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69L78Post
01-20-2013, 07:28 PM
A nice 69 Judge, picture taken in Moncton NB 1970. The car doesn't look like it's been beat on too much yet!http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-5741-2360-45936_10200293533758410_1420315064_n.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-5741-2361-321092_10200293535798461_20037051_n.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-5741-2362-18984_10200293537038492_1839608823_n.jpg

njsteve
01-20-2013, 08:13 PM
Someone put trim rings on it back then. Didnt like the trimless wheels I guess.

69L78Post
01-20-2013, 08:18 PM
No headrests either.

68 Vert
01-20-2013, 11:04 PM
No Ram Air decals on the hood.

njsteve
01-20-2013, 11:58 PM
Man, even the factory couldn't get things right back then...I bet there's even a Ford &quot;CAUTION FAN&quot; sticker on the radiator shroud, too. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

300deluxeL79
01-24-2013, 01:21 AM
speakin of factory....
why the '69 impala in front of it? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo33/69belair/other%20chevrolets%20and%20gm/OnTheLine7.jpg

StriperSS
01-24-2013, 02:49 AM
Is that the plant in Belgium, that assembled cars for Europe?

Keith Tedford
01-24-2013, 10:02 AM
My understanding is that in Canada, headrests didn't become mandatory until January 1, 1969.

Keith Seymore
01-24-2013, 10:53 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StriperSS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is that the plant in Belgium, that assembled cars for Europe? </div></div>

No - that's Lordstown.

Most &quot;Pontiac&quot; plants assembled multiple GM Brands (the exception being the &quot;home&quot; plant in Pontiac Michigan).

It is still done that way today (that is, multiple GM brands and models going down the same line).

K

Keith Seymore
01-24-2013, 02:38 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

No - that's Lordstown.

Most &quot;Pontiac&quot; plants assembled multiple GM Brands (the exception being the &quot;home&quot; plant in Pontiac Michigan).

It is still done that way today (that is, multiple GM brands and models going down the same line).

K
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Correction: that's the Van Nuys plant, according to Jim Mattison.

http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/fe...e/photo_09.html (http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/features/hppp_0910_an_historic_look_through_pontiacs_assemb ly_line/photo_09.html)

My apologies (I was going from memory, which is a dangerous thing to do).

K

firstgenaddict
01-26-2013, 11:40 PM
Keith according to JohnZ Pictured on the left in the white shirt the photo is of Lordstown, there is a discussion over this photo right now on the CRG.

grantprix
01-30-2013, 01:34 AM
Looks like it had headrests originally, pretty sure I see the releases on top of the seat. Has a wood wheel too. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

69L78Post
01-30-2013, 02:14 AM
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-5741-2461-526723_4932874077091_1760807129_n.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-5741-2462-18463_1327171656784_1989261_n.jpg

L79_300
03-16-2013, 12:54 AM
Here is a NOS Super Duty intake manifold with 3433S and 3435S Carter AFB's.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu185/chadmohr64/1962%20Pontiac%20Super%20Duty%20Intake/bcf09bf1-7d09-4ca1-9404-e16cdd015795_zpsdf012ccd.jpg

300deluxeL79
03-19-2013, 01:03 AM
'69 trans am on the truck...
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo33/69belair/other%20chevrolets%20and%20gm/0020_zps2cf42089.jpg

Xplantdad
03-19-2013, 01:31 AM
That's a great pic!

Tracker1
03-19-2013, 01:06 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69L78Post</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-5741-2461-526723_4932874077091_1760807129_n.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/01/full-5741-2462-18463_1327171656784_1989261_n.jpg
</div></div>

Mark of Excelence - hahahahahahhaha...no spell check in those days.

Keith Seymore
03-19-2013, 01:37 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keith according to JohnZ Pictured on the left in the white shirt the photo is of Lordstown, there is a discussion over this photo right now on the CRG.
</div></div>

Thank you; I'll make a note of it (correcting my earlier correction).

K

Keith Seymore
03-20-2013, 11:45 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keith according to JohnZ Pictured on the left in the white shirt the photo is of Lordstown, there is a discussion over this photo right now on the CRG.
</div></div>

FirstGen - do you have a link to the discussion?

I have a &quot;favorite&quot; saved for CRG but it takes me directly to the production process; I don't see a forum anywhere.

By the way, my career parallels JohnZ's, except I started about 10 years later and worked my way up in the Truck organization (I'm still working for Truck Engineering).

K

70 copo
03-21-2013, 10:07 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Keith Seymore</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: firstgenaddict</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keith according to JohnZ Pictured on the left in the white shirt the photo is of Lordstown, there is a discussion over this photo right now on the CRG.
</div></div>

FirstGen - do you have a link to the discussion?

I have a &quot;favorite&quot; saved for CRG but it takes me directly to the production process; I don't see a forum anywhere.

