Nazi car found

[hvychev]

http://autos.aol.com/article/nj-hitlers-mercedes-benz/?ncid=webmail7

[396L35]

Cool story and I like how the service man disguised it to bring it home...

[Fast67VelleN2O]

I wonder if its bulletproof. A lot of the cars that the Reich ordered in those years were armored to the teeth.

[x Baldwin Motion]

http://s2.hubimg.com/u/99721_f520.jpg

[PeteLeathersac]

With respect to the true atrocities and suffering of the Nazi era, their automobiles and anything transportation related is always interesting!
About 25 years ago I recall reading how some vehicles used by Nazi officials were identified by comparing pictures that showed the doors open and matching the unique woodgrain trim w/ that of existing cars.
The coolest Nazi related automobiles is the late 30's Auto Union racers, incredible drivers and machines some of which raced bearing Swastikas also great stories of their successes and ultimate fate.
Here's a try at a few pics below, note the American Flag flying with the Swastika in the poster image of Berd Rosemayer winning the 1937 New York race.


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http://images53.fotki.com/v545/photos/1/1413244/6874968/4RekordWagen1938RudyCaracciola-vi.jpg (http://public.fotki.com/peteleathersac/general-pics/mercedesw124rekordw.html)Hosted on Fotki (http://www.fotki.com)


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[dykstra]

Wow, crazy pics.

[olredalert]

----A friend of mine, Chuck Kelly, from the Fox Lake area used to own Eva Brauns personal Mercedes 540. It could run on gas, diesel, or just about anything else that would ignite. It was all white and really had beautiful lines. He bought it from a guy named Fran Roxas who couldnt quite figure out exactly what he had. Chuck used to call it his retirement plan!........Bill S

[markinnaples]

What happened to those Auto Union racecars and drivers?

Is there a website that documents that?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Most of the Auto Unions are in museums all over the world. After the war, Russia ended up with quite a few. Don't know what happened to those.
-Matt

[beater68427]

There was a Hitler car found here in Utah been quite a few years ago same basic story they needed a transmission part and called the SN in, Be nice if Chevy would have kept such good records but then we would only have a 3rd of the 69 Z28's to look at..

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beater68427</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Be nice if Chevy would have kept such good records but then we would only have a 3rd of the 69 Z28's to look at.. </div></div>

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[Fast67VelleN2O]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4awmisU7LM

Here is one. These engines, from what I have read, have needle bearings for the crank and mains.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myxMudtFX6g

Here are a few that sound real good. Not bad for late 1930's. I don't think anything else at the time sounded like one.

[427TJ]

I just spent 18 days in Germany and the Czech Republic on vacation with my family. In Germany (Berlin, Dresden and Rothenburg) I was surprised to see so much Nazi history programs on the tele at night. Every night at either 8:00 or 9:00 one of the German channels, a history channel, showed Nazi and 1920s-45 German history programs. Yeah, they were in German but I watched anyway because they were well done and I could 'get' enough of the dialogue to know what they were discussing.

Also visited several WWII and Nazi sites, including the Zeppelin Field at Nuremburg where Hitler held several rallies in front of a few hundred thousand adoring Germans. It was fascinating to walk on the remains the Albert Speer designed grandstand and speaker's stand but I was also somewhat nauseated by being there. As we drove away I noticed that a nearby street is named for slain Israeli leader Yitzhak Rabin. I chuckled at the ironies of history and felt better.

Last tidbit. I bought a paperback book (published by BBC books in 1997) on the history of the Nazis and how they and Hitler came to power. Only .76% (that's less than 1%) of the German population was Jewish but Hitler and the Nazis demonized them successfully, mainly because there were so few that no one really knew any real Jews. Had there been more Jews in Germany then more people might have had Jewish neighbors, found them not to be the devils Hitler and his men claimed, and might not have believed the Jews to be &quot;evil.&quot; The book is, &quot;The Nazis, a Warning from History.&quot; I recommend it highly.

Last-last tidbit. I bought the book in Berlin at the museum for the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe and again was a little nauseated buying a book about the Nazis from a Jewish Holocaust museum gift shop. I guess Germany really has come a long way from those terrible days.

Okay, ACTUAL last tidbit. In Berlin we rented a house out west of the city in Staaken. One of my favorite movies is the 1969 film, &quot;Battle of Britain.&quot; My dad took me to see it in 1969 and I showed it to my son when he was about four and he loves it now too. Wonderful soundtrack and they used actual Spitfires, Hurricanes and very close postwar copies (built in Spain using Rolls Royce Merlin V-12s!) of the Messerschmitt 109 and Heinkel 111. Anyway, in one scene the Germans accidentally bomb London one night (supposed to bomb airfields at that point of the BoB) and the lead crew are summoned to Berlin to explain to Hitler why they bombed London and thus changed the course of the conflict. They land at the Luftwaffe airfield oustide of Berlin at Staaken and in the movie there is a sign on a hangar that says &quot;Staaken.&quot; I always remembered that name from seeing it in the movie. So we get to the house and I realize it's in Staaken and remember the name from the movie. ANYWAY, I decide to get on Google Earth one night and do some looking at where we are. I also Google search Staaken airfield and find that--get this--it was located about 300 yards south of our rental house! Sure enough, there it is on Google Earth, unused since the '50s but still visible as an airfield! How's that for a funny coincidence. I told my son and we drove down the road the next morning and looked over the rail tracks at the old field. Solar panels there now but the old runways and taxiways can still be seen in some places. It was fun to figure that out after all these years.

[PeteLeathersac]

Cool info Bill, nice to see your respect for history and those who suffered is intact also WOW on the personal coincidences!
I've read a lot on the Nazi era happenings, the whole truth is hard to believe but also facinating what man is capable of as both aggressor and the persecuted.
The best books I've read are by the Jewish people who spent time in the camps and lived, especially those who were in Auswitch-Birkenau, Buchenwald and Treblinka.
One book was by Robery Clary who played Louie LaBeau on the Hogan's Heroes TV show, his family being French-Jews were shipped off to the camps and only he survived!
I had a few emails w/ him when I read the book a few years ago, a very nice man w/ an amazing story also now the last surviving Hogan's Heroes cast member.

Sincere thanks and respect for those persecuted and lost in all conflicts around the world, past and present!!!
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[Enoch]

You Should read &quot;The Hiding Place&quot; by Corrie ten Boom.