see that mine is not the correct one.

[Nova Jed]

Something New but Old.

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[Nova Jed]

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[Nova Jed]

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[Salvatore]

Nice Jed-I.

[Nova Jed]

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[Plowman]

Nice stuff,can I have it. Thank's for all the Mallory help everybody. *Paul

[Nova Jed]

You don't have a Rev Pol switch do you Paul?

[Plowman]

I have pm you. And I do not have one but we can make one. Paul

[mockingbird812]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nova Jed</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1695.jpg </div></div>

Hmmm <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif , I was under the impression that the rev/pol switch was for a rev/pol coil AND a rev/pol (dual condenser) dizzy set up. It looks like it works with a single condenser (dual point) dizzy (per the schematic above). So, by reversing the polarity with this switch, does this create more timing advance for racing?

Is the advantage with using the <span style="text-decoration: underline">rev/pol coil and switch with the rev/pol (dual condenser/dual point dizzy)</span> that it provides simultaneous spark at each of the 2 points (each with their own condenser) and therefore a hotter spark with the option to advance the spark (with the switch) for racing????? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

I think my head hurts! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif

[Nova Jed]

From reading the Rev Pol instructions Sam, it seems to me that the 28700 switch bypasses the resistor for racing to eliminate any kind of resistance to the coil to give it a full twelve volts and then knock it down for street? But as I can see from the schematic, there is no second condenser. Even the Mopar Rev Pol that is on eBay now, it has only one condenser. I'm sure that someone else can help on this.

[Plowman]

That is one big CONDENSER,next to a stock GM one. I think it can handle it. *Paul

[Nova Jed]

Reverse Polarity! Rev Pol.

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[Plowman]

So you got what you wanted,with blue light,is that it because that is looking sooooo cool Jed. What a difference a DAY makes. OH that is only a picture,good luck. *Paul

[Nova Jed]

Yes, just a picture I had saved Paul. But that's what it looks like. The diagrahm that's in that photo is the same one that I have with my Rev Pol coil.

[67BobcatGTO]

Ok well I finally had some time to dig through my literature and found sales lit on the &quot;NEW&quot; Rev-Pol models.

It states this:

The Rev-Pol ignition system changes the direct current to alternating current, which produces a complete reversal of the polarity of the core of the transformer, which in turn produces a long magnetic wave inducing a spark of long duration and of high value every time the contact point open and close. The contact life is twice as long, the rubbing block life is twice as long as in the conventional system. The system will operate any motor to speeds far above the conventional system on less current.

It also states the Rev-Pol distributor uses a 4-lobe cam with two circuit breakers for the 8 Cylinder and a 3-lobe cam for the 6 cylinder distributor, giving unlimited RPM with no breaker bounce.

-Mike

[67BobcatGTO]

Another doc talks about the &quot;new&quot; 10,000 RPM high performance ignitition system. It reads: the NEW street-strip performance switch lets you control current from the dash.

Complete Rev-Pol igntition system produces more voltage faster than any existing conventional battery ignition. Extra hot long duration spark gives top performance at every speed with higher RPM's.

The Rev-Pol distributor is hi-performance advance curved for maximum ignition output throughout the RPM range. Special dual points eliminate float and bounce.

The Rev-Pol Transformer changes direct current to alternating current and reverses polarity of transformer core to produce a long duration and high value &quot;magneto action&quot; spark.

The NEW Street/Strip switch lets you increase the primary current from the dash whenever extra-hi-performance is needed.

-Mike

[67BobcatGTO]

I also cracked open my NOS in the box Chevy Rev-Pol set-up complete with Street/Strip switch and read the instructions. They don't talk alot about what the switch actually does but does make WARNING to NEVER operate the system in the &quot;STRIP&quot; poition under normal driving conditions. LOL.

-Mike Mancini

[Nova Jed]

Good stuff Mike! That's a lot more info than I had with the Rev Pol transformer. It also sounds like there are no diferences between a Double Life and a Rev Pol distributor? Maybe you can clarify that a little better since you have an NOS Rev Pol distributor?

Good info! Thanks

Jed

[mockingbird812]

Jed - the one big diff betw dbl life and rev/pol dizzys is the latter has TWO condensers - one supporting each set of points separately (the dbl life has one condenser for both sets of points). So, I think you can send a hotter spark (twice as much?) to the spark plugs with a rev/pol dizzy.