By the way, my career parallels JohnZ's, except I started about 10 years later and worked my way up in the Truck organization (I'm still working for Truck Engineering).

K
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Keith, do you remember Herb Leitz? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif

Keith Seymore
03-21-2013, 12:31 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 70 copo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Keith, do you remember Herb Leitz? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif </div></div>

Yes, I do.

In fact, he helped me as I transitioned out of the assembly plant and into engineering.

K

Peter426
03-23-2013, 05:24 PM
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7805/u1411b.jpg

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/6281/u1415b.jpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4529/u1416b.jpg

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/174/u1436b.jpg

Pete

300deluxeL79
03-23-2013, 10:25 PM
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo33/69belair/other%20chevrolets%20and%20gm/GeeTOTigerSmokeShow.jpg

9566 BA
03-24-2013, 01:08 AM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/9566BA/GTO%20pictures/GTOpicture_zpsfe2f6a2d.jpg

Peter426
03-24-2013, 01:28 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 9566 BA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/9566BA/GTO%20pictures/GTOpicture_zpsfe2f6a2d.jpg </div></div>

Great shot. I really miss the 'old' America.

Pete

9566 BA
03-24-2013, 01:32 AM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/9566BA/GTO%20pictures/GTOpicture1_zps4b9318a2.jpg

9566 BA
03-24-2013, 01:42 AM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/9566BA/GTO%20pictures/GTOpicture2_zps2f9e424c.jpg

9566 BA
03-24-2013, 01:49 AM
Yes the good old days

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/9566BA/GTO%20pictures/GTOpicture3_zpsbe3a7e40.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 10:37 PM
I suppose I could post a few of my own:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/63Covair.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/64LeMans.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/GTO/68GTOresize.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/GTO/69GMC.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 10:41 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/63Cat.jpg

'63 Catalina, 421 SD (converted to an HO car), 4 speed, aluminum front clip, Royal Bobcat appearance package.

That's the only still photo I have of that car. We found some early home movies and race footage and I had a hero card made from the information we could glean:

http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=183&amp;pictureid=7621

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 10:43 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/63Cat.jpg

'63 Catalina, 421 SD (converted to an HO car), 4 speed, aluminum front clip, Royal Bobcat appearance package.

That's the only still photo I have of that car. We found some early home movies and race footage and I had a hero card made from the information we could glean:

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/Seymore63CatSD421lg_zpsdd47684f.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 10:47 PM
Our '64 GTO on display at the Michigan State Fair (late summer/early fall, 1964)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/GTO/img009.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 10:58 PM
From the files:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Royal/img095.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/img087-1.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/img087-2.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/RoyalWagon2.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/img015.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/img016.jpg

'63 Nationals at Indy: http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/Thompson2007-1.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 11:05 PM
More from the files:

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/Deloreangeorgepontiacplumcc1.jpg

A &quot;high performance option&quot; for the Lemans:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Royal/img142.jpg

More of the '63 Nationals at Indy. Dad is driving Pete Seaton's car in the far lane.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Royal/100_7585.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Royal/100_7583.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 11:13 PM
Promotional photos at the GM Technical Center (with my car interspersed in):

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Grand%20Prix/GrandPrixTechCenter1.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Grand%20Prix/Pontiac-Grand_Prix_1963_800x600_wal.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Grand%20Prix/100_0668.jpg

........................

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Grand%20Prix/GrandPrixTechCenter2.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Grand%20Prix/100_0671.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 11:18 PM
These are early production '65's (likely first week of August 1964) and have been purported to be factory lightweights, built using thin steel sheetmetal:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/DickJesse.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/PackerPamperedPapoose.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Royal/KnafelGTO.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-24-2013, 11:25 PM
Sorry about the double post back there; my computer is being a bit balky.

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/bth_75723-500-0.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/bth_RoyalWagon1.jpg

Dad is the one that adapted this Olds fuel injection intake onto a Pontiac engine for Dick Jesse's '65 altered wheelbase car. They were probably made in the Chevrolet Die Room at Chevy Flint Manufacturing.

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Royal/001-1.jpg

9566 BA
03-24-2013, 11:39 PM
Great pictures Keith!

Tenney
03-25-2013, 02:12 AM
Too cool, Keith! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Keith Seymore
03-25-2013, 02:25 PM
Thanks, guys. I have way more pictures that I do time to post them.

