2012 Boss 302

[Justbad Joe]

Has anyone else drove one of these animals? All I can say is WOW!!!
Joe <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[flyingn]

They are quite amazing, aren't they?

[Mayhem]

The Shelby version has bigger motor, supercharger, more horsepower, and a not so tacky paint job.
Yes it's $9k more, but ...

[69 Post Sedan]

I drove a GT500 this past summer and that car was very impressive. I definitely enjoyed it.

Kurt

[Dave Rifkin]

That may be true but, I think the Boss 302 is supposed to be a better balanced car. I think Ford used the BMW M3 as their target when developing the Boss.

[mockingbird812]

302 beat the M3 at Leguna SECA.

[Justbad Joe]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">302 beat the M3 at Leguna SECA. </div></div>
It also beat 5 other cars. I believe it was rated as high as 5 out of 11 contestants and has the lowest price tag. This car is stable at 140mph in 5th with 1 more gear to go! Not to say the least that this thing doesn't seem to ever stop pulling. Can't wait to see what the Track Key has to offer. As far as the look of the car, its retro Boss302 and badass! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif
Joe

[DarrenX33]

Rich Pern just bought one. Maybe he will chime in.

[Jeff H]

They are awesome cars but they seem to have an oiling issue and I know of a few that have already lost their engines so it sounds like they need a little more engineering to fix that problem. Has anyone heard if they made changes to the motor yet to take care of the oiling issue?

[Norm reynolds]

ya I did I was not impressed yes it fast BUT not that fast There was many cars in the 60s that I have drove that was just way faster than it
I think the chevy and dodge will be knocking on fords doors next year
also have you seen how that oiling system works with the cam to retard it
what a nightmare
Yes there is a big problem with the oil system

[rich p]

Think the SRT-8 Jeep can beat it!! Anybody see motor trend on the Jeep?? Was blowing by 911's in the rain. Was doing 165mph in the straight away!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[Norm reynolds]

Hey Rich I am with you on this
It seem there are a few on this site think the 5-0 is king ( Me I AM NOT ONE OF THEM) I know for a fact the jeep str8 can beat the GT500 5.0
A few days ago my friend ran a GT 500 Up on I (95) and walked right passed the mustang The 5.0 COULD NOT BEAT that brick on wheels
Then The stang lost oil pressure and that was the end story
I said earlier I was once in the business and have spoke to the Ford people and I have been told there seems to be a major problem with the newer 5.0 oiling system
I do not own a str8 jeep but my son has an )05 grand cherokee with a 4.7 v8
and I have MY SELF ran
many stock 5,0s and I have beat them every time right off the line
and remember the 05 grand cherokee had all four wheel engaged and that thing is heavy as hell and it still out runs a stock 5.0 NOW That jeep really impressed me My own jeep I have the old dependable 4.0 inline six
It is not a fast jeep but it is easy as hell to work on and 4.0 has a history of lasting well over 300,000 miles and THAT is why I bought it. I had a 4x4 91 blazer before the jeep and for me once you own a 4x4 you will always have a 4x4
Ok I said my peace Now I know I WILL get slammed that the 5,0 is king
all I can say is what ever

[flyingn]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That may be true but, I think the Boss 302 is supposed to be a better balanced car. I think Ford used the BMW M3 as their target when developing the Boss. </div></div>

and thoroughly trounced the M3 at Laguna Seca. The Boss is a normally aspirated 302 with almost 450 hp, . Quite impressive as its got CNC-machined cylinder heads; 11:1 compression, 8.5 quart oil pan, Sodium-filled exhaust valves; forged pistons, connecting rods and crankshaft and can safely turn 7500 rpm. Its a killer motor

[flyingn]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norm reynolds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ya I did I was not impressed yes it fast BUT not that fast There was many cars in the 60s that I have drove that was just way faster than it
I think the chevy and dodge will be knocking on fords doors next year
also have you seen how that oiling system works with the cam to retard it
what a nightmare
Yes there is a big problem with the oil system </div></div>

No oiling issues. Not true. There was a lean #8 issue on the regular 302 in the GT if the aftermarket tune was too lean, maybe that what you are thinking of? And there has been some oil using issues with a few Boss 302's but no oil pressure issue

