67 SS 427 Impala?

[beater68427]

Found this car im not a fan of Impalas but looks like it was a cool car in its day. The car has 427 emblems on fenders enigine long gone, but has trans and 12 bolt posi. anything special to look for on these and is it worth saving?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/32617172.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/32617028.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/32617337.jpg

[Mr70]

That poor car looks really nice,and out of place.Almost as if it was stolen,stripped & dumped there.

[Postsedan]

Hell Yes..... it's worth saving! You've got to find her a good home. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[olredalert]

----Car appears to be an SS with the 427 engine, not an &quot;SS427&quot;. Makes you wonder why the hood is gone. I could understand some jerk stealing an SS427 hood, but a flat hood??? It also looks like the front seats have correct pattern replacement seat covers but in totally the wrong color. Strange!.....Bill S

[beater68427]

I do not know these cars at all, I looked on line and see 67 427 cars with different emblems and hood??? the car still has the hood and it is flat, the trans is there and the rear is there this is the second owner of the car and the original engine was gone when he got it, but it did have a 67 427 in it but the current owner removed it.

[beater68427]

this is what it looked like under the hood before removal

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/10.jpg

another inside

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/22.jpg

[beater68427]

not the best pic but in the inside of the rh fender it has 427 in yellow? not sure if this was ever really done at the factory. The man is asking 3k for it and im just not sure the money is there neat car but I only want it if they made the impala ss with a 427 engine any ideas where to look for a build sheet?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/4.jpg

[PeteLeathersac]

I agree the badging indicates it was an Impala SS w/ 427 L36/M40 and not an SS427 car.
Black firewall indicates not but it's always worth confirming the assembly plant as Canadian built cars have Vin specific as shipped RPO info available from GM Canada Vintage services.
Is the air cleaner still around?


<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

[beater68427]

The whole engine is still there he is just selling it without. The plant is J in vin (Janesville WI)

[olredalert]

----I could easily be wrong but Im betting that the motor was removed because of the likelyhood of finding a deep-pockets guy with a 67 Corvette. Even though its a two-bolt main engine we all know how easy it is to straighten that little problem out, and there are also plenty of 390 and 400 hp 67 Vettes out there that need 351s too. Unfortunatly, that particular motor (if your guy knows values) probably more than doubles the value of the car. Its my guess he doesnt think the car will bring the $ all together. A mistake IMHO!!!

----I sold a reverse rotation (marine) 351 short block about 5 years ago for about $4000, and nothing has changed much......Bill S

[beater68427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----I could easily be wrong but Im betting that the motor was removed because of the likelyhood of finding a deep-pockets guy with a 67 Corvette. Even though its a two-bolt main engine we all know how easy it is to straighten that little problem out, and there are also plenty of 390 and 400 hp 67 Vettes out there that need 351s too. Unfortunatly, that particular motor (if your guy knows values) probably more than doubles the value of the car. Its my guess he doesnt think the car will bring the $ all together. A mistake IMHO!!!

----I sold a reverse rotation (marine) 351 short block about 5 years ago for about $4000, and nothing has changed much......Bill S </div></div>

I agree on the engine he says its not the original engine but date and casting numbers are good, the block has been surfaced so no numbers, he says the air cleaner and all the acc are original to the car though. I would have alot more interest if the engine went with the car.

[olredalert]

----Lack of #s on the pad doesnt mean a whole lot to some. Actually less work!!! Oh well!.......Bill S

[beater68427]

I originally thought all 67 427 cars had the bulge hood and other emblems, but I guess not I also read this on another site,

When first introduced, SS 427 features were optional for two body styles in the separate 1967 Impala SS series. Regular Super Sport equipment included vinyl-clad Strato bucket seats, black grille finish, wheelhouse moldings, black lower body and deck lid accents, badges and specific wheel covers. A second option, coded RPO L36, turned the SS into an SS 427. This $316 package included the SS 427 trim and a 385-hp 427 Turbo-Jet V-8.

