View Full Version : 69 DZ 302 Engine ID.........
198plus
06-01-2012, 11:08 PM
I have, what I think is the real deal (1969 DZ 302 Engine). I would just like some input on this to make sure it is a DZ 302.
Here's some numbers I have found.....Thanks for any help.
Front pad....... V0107DZ 1576024
Oil Filter....... 371 388 88N
Back of block........3956618
Heads........3927186
Couple pics..........
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k190/wetscapes1/100_0637.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k190/wetscapes1/DSCN2226.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k190/wetscapes1/100_0646.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k190/wetscapes1/DSCN2223.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k190/wetscapes1/DSCN2226.jpg
Salvatore
06-02-2012, 12:53 AM
DZ is nothing but a suffix code. At least the block started life as a 302 it looks like. All those 4 bolt blocks could be in many applications. Have to see if the crank says 1178 on it. Its casted on the first throw up by the balancer. That is a Z/28 crankshaft. Rest of the stuff looks pretty good from here. DZ code looks like January 7th of 69.
PeteLeathersac
06-02-2012, 03:58 PM
If stampings are original and pad location correct for Vin, isn't there some digits missing between the 1 and 5?
9N if Norwood car?
VIN 124379N576024 ?
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198plus
06-02-2012, 06:44 PM
I checked the numbers on the crank and it is a 1178 and main caps are 2482.
Salvatore
06-03-2012, 12:45 AM
Main caps would be the same for a 350....I think? The crank being an 1178 is a 3" stroke so you are good. Like I said DZ is a suffix code for a Z/28. Block is nothing special compared to other 4 bolt blocks.
jannes_z-28
06-04-2012, 08:43 AM
You need to provide a good sharp image of the pad with the stampings. Use the Macro setting on your camera (Flower symbol).
Then we can see if it is a "real" DZ-block.
Jan
198plus
06-04-2012, 03:06 PM
[quote=jannes_z-28]You need to provide a good sharp image of the pad with the stampings. Use the Macro setting on your camera (Flower symbol).
Then we can see if it is a "real" DZ-block.
Jan [/quote
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x77-69z28
06-04-2012, 05:39 PM
i believe that 1 is an L or van nuys car. stamp looks good to me, but i am no expert.
x77-69z28
06-05-2012, 01:11 AM
just checked with a friend who has an 01B norwood z-28. his vin is 9n575XXX and his vin is by the oil filter. i dont think that after they changed the location, they would go back to the pad.
Fast67VelleN2O
06-05-2012, 01:51 AM
A different plant might have done things differently.
Kurt S
06-05-2012, 04:52 AM
The stamping is original.
PeteLeathersac
06-05-2012, 12:11 PM
Cool and great you have comparables!
Specifically are we looking at gang stamping 19N576024 - a flatfooted 1 for Chevrolet faintly showing to the far left but not originally mentioned above? - the 9 missing at this level of scrutiny also perhaps a shorter length gang member? - the tail end of the N showing before the 5 that looks like a 1?
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Steve Shauger
06-05-2012, 02:43 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x77-69z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">just checked with a friend who has an 01B norwood z-28. his vin is 9n575XXX and his vin is by the oil filter. i dont think that after they changed the location, they would go back to the pad. </div></div>
The Van Nuys plant changed the Vin location a few times during the year and that location was typical for that plant during that time period.
x77-69z28
06-05-2012, 04:19 PM
i think we have determined that this is a norwood stamping. a january built van nuys car would have a much lower vin.
buddy
camaromb
06-05-2012, 05:24 PM
My 01B LA built Z28 has a Jan. 3rd assembled motor, vin by the oil filter, L517XXX vin. Both Camaro plants used the oil filter and front pad location for vin stamps during the Dec. '68 - Feb./Mar. '69 period. Either vin location can be original.
This 302 motor is a Norwood vin'd motor based on the vin #.
Mark
Jeff H
06-06-2012, 02:38 AM
If you lighten the picture you can see it looks like L526024 which makes sense that the VIN stamping from VN would be up on the deck. The first "2" looks like a larger font which VN has been known to do.
camaromb
06-06-2012, 02:49 AM
The vin stamp is so messed up it must be an LA stamp! There are so many strange vin stamps from the LA plant, large 6's, 2's, etc. There are original Norwood vin stamps on the front pad into mid Jan. '69 so it is not only an LA plant occurrence.
198plus
06-08-2012, 02:15 PM
Thanks for every one's help, so I'm assuming that it is a Dz 302.
PeteLeathersac
06-08-2012, 03:30 PM
Is it confirmed if it's an L or N yet?
Original DZ orphan from VIN 124379L576024 <span style="text-decoration: underline">or</span> VIN 124379N576024 ?
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Kurt S
06-09-2012, 05:22 AM
9N576024
x77-69z28
06-09-2012, 04:24 PM
kurt, do we have other examples of cars this late with the vin stamped on the pad? as i said before, my friends car is vin 19N575XXX and it is NOT stamped on the pad.
buddy
Kurt S
06-10-2012, 02:09 AM
A few cars.
427freak
06-10-2012, 04:04 AM
My Norwood car is later than this one and the vin is on the pad also.
x77-69z28
06-10-2012, 05:22 PM
thanks
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