[Nova Jed]

Sam, I have no clue on that one. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif The schematics show the dizzy as having only one condenser???? And the replacement parts list show only one condenser too, but if there were two, I'm sure they would be the same part number. So... maybe Mike can clarify if the RevPol dizzy had two condensers? I know I'm stumped.

[mockingbird812]

Jed,

I have an NOS HP 310 Rev/Pol dizzy with two condensers. I don't have a picture available. This type is designed to have two independent circuits. With the rev/pol double condenser, each condenser is only in circuit with one of the condensers vs with the double life (single condenser) one condenser feeds both points (breakers).

[Nova Jed]

Ugh! I was afraid of that Sam! Are you going to the show this week?

[mockingbird812]

Yes - I will be there with BELLS! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[JoeC]

the double life name was from each set of points working half the time so they lasted twice as long

the Rev Pol name was for reverse polarity that was used in their special design coil. The rev pol system would give a hotter spark that they claim was like a magneto

[Nova Jed]

Sweet!! I can't wait to meet you. I will bring some of my toys with when I come out with bbbenny.

[mockingbird812]

Very cool Jed. BTW, bbbenny will be bringing a couple of my toys with him to the show.

[Nova Jed]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JoeC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the double life name was from each set of points working half the time so they lasted twice as long

the Rev Pol name was for reverse polarity that was used in their special design coil. The rev pol system would give a hotter spark that they claim was like a magneto </div></div>

Joe, I just had a chance to reread the posts. I think they were trying to tell me the same thing that you said, but I was a wee &quot;dizzy&quot; myself. It all makes sense. Didn't want to sound rude.

[Nova Jed]

Rev-Pol switch is in!!! Seems to be nothing more than a two position switch with a big blue light??? The directions are nothing more than what I had posted of the Rev-Pol coil. Very odd. .... I will take pics of the switch in detail. ( Not much really to it.)

I also received my Mallory ignition overhaul kit that is dated 2/72. The Mallory sticker on the front is in the blue lettering and the tag on the top is the red foil sticker, not the red anodized aluminum plate.

[Salvatore]

Hey &quot;dizzy&quot; that distributor still won't run any better than a stock Chevy set up correctly. But have fun anyway!

[mockingbird812]

Come on Sammy. It's not all about the best performance. Its got to look REAL GOOD * too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif


*...and of course be period correct! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[PxTx]

Most of the Motion cars at the show were running a Mallory distributor. All the cool kids are doing it!

[mockingbird812]

I noticed that too Paul. I knew most ran Mallory dizzys but did not know most used the Mallory coils and Capacitive Discharge.

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Come on Sammy. It's not all about the best performance. Its got to look REAL GOOD * too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif


*...and of course be period correct! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif </div></div>well, you are right Mr. President!

[Nova Jed]

Sammy, I thought you were the Prez? The COPO and the display got rave reviews. A gold in Day-2 concourse says it all.

It will be awhile until I can get pics of the switch up. I left my camera in the professors trunk. Duh me.

[Nova Jed]

The switch!

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[Nova Jed]

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[Nova Jed]

The 2/72 Coil.

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[Nova Jed]

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[Nova Jed]

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The odd thing about this coil is that it seems to have a thin metal plate isntead of a foil sticker??

[mockingbird812]

Here is the complete rev/pol kit for an AMX. Evidently these things were sold as a package.

AMX Rev/Pol on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-AMC-AMX-Mallory-Rev-Pol-Ignition-System-Group-19-Hi-Perf-SC-Rambler-/180761977989?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorie s&amp;vxp=mtr&amp;hash=item2a1640e485#ht_600wt_949)

[Nova Jed]

It looks like that dizzy has one condenser and a vacuum advance?

[mockingbird812]

I does Jed. I believe a rev/pol set up could use one or two condensers.

[JoeC]

I saw this in Summit
a Mallory elec conversion kit , says fits the HP series

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MAA-61004M/Application/?query=Distributor+Model%7cHP+series

[mockingbird812]

Malloery E Spark Conversion Kit for &quot;HP&quot; (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MAA-61004M/Application/?query=Distributor+Model%7cHP+series)

[Nova Jed]

Will that work on one on those dizzy's?