[flyingn]

Norm, clueless again... New srt8 jeeps run 0-60 4.8 and mid 13's in the quarter. Faster then the older SRT8&quot;s The old 3v 4.6 Mustangs are as fast as that.. New 5.0's run mid to low 12's stock and boss's low 12's. Do your homework Norm... The GT500 and the 5.0 has nothing in common. NOTHING

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/20/2012-jeep-grand-cherokee-srt8-quickest-jeep-ever/


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Norm reynolds</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Rich I am with you on this
It seem there are a few on this site think the 5-0 is king ( Me I AM NOT ONE OF THEM) I know for a fact the jeep str8 can beat the GT500 5.0
A few days ago my friend ran a GT 500 Up on I (95) and walked right passed the mustang The 5.0 COULD NOT BEAT that brick on wheels
Then The stang lost oil pressure and that was the end story
I said earlier I was once in the business and have spoke to the Ford people and I have been told there seems to be a major problem with the newer 5.0 oiling system
I do not own a str8 jeep but my son has an )05 grand cherokee with a 4.7 v8
and I have MY SELF ran
many stock 5,0s and I have beat them every time right off the line
and remember the 05 grand cherokee had all four wheel engaged and that thing is heavy as hell and it still out runs a stock 5.0 NOW That jeep really impressed me My own jeep I have the old dependable 4.0 inline six
It is not a fast jeep but it is easy as hell to work on and 4.0 has a history of lasting well over 300,000 miles and THAT is why I bought it. I had a 4x4 91 blazer before the jeep and for me once you own a 4x4 you will always have a 4x4
Ok I said my peace Now I know I WILL get slammed that the 5,0 is king
all I can say is what ever </div></div>

[Norm reynolds]

just have pass time on speed right and Str8 jeep ran 12.29
and the guy fell asleep at the tree

[flyingn]

falling asleep at the tree makes no difference in 1/4 mile time. That was obviously not stock. Use your brain..

[Jeff H]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No oiling issues. Not true. There was a lean #8 issue on the regular 302 in the GT if the aftermarket tune was too lean, maybe that what you are thinking of? And there has been some oil using issues with a few Boss 302's but no oil pressure issue </div></div>

You are correct, I was thinking Boss 302 but it was the new 5.0 that has the problems, both lean on #8 and rapid oil usage leading to engine failure.

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">falling asleep at the tree makes no difference in 1/4 mile time. That was obviously not stock. Use your brain.. </div></div>

Eh, give it up. Norm is apparently on a quest to single-handedly run Ford Motor Company out of business.

I'll admit, though, after Norm's last post I'm coming around. I wasn't aware that lots of cars in the 60's could trap 120+ in the quarter stock. That's what a Boss 302 traps, and Norm says lots of cars back then were <span style="font-style: italic">way</span> faster. And I wasn't aware that 2005 Grand Cherokees could run 12's. Heck, let's just sell our musclecars. Grand Cherokees for everybody! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

[old5.0]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeff H</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No oiling issues. Not true. There was a lean #8 issue on the regular 302 in the GT if the aftermarket tune was too lean, maybe that what you are thinking of? And there has been some oil using issues with a few Boss 302's but no oil pressure issue </div></div>

You are correct, I was thinking Boss 302 but it was the new 5.0 that has the problems, both lean on #8 and rapid oil usage leading to engine failure.
</div></div>

Cruised through a few Mustang forums. Small percentage reported oil consumption issues. Most of that percentage reported the consumption ceased after 4,000 miles. No engine failures reported. I'd bet most of the failures are originating with the &quot;throttle it to the ground and never bother learning where the hood release is&quot; crowd.

I seem to recall the LS1 having a similar issue upon it's introduction. Minor annoyance then and now.

[Justbad Joe]

Its a car not a soccer moms ride. Mustangs are iconic, to compare it to a Jeep is beyond me. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif This car beat out a 400k Lexus at Leguna Seca and ranked 5th overall. Where is a Jeep in the top 11? Maybe they should put it up againest a Duramax. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif!!
Joe