What were IF code wheels used for?

[travlnz28]

What were the 14 X 7 steel wheels with the IF code originally used on? I know some guys use them in place of the XT. I thought they were Pontiac but wanted to confirm before I list them here for sale.

[enio45]

SOme info here

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=169798

[Canuck]

Used on 70-72 Olds cutlass and 442 with FE2 or F41 suspension option.

Assembly manual says XT or IF. My 71 442 convert with dog dish had IF, my 70 W30 coupe had XT,71 W30 hardtop had XT.

Paul

[Jonesy]

Like that post says. My 69 Van Nuys built Camaro had the IF code on the build sheet.

[Andy S]

They are also 69 Firebird V-8 standard wheels.

[travlnz28]

I got three of them from a guy that said he removed them from his 69 firebird and they are dated late 68. Glad to see that has been confirmed.

[92646]

Gregg the IF wheels have a little deeper offset than the XTs also. I never noticed till I had both wheels side by side.

[Thomas]

The later IF coded wheels could be different from the earlier, 1969, dated ones, as later XT coded wheels are different from the 1969 version.

I have had a set of 1969 dated IFs and XTs side by side and there was no obvious difference.

I have also had a '69 dated XT beside a later (I cannot remember the exact date) XT and there was a difference in the design of the center, where it is welded to the outside of the rim.

I wish I had taken pics, but it was when I back in the mid '90s when most people did not care.

[travlnz28]

I'll get them out today and compare them to some 69 dated XT wheels I have.

[92646]

Thomas, I am glad you said that because I have been saying there is an offset difference forever but I never thought about changes done over time and the date codes. You would have thought they would have used a different wheel codes if they changed the offsets. The first 2 pictures are of the IF wheel I had at the time and second 2 pictures are of the XT wheel I had at the time.

[nova7579]

Good luck trying to sell a set of IF's to a Camaro guy.
Brian

[travlnz28]

The link that Eddie posted from Team Camaro has some good information on the differences in the wheels. I have a very early IF that is 1968 dated but has no date code next to the valve stem hole. It has large ND in the front center. I have 2 November 1968 wheels that have the date code next to the valve stem hole and seem to be by a different manufacturer since there is no ND in the center. Cosmetically they are identical. I have another IF that has a late 1969 date that was produced by a third manufacturer. It is different cosmetically, mostly noticeable from the back and the backspace is about 1/16 inch different See picture comparison.

I compared two May, 1969 XT wheels to the IF wheels. The XT's are identical to the November, 1968 IF wheels and are the same manufacturer with the same fonts used for the markings at the valve stem hole.

If anybody wants any additional info about these I'd be glad to do what I can.

[travlnz28]

Two more illustrate the difference that would show from the front.

Well I tried to load them with no luck. Let me know if have an interest and I'll be glad to email you additional pics.

[John Brown]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=31212&filename= P1060412.JPG

This picture looks more like a CL or UA wheel than any XT or IF I have seen. Notice how the center of the rim is nearly square shaped around the outer edges?

Have never seen that on an XT or IF, and I've had many of both.

[travlnz28]

Here are the front markings of the "square" IF. Anybody know the manufacturer?

[nova7579]

I think that the M stamds for Motor Wheel???
Brian