Torque Thrust Wheel Question

[SuperNovaSS]

Any Torque Thrust experts out there? These 15x7 wheels just came to me and I would like to know if they are first generation Torque Thrust or Torque Thrust D wheels. I believe they are first generation but want to be sure so I don't misrepresent them.


Thanks!


Jason

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust001.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust002.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust003.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust004.jpg

[SuperNovaSS]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust005.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust006.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust007.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust008.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust009.jpg

[TimG]

They certainly look like "D's" to me. The spoke has a curve to it from the look in the pictures. If you have a Corvette with disc brakes, slap one on with no lug nuts to see if it fits.

[SuperNovaSS]

These are Ford pattern <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif. Do all the Torque thrusts D's have &quot;Torque Thrust &quot;D&quot; cast into the back side? These do not have the &quot;D&quot;.

Thanks,

Jason

[SuperNovaSS]

Here are a few more pictures of the spokes. I think the pictures make them look curved when they are not.


Thanks,

Jason

[SuperNovaSS]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust010.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust011.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust012.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust013.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/super-novass/TorqueThrust014.jpg

[ORIGLS6]

Look more like the Original TTs to me. They're repopping these and are now called TTOs.

Here's a shot of my Nova. These are late 60s/early 70s vintage TTs.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m57/dmcumby/DSCF1883.jpg

[firstgenaddict]

The TTO's are tapered seat, they do not use the shank type lug nut like the ones pictured.

These appear to be Vintage Torque Thrusts I believe the design is a T70. The oxidation seems to mask the lines of the cast spokes but they look like they are vintage T70's.

[SuperNovaSS]

Don't T70s use the push in cap? I'm pretty certain these are 60s first design torque thrsuts.

Thanks,


Jason

[firstgenaddict]

No I'm pretty sure the T70s are the Original model and use the screw on cap with tabs.

[SuperNovaSS]

Interesting. Thanks for the info. I tossed these wheels up on Ebay at no reserve if anyone is interested.

15x7 Torque Thrust Wheels (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251166851013)

Thanks again,


Jason

[69 Post Sedan]

Anyone know how old these Torque Thrust wheels might be and what they might be worth?

Thanks in advance, Kurt

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/03/full-4752-3160-torque_thrust_1.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/03/full-4752-3161-torque_thrust_2.jpg

[BillD]

I would guess mid 60's. As to price are they 15x6 or 15x7? Do you have a set of 4 or 2?

[69 Post Sedan]

Bill, they're a pair of 15X7 with a 3-3/4&quot; back spacing.

Kurt

[ORIGLS6]

TTDs are much later than mid/late 60s. I'd guess those wheels are mid 80s at the earliest.

[BillD]

Kurt:

Please keep in mind that I am only offering my opinion and am not an expert on these wheels. That being said, I think they are the valuable style wheels from the 60's as they have the three rib spokes (looking at the wheel from the back), they also seem to require the shanked lug nuts and washer (not the acorn lug from later wheels) and they have a lot of &quot;meat&quot; around the center section, the later wheels are weaker in that area. I would say they should be worth $500 for the pair maybe as much as $800 on ebay if you have a couple of guys that want them. Not that you are asking but 15x6 should be worth more. My price estimate is only good if I have ID'd the wheels correctly, if ORIGLS6 is correct that they are mid 80's wheels my estimate is worthless. Just trying to help. If I am wrong, it won't be the first time or last. Maybe someone else can help?

[69 Post Sedan]

Thanks for the replies.

Kurt

[ORIGLS6]

Bill,
Not trying to dispute your word by any means, .... and like you mentioned, I'm CERTAINLY no expert on these wheels (or anything else for that matter <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif ). Andt it appears you may be right.

Terry Vaughan knows more about ARE TT wheels than anyone I'm aware of. Here's what he had to say in a discussion on the H.A.M.B. a while back. This is what I based my statement from:

&quot;I have been buying - selling - working on 60's 70's aftermarket wheels for well over 30 years and own a lot of Original wheel company literature that I use in my business. I do not talk about wheels that I have not had in my hands;
The first American Racing ALUMINUM Torque Thrust wheels came out in 1965. There where 5 different sizes 14x 6 &amp; 7 inch and 15 x 6 - 7 &amp; 8.5 all five came in 5 lug patterns only 5 on 4.5&quot; - 4.75&quot; - 5&quot; &amp; 5.5&quot;. In the 60's there wasnt anything added to the name. Just Torque Thrust. 1965 catalog / price list dated 1 Feb 1965 .
The wheels where one piece cast aluminum and had American Racing Torque Thrust - size &amp; offset cast into back of the wheel. The exception to that is
A) The first 14&quot; (6 &amp; 7&quot;) wheels came with round spokes. This was changed to straight spokes in 1966.
B) The 15x6 was always called Sportwheel &quot;NOT&quot; Torque Thrust
The 1966 A (dated 1 Jan 66) catalog has the American Racing Aluminum Torque Thrust &quot;D&quot; in 15 x 6&quot; &amp; 7&quot; and thats the only 2 sizes made.
The American Racing one piece cast Aluminum Torque Thrust &quot;D&quot; ( VN105D &amp; VN605D ) that came out in 1988 and is made today &quot; IS NOT &quot; the same wheel as the 60's wheel. ** You can not get different back space on the one piece cast wheels because it would require a 2nd mold and they are not cheap.
The Torque Thrust II has a cast center section welded into a Billet outer and that's why you can get different back spaces. The spokes on the TT II are different than the new TT &quot;D&quot;
The TTO which stands for &quot; Torque Thrust Original &quot; VN109 TTO and VN309 TTO &quot; IS NOT &quot; an exact match to the 60's wheel. The center cap has a larger base diameter than the 60's wheel. There is no bevel between the outer barrel and the spokes. Old wheels used shank lug nuts. new wheels use conicle seat lugs. The 15x8.5 TTO has the same outer lip as the New TT &quot;D&quot; and its not even close to the 60's 8.5 lip.
Advertiser's did a good job of confusing people that really dont know one wheel from the other by using the words Original - Vintage - Nostalgic.
I have a lot of pictures names and sizes of 60's - 70's wheels on my web page www.torquethrustcentral.com (http://www.torquethrustcentral.com) I hope this helps with some of the confusion. Terry&quot;


Good Luck Kurt. Hope they're worth some Big $$$ <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Starship]

Those wheels are from the '60s. Thay are not even remotely like the the '80s to current &quot;D&quot;

[69 Post Sedan]

I picked the two wheels up the other day and here are some more pictures of them. Bill is correct that they take the shanked lugs.

Kurt

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/03/full-4752-3519-american_torque_thurst_d_1.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/03/full-4752-3520-american_torque_thurst_d_2.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/03/full-4752-3521-american_torque_thurst_d_4.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/03/full-4752-3522-american_torque_thurst_d_5.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/03/full-4752-3523-american_torque_thurst_d_3.jpg