69 Z/28 RS Cross Ram JL8 Black Seattle area

[69z28302]

My friend restored a 69 Z/28/RS and added the Cross Ram and the JL* rearend to the car. This was in the mid-ninty's. It also had black houndstooth interior. We haven't seen or heard about the car since it went out west to Seattle.

Just wondering if anyone on the site has seen or heard about Allen's old car lately? It was a beauty

[MosportGreen66]

Any shot it was an original LeMans Blue that happened to be painted black at the time? Figure it was a stretch but doesn't hurt to ask...

[69z28302]

No , this car was a 10 10 car that originaly came out of North Georgia.

[69z28302]

Here are some pictures of pictures 35mm I took of Allen's car before restoration.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii312/rpoz28302/TracBars002-1.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii312/rpoz28302/TracBars003.jpg

[Dave Rifkin]

If my car looked that good prior to any restoration work I think I'd leave it as-is.

[69z28302]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Rifkin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If my car looked that good prior to any restoration work I think I'd leave it as-is. </div></div>

The car looked great as you can see when Allen bought it from a friend of Rick George.

[firstgenaddict]

WOW what in the heck was going on in North GA in 1969? ? ?

William's (10 10 RS/Z) Black survivor was bought new in North Ga as well, also an endura car.
http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/28509/2852313580059464720S600x600Q85.jpg

[jl8z28]

was this car at Super Chevy in Richmond back in the 90s. I took pictures of it. nice car if the same one

[Astock]

Dave Lindsley had one just like that in the late 90's. He bought it from a guy in Canada that only owned for a short time.

[Xplantdad]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Astock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dave Lindsley had one just like that in the late 90's. He bought it from a guy in Canada that only owned for a short time. </div></div>

That doesn't surprise me...Dave has had some great cars! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[jl8z28]

I think that the guy that owned it was around my age or a little younger dave is older

[whitecoupe]

I watched Allen resto that car from start to finish.It was in great shape to start with. Sometimes Al would let me help a little and that would make my day (LOL).I bought those American Racing wheels from him and run them on my car from time to time.
I've always wondered what happened to the black Z. I've seen a lot of high dollar big name restos in my travels and Al's black Z is right up there with them.
Thanks Al i'll never forget all those little tricks you taught me about building a car.

Richard

[69z28302]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whitecoupe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I watched Allen resto that car from start to finish.It was in great shape to start with. Sometimes Al would let me help a little and that would make my day (LOL).I bought those American Racing wheels from him and run them on my car from time to time.
I've always wondered what happened to the black Z. I've seen a lot of high dollar big name restos in my travels and Al's black Z is right up there with them.
Thanks Al i'll never forget all those little tricks you taught me about building a car.

Richard</div></div>

Richard you know this car and it was nice. Allen told me the guy that bought also had a 69 Leman's Blue Yenko camaro that he asked Allen to restore but he past on doing it.

Mike

[69z28302]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jl8z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">was this car at Super Chevy in Richmond back in the 90s. I took pictures of it. nice car if the same one </div></div>

I do know it was at the WWCC or USCC in Detroit before he sold it.

Mike

[Astock]

The car you are looking for, is the same one Dave owned.

[69z28302]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Astock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The car you are looking for, is the same one Dave owned. </div></div>

Dave? ....AStock. Do you happen to know where it is now?

Mike

[69z28302]

Allen brought in some pictures of the car today. They were dated 6/ 2000 . They were taken right before he sold the car.

Also , he had change the Endura front bumper to a chrome one before he sold it. Just his preference

[69z28302]

Here's the car . It ended up on Ebay. Time hasn't been kind to it though and many things have been changed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Cama...=item3a7ba6ab43 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Camaro-RS-Z-28-X33-Matching-DZ-302-Real-GM-Crossram-4x2-JL-8-Disc-Brakes-/251182623555?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&amp;hash=item3a7ba6ab43 )

Mike

[olredalert]

----I guess Iam just naturally curious, but how would a 1969 Z/28 have to be ordered for it to come with an M-20 trans???.......Bill S

[mockingbird812]

Those are some of the nicest blurry pictures that I've seen in some time!

[Lynn]

Why would you put a mylar vin sticker in the door on a car that didn't come with one?

[x77-69z28]

Restoration from the 90's that's why!

[x77-69z28]

Restoration from the 90's that's why! This car is about 500 cars ahead of mine. Anyone know if this car has its orig block? If so is it a 618 block or an 010 block?

[cdn454LS6]

Is that a original Cowl tag, Some guys on Camaro.net say it isnt ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----I guess Iam just naturally curious, but how would a 1969 Z/28 have to be ordered for it to come with an M-20 trans???.......Bill S </div></div> Bill my car was ordered with a posi 4;10 and M20. Nothing really special on the shipper papers. Personally I think it was customer preferance on the M20, 21, or22 Frank

[olredalert]

----Thanks, Frank! 4:10 and an M20 must have been great out of the hole.....Bill S

I love it.

[PeteLeathersac]

VIN 124379N638398
Cool car w/ a few problems but decent probability it's a real Z.
Bummer if the tag's a repop, consolation prize the xRam and JL8?

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[Lynn]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cdn454LS6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is that a original Cowl tag, Some guys on Camaro.net say it isnt ? </div></div>

Do you have a link to the discussion? I did a search over there with the vin and nothing popped up.

[cdn454LS6]

Its Under, &quot; What's it Worth &quot; dated Nov 11/2012 Scroll down and enter date.

[Lynn]

OK. I remember the car now. Yes, that is a fake tag.

One of the guys at team camaro took a better pic of it than the one on the ebay auction. You know, any time you see a &quot;numbers&quot; car with very clear pics of everything BUT the &quot;numbers&quot; it raises a serious red flag. Really, if you can take a clear pic of the straigh, shiny quarter panel, why not a clear pic of the tag?

[cdn454LS6]

To me it looks to perfect and both rivits, I looked up Trim Tags .com and looked at there 69 camaro norwood tags and they look identical.
I phoned the dealer because I was interested in the car, Say's sold for 79.500 gone to Florida

[Lynn]

Hope the FL buyer knows it has a fake tag.

[92646]

The car is for sale again on E-bay.

[67 Nova Boy]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=390503111500

Dave
67 Nova Boy