[mockingbird812]

Apparently the HP series.

[Nova Jed]

Well, I guess it would work for us? That is if you have the right coil. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[Nova Jed]

A little treat is on it's way!

[PxTx]

More RevPol specific stuff!?!

[Nova Jed]

Ta DAAAA!

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/31054a.jpg

[PxTx]

SST-816! OMG man is that think NOS in the box?

[Nova Jed]

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1757.jpg

[PxTx]

I think you'll need a tach that goes to Eleven (insert British accent).

[Nova Jed]

Perfect NOS MINT in the box.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1756.jpg

[mockingbird812]

Nice score Jed. Very nice piece!!

[PxTx]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nova Jed</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Perfect NOS MINT in the box.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj88/NovaJed/100_1756.jpg </div></div>

Is that picture from the future? Nice to know they are finding NOS Sun Super tach in the year 2140!

[Nova Jed]

HA HA HA! I did not know that my camera had changed!

[Plowman]

Nice score Jed,so cool.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

So, looking back on this thread what was the conclusion on the Mallory setup?

- stick with a stock GM unit, perhaps with an under-the-cap conversion
- Mallory single point with Mallory coil
- Mallory double point with Mallory coil
- Mallory rev pol with 'strip' switch and Mallory coil

I need to decide on the initial setup to install in Ben's Nova within the next week or so.....

[mockingbird812]

For a nice vintage look and good performance a Mallory YC-310-HP or its variants will do a nice job. Parts are readily available.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Can you install a breakerless kit under the cap?

[mockingbird812]

i believe those are available. I'll check

[mockingbird812]

Sounds like you can. Take a look here! (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/mallory-yc-share-your-expertise.800729/)

[mockingbird812]

Hard to knock the look.........

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2016/04/full-1691-41682-image.jpg

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Agree 100%, I'm on a mission! Thanks <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[PxTx]

Talk to Jed. He doesn'doesn't seem to be around here much but I know he has plenty of great stuff and he was just saying he might start ebaying stuff.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Ok, thanks.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I caught up with Jed last night, he has everything I need / want - NOS! That pic of the setup used in the Roof Deuce did it for me. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Benjamin has no clue how fortunate he is..... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[Nova Jed]

Hey! Im still around! Just been busy with a house and wife and two dogs and trying to make little NovaJeds. Lol I did catch up with Marlin and I do have most of what he needs. The only thing I dont have is Mallory NOS wires. I do have the coil and the dizzy though.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

So, I have this Mallory setup, but stupid question: how do I determine the #1 spark plug wire on the cap? I had picked up a used unit some time ago, but no instructions - and I'm getting close to the point of needing to install this thing and fire the engine....

[Verne_Frantz]

Marlin,
You can make #1 anywhere you want it to be. With the engine at TDC on #1 firing stroke, put in the distributor with the rotor pointing where-ever you want, then just put #1 plug wire in the cap hole above it. Follow the cap holes CW with the firing order.

Verne:biggthumpup:

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I see, thanks!

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Sam, where did you get the brass thing on the side and all the nice shiney clips?

[mockingbird812]

Marlin,

The brass thing is an original Mallory condenser. I am pretty sure I found it on ebay. If you put "vintage Mallory" in Ebay search they come up with some regularity (1 to 2 x /month) although they're getting pricey i.e. I've seen transactions at upwards of $60 for an NOS in the box. Most who sell them don't know how to test them so that is a crap shoot - on the other hand they generally hold up well over time. Many will have slight splits in the brass casing but this does not necessarily affect performance and can be rotated on the dizzy to hide the split. The clips are the original cap clips on the Mallory dizzy that the Roofs used in their Deuce. I did my own plating to restore them to their original luster. Now that would be a fun father/son project!

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Thanks Sam, I'm cleaning up the unit that I have, and will install a breakerless module inside as well - turns out they have different modules for the 4 lobe vs 8 lobe dizzy's! I have a 4 lobe unite which I assume is a 'Double Life' - guess I need to find one of those tags as well.....

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Also, if converted to an electronic module, would a ballast resistor still be necessary - if so, what part number applies (or will any of them do)?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I don't have the time to figure this out, as I need to get this car running in a few months. I'm going with a stock unit with a Mallory Unilite conversion. I'll get back to the Double Life unit in 6 months or so.....