old tires vs new tires

[black69]

I know some (including myself) are not so pro using some of the old (date code correct) vintage tires true to our cars (new reproductions are fine). Has anyone ever approached hagerty on the subject, or even MK insurance (sponser here) on this, if one was to have a blow-out with some old rubber?

I just assume they are an insurance liability risk, and IF you use them for anything but display, you are on your own (no coverage).

[al8apex]

good question ...

[L78M22Rag]

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but doesn't that argument sort of apply to the entire car? The car itself is old, and just about any wear and tear or maintenance items can fail if not kept up. There are also rules/laws regarding inspections of these cars which already include inspecting the tires along with the rest of the car. If tires are generally unsafe after a certain age, I think that should be mandate for the appropriate inspection facilities not to pass the car's inspection?

[Plowman]

Antique cars in the state of PA, are exempt from PA state inspection and emission. Therefore, if the state is not inspecting tires or car,how are you going to get the insurance companies to inspect the tires?

[67 Nova Boy]

X2 Plowman!

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[olredalert]

----Michigan doesnt seem to have any kind of safety checks for any car, safety, smog, or other......Bill S

[TDW]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Michigan doesnt seem to have any kind of safety checks for any car, safety, smog, or other......Bill S </div></div>

Not yet, but you can bet the Gov is busy trying to find a way to implement them. Just another way for the State to rob us.

[ZiggyL78]

I agree.A stock Model T even with new rubber probably doesn't stop to well especially in the rain.I'm not sure of their top speed but even at 30 MPH,people can die.I'm also surprised they don't have restrictions on Drag Radials.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but doesn't that argument sort of apply to the entire car? The car itself is old, and just about any wear and tear or maintenance items can fail if not kept up. There are also rules/laws regarding inspections of these cars which already include inspecting the tires along with the rest of the car. If tires are generally unsafe after a certain age, I think that should be mandate for the appropriate inspection facilities not to pass the car's inspection? </div></div>

[GreenLS6]

First time I had a original polyglass come apart and distroyed My quarter panel, <span style="font-weight: bold">I was done </span> with the original date code tire BS.. No deductions for modern rubber or fuel lines, so why lose a car over it?????

[Igosplut]

My tires never last long enough to have it be a problem....

[olredalert]

----We all know how hard you Provincetown guys are on rubber......Bill S

[DannyLCMC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know some (including myself) are not so pro using some of the old (date code correct) vintage tires true to our cars (new reproductions are fine). Has anyone ever approached hagerty on the subject, or even MK insurance (sponser here) on this, if one was to have a blow-out with some old rubber?

I just assume they are an insurance liability risk, and IF you use them for anything but display, you are on your own (no coverage).




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Wouldn't be any different than running worn out bald tires on your daily driver. Insurance company has no control in that.

[black69]

I will bet there is some common sense an insurer expects that we maintain our cars in 'good working order', and is likely in fine print none of us read. Get into a head on with those bald tires, and good luck with thinking your insurance company WON'T try to back out of coverage. They will. Same logic <span style="font-style: italic">may</span> apply for old tires blowing out.

[DannyLCMC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: black69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will bet there is some common sense an insurer expects that we maintain our cars in 'good working order', and is likely in fine print none of us read. Get into a head on with those bald tires, and good luck with thinking your insurance company WON'T try to back out of coverage. They will. Same logic <span style="font-style: italic">may</span> apply for old tires blowing out. </div></div>

If that were the case then insurance companies would never pay a claim. They would come up with some reason.

[SmallHurst]

I would think that common sense would come into play here at some time. Running on old tires to me does not make any sense. If you are going in and out of the trailer all of the time and that is it, then you can use the old rubber. If you are going to drive it, change it!

[al8apex]

agreed ...

[Pulnaway]

There is no valid point for driving a car with OLD tires. If you can afford one of these cars you can afford safe tires.

[Supergas990]

There is no requirement in a standard auto policy that requires a vehicle have current tires or be in a certain condition.

If the underwriter states that the tires on the car must be in a certain condition as a condition of issuing the policy that would be different. Otherwise, you can run whatever tires you're comfortable with and won't have problems with coverage.

For my cars, I prefer newer radials or repop tires. Too much blood, sweat and tears in my &quot;babies&quot; to chance it on old rubber.

Blair

[al8apex]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DannyLCMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Wouldn't be any different than running worn out bald tires on your daily driver. Insurance company has no control in that. </div></div>

and anyone that thinks they are &quot;getting the last ounce&quot; out of their tires by running heat cycled bald tires on the street are doing themselves a disservice. FRESH tires work better, they turn, they stop, they GRIP ... and they ride better.

I live in AZ and my wife used to tell me that the tires on her daily driver late model Corvette would start to &quot;squeak&quot; around corners after about 11 months of use ... yep, they were heat cycled and no longer gripping as well as they were when they were new. I started buying new tires every year even though they had less than 5k miles on them ... people were always happy to buy good used tires and the cost delta was minimal to have peace of mind that if it rains or she needs to stop or maneuver that the tires would actually respond.

EVERY car that is used in our household gets new tires every year. I have a waiting list of people that buy our old tires but I get the benefit of FRESH tires ...

Ask any &quot;in the know&quot; road racer, autocrosser or drag racer what fresh tires do ...

[Igosplut]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----We all know how hard you Provincetown guys are on rubber......Bill S</div></div>

HA! Well played Bill.

Thing is, if I owned a house in Ptown, with the property values I'd have sold it long ago so I could have that 30x50 garage behind the house in Truro payed off I always wanted.....

[olredalert]

----Ah,,,Just messin with ya, Joel. I know what you mean about property values on the Cape. We just sold the family home in Osterville because none of us kids could ever hope to even pay the property tax. My sister still lives in town so at least I have a place to hang out when Im over that way......Bill S

[Igosplut]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Ah,,,Just messin with ya, Joel. I know what you mean about property values on the Cape. We just sold the family home in Osterville because none of us kids could ever hope to even pay the property tax. My sister still lives in town so at least I have a place to hang out when Im over that way......Bill S</div></div>

No worrys at all Bill. just what it's gonna cost me to buy my shop in Truro would give most pause anywhere else....