[TAR6569]

Yep, this looks to be a real 427 car. It was a Super Sport ordered with the 427 engine. It did NOT have the rpo Z24 SS427 package that gave you the special hood and trunklid molding.

I run the 67-69 Impala SS427 registry and would love to get this car added. I keep track of cars like this too. Could you send me or post pictures of the vin tag and trim tag on the firewall? Transmission tag should have a CB code on it. Where was the car built? I can give you good locations to look depending on the plant it's from. I have seen similar writing on the inside fender before.

Warren

[beater68427]

Warren,

The car is a Janesville WI car,

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/67tag.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/1972cutlass/67vin.jpg

[TAR6569]

Hmmm I did have that car in my list. It was on ebay in January. Seller is starting to sell stuff of the engine.

tag shows Marina Blue paint, bright blue bucket seat interior. Body was built 2nd week of November and options on tag are tinted windshield, TH400, rear seat speaker and deluxe belts.

If the original trans and engine are in it, that may not be a bad deal. The trim tag shows the car did not have a vinyl top when new.

Warren

[beater68427]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmmm I did have that car in my list. It was on ebay in January. Seller is starting to sell stuff of the engine.

tag shows Marina Blue paint, bright blue bucket seat interior. Body was built 2nd week of November and options on tag are tinted windshield, TH400, rear seat speaker and deluxe belts.

If the original trans and engine are in it, that may not be a bad deal. The trim tag shows the car did not have a vinyl top when new.

Warren </div></div>

Warren I spent some time going over the car tonight and with some bad news engine is gone now.... I guess I slept too long on this but the manifolds are hanging on the exhaust still in the car date of I 12 6 so im going to say they are OE, trans and PS pump are still in car but way worse shape than pics make it to be. I might have to pass this one sad im sure its real but needs everything... Im going to need to think on it the next couple days before I make a offer.

[TAR6569]

Yeah. Since the block was decked, who knows. Did you have a chance to buy the car with the engine. It appears that everything else was original to the engine. The air cleaner, which is specific to those engines was correct.

How is the body? Quarters, floors and frame as well?

Warren

[galveston]

Warren,
I,talked to a fellow who looked at this car in Jan. when it was on e-bay, he said it was a 396 car that had no engine when this current owner aquired the car. He then put a 351 bolck in it and listed it on e-bay as a original???, and added the 427 emblems.
Now it seems he has removed the engine and sold it?
I'd be careful about adding this as a L36.

[Xplantdad]

How did I know that you'd know about this car Shaun? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[beater68427]

Shaun,
The car is a block from my house I have gone over it verry well and if someone put the 427 emblems on it they did it a verry verry long time ago not in the last year. I think the car is real he is not trying to clone it and would sell it verry cheap just to get it gone, but that said the car is also a real POS and I do not think worth fixing as he does as well. But as long as the current owner has had it those emblems were on also it was crashed a long time ago and the LF fender was changed with a small block fender from a black car and painted the reciept is in the glove box for this repair and clearly states re drill 427 holes in lf fender so it was wearing 427 badges back then I cant remember the date on reciept but it is there with a little paper work not much. Te rf fender is original and has the 427 markings upside down on the inside where you could never get in there with the car togeather. so its ??? But I think it is real but I also think im going to pass just a bit rough for me.

[galveston]

Jeff,
My info was second hand so creadibility may be in question here, however from all the info supplied I'd assume the original engine was long gone. At the point in time it was listed on e-bay the seller belived it to be the original. Bid up to $6300. and reserve not met. pretty good money for what you have described.
The markings on the inside of the fenders are a neat find and may be the difinitive answer if it was an L36.

Here is the inside of my fenders markings.

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/pp310/alldeuce/019.jpg

[beater68427]

I think the car is real but im going to pass on this one, you would have to want one real bad to restore this car I can see a easy 30k just in restoration costs and parts let alone the cost of the car. Then you have a NOM 67 Impala sad to see it in this state but just the same reason it is there.