Here's a few more:

These are the Pontiac, Michigan assembly plant. All three of my vintage Pontiacs were built here:

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Assembly%20plant/Pontiac_Motor_Car_Co_Pontiac_MI_Postcard.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Assembly%20plant/Pontiac_Motor_Car_Co_Pontiac_MI.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Assembly%20plant/Fisher_Body_Postcard.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Assembly%20plant/FisherBodyPlantPontiacMI.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Assembly%20plant/Fisher_Body_Plant_c1970.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Assembly%20plant/1962PeteEstes.jpg

The shipping yard. This is why cars can get &quot;lost&quot; in the assembly plant:

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Assembly%20plant/Pontiac20Assy_Car20Lot.jpg


Pre-Pontiac:

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Assembly%20plant/OaklandMotorCarCo.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-25-2013, 02:30 PM
From the Dick Jesse file;

Dick was our Pontiac salesman (we got five cars through Royal between '63 and '68) and a personal family friend.

As I mentioned earlier, dad did some work on this car:

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/JESSE.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/Jessesideview.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/img034.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/img033.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/img032.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/img031.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/img029.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/img028.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/DickJesseMr_Unswitchable65GTO6-vi.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dick%20Jesse/DickJesse-1.jpg

Here's the &quot;receipt&quot; for our '65:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/GTO/000_3513.jpg

Remember the State Fair photo? Here's the envelope it came in:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/GTO/Warren31AU07044.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/GTO/Warren31AU07046.jpg

Cool return address. For those who don't know, that is the address for Royal Pontiac in Royal Oak Michigan.


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/GTO/Warren31AU07047.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/GTO/Warren31AU07048.jpg

Tenney
03-26-2013, 04:49 AM
Good stuff, Keith! Appears Dick Jesse may've facilitated this transaction for Mr. Sherman, as well ...

Keith Seymore
03-26-2013, 11:46 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tenney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good stuff, Keith! Appears Dick Jesse may've facilitated this transaction for Mr. Sherman, as well ...

</div></div>

LOL! He definitely was not one to let grass grow under his feet...

I'll have to drive by 103 S Main in Royal Oak and see what's there these days.

K

PeteLeathersac
03-26-2013, 12:29 PM
W<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gifW stuff and thanks for sharing!

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif
~ Pete

Keith Seymore
03-27-2013, 02:42 PM
Arlen Vanke:


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Pont5.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Pont4.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Pont3.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Pont2.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Pont1.jpg


Tech Center fountain. I don't know how they take these photos - any time I park in that spot I get hosed!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Fountain.jpg

SD mule:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/knafel63.jpg

Check out the garage. That's where she sat for about 25 years:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/img078.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/000_3554.jpg

Keith Seymore
03-27-2013, 02:42 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/JesseFunnyMagcover.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad119/applekrate/63_tempest_pics_229.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad119/applekrate/16-1.jpg

North Saginaw Street in Pontiac, Michigan

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Pontiac%20Facilities/SaginawStlookingnorth.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Royal/royalwenzel.jpg

<span style="font-weight: bold">Ace Wilson Jr on the left; Mr Wangers on the right</span>
(You can see another Bobcat &quot;appearance package&quot; car in the background)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/hotrod001/Royal/img086.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/GTOs1968.jpg

Me &amp; Dad at Henry Ford Museum:

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/100_9943.jpg

olredalert
03-27-2013, 03:00 PM
----The paint is really getting soooo bad on that 65 GTO at the Ford museum. Wish they would do something about it, but, hey, its not a Ford I guess.......Bill S

Keith Seymore
03-28-2013, 02:11 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----The paint is really getting soooo bad on that 65 GTO at the Ford museum. Wish they would do something about it, but, hey, its not a Ford I guess.......Bill S </div></div>

The paint on that GTO has been bad for as long as I can remember. It's like they shot it over the old original laquer and the repaint has shrunk into the laquer checking.

Far be it from me, though, to be judgemental about paint jobs on GTOs. The original paint on my car is pretty bad and is quite spidered on the horizontal surfaces.

In defense GFV&amp;HFM they have changed the display around a little bit. They like to mix things up every 40 or 50 years to keep things fresh:

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Henry%20Ford%20Museum/HFMGTO1.jpg

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Henry%20Ford%20Museum/HFMGTO2.jpg

olredalert
03-28-2013, 02:59 PM
----Keith,,,I dont remember that GTO sitting anywhere near that high in the front. Am I just crazy or what. Good &quot;stance&quot; pic though!!!.....Bill S

Keith Seymore
03-28-2013, 05:09 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Keith,,,I dont remember that GTO sitting anywhere near that high in the front. Am I just crazy or what. Good &quot;stance&quot; pic though!!!.....Bill S </div></div>

The've got jackstands under the front - I presume to simulate a good launch...

K

9566 BA
03-29-2013, 11:30 AM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/9566BA/GTO%20pictures/GTOpicture4_zps0fda34c3.jpg

Keith Seymore
04-05-2013, 01:30 PM
Here's a link to a thread we had going on another forum:

http://forums.performanceyears.com/forums/showthread.php?t=588084

K

JK98SS
06-04-2013, 12:13 PM
Seat pattern is wrong for a 69 GTO.
(First post in thread)