Paypal scams.

[ZiggyL78]

I had a Scammer email me recently trying to buy a motor I have for sale.He offered to Paypal me the money.How do these guys do a scam through Paypal?If someone Paypals me the money and I wait till the bank says the money is secure,how can I lose?
Thanks

[SOM2001SS]

Maybe they hacked someone else's Paypal account? Then once Paypal finds out they probably take the money back out of your account but your motor is already long gone.

[CamaroNOS]

Thanks for the heads up.

Paul

[Pulnaway]

How do you know it was a scam?

[Lynn]

Most of the time they just send you an email that LOOKS like it is from paypal stating you have received the money. They have the logo down pat.

They are hoping you never actually check to see that payment cleared.

There is a guy overseas who uses the name Jordan David. Do an internet search. He is always out of the country and says he is a marine engineer or a petroleum engineer or something similar and that he is buying the item for his dad or his brother or his son.

Normally, anyone suggesing any particular type of payment before you have even made a deal is a scammer.

[XXXGoldL34M20]

The only way you are protected by Paypal as a seller is to take funds as "Friends and Family" option,
This has no fees and is exactly like getting cash, once you get it the buyer can't re-claim it.
If buyers send money with Paypal the normal way you are never covered as a seller, it is easy to buy a Car-Motor Etc.... and pay in full when a few weeks down the road the jackass has a complaint with Paypal, He gets a full refund and you are fighting Paypal or the buyer in court to get your item back.
A very easy Scam for anyone to do.
The classic scam is when you shipp something without a Tracked package to a buyer and they lie and say they never got it which equals a free item for the buyer and there money back. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif

[ZiggyL78]

From: &quot;[email protected]&quot; &lt;[email protected]&gt;
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:06:32 AM
Subject: A message about your ad on Team Chevelle


Built 502/502 Ramjet Crate Motor.1000 HP.

I want to purchase your Ramjet Crate Motor still available for sale,What is the last asking price,I will like to pay using PayPal,After payments has been made,I will arrange for the pick-up and will you let my pick-up agent to come to you house for the pick up?Because i don't want you to worry yourself about the shipment,Kindly get back with more pictures.

Regards

Call Ken 905 707 8313

From: Lewis Telflol &lt;[email protected]&gt;
To: Ken Seggie &lt;[email protected]&gt;
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:27:09 PM
Subject: A message about your ad on Team Chevelle


I appreciate your response,I'm an marine engineer and at this moment
am presently working offshore,Sometimes access to regular emails and
phone calls is very poor offshore due to inefficiency of the immarsat
service,I located in Pacific WA,I will be glad to know the asking
price.


Up your ass.You couldn't engineer a bird house or you would have come up with a better scam then this.Get a job.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pulnaway</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How do you know it was a scam? </div></div>

His opening line tipped me off and then the deal about the pickup agent.

[Bill Pritchard]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZiggyL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Up your ass.You couldn't engineer a bird house or you would have come up with a better scam then this.Get a job.</div></div>

Excellent response! You also could have added &quot;and please continue your outstanding use of improper English grammar so that you can continue to be a dead giveaway scammer.&quot; <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif

[x Baldwin Motion]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ZiggyL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Up your ass.You couldn't engineer a bird house or you would have come up with a better scam then this.Get a job.</div></div>

Excellent response! You also could have added &quot;and please continue your outstanding use of improper English grammar so that you can continue to be a dead giveaway scammer.&quot; <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif </div></div>


I always tell these morons to email me at work ..... [email protected]

[whitetop]

I don't know if OP's guy is a scam or not but people should not immediately discount every possible transaction as a scam. I have sold a ton of high dollar stuff overseas to people who I thought at first were &quot;funny&quot; and they later turned out to be great repeat customers.

1. In regards to the poor grammar I have read some very poor grammar from medical Doctors and people with MBA's.. I work with very educated clients every day and the grammar in emails I receive from them is often atrocious. My grammar is not the best either.

2. In regards to the purchasing agent a friend sold a antique 1956 Harley to a guy in Japan several years back and everything was done through a purchasing agent who took care of every aspect of the transaction from money wire transfer to shipping and packing-sent out 2 guys who spent nearly a whole day crating it up.

Some people do not have the time or effort to proceed with a transaction and will pay a PA to take care of everything.

[Billohio]

had similar bad English pickup agent on a Clydesdale stallion I had for sale. Would send payment and later guy to pick it up. In all the emails he said item and never called it a horse. No mention of anything personal or specific. Our number was in ad and he later called with such broken English you had no idea what he aaid

[ORIGLS6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: whitetop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

1. In regards to the poor grammar I have read some very poor grammar from medical Doctors and people with MBA's.. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">I work with very educated clients every day and the grammar in emails I receive from them is often atrocious.</span></span> My grammar is not the best either. </div></div>

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'"><span style="font-size: 20pt">BINGO!!!</span></span>

Thoroughly explains my signature line! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[parkbrau]

Let me jump in here....Americans dont close sentences with &quot;kindly&quot;. I'm stationed overseas and once I tell a seller that I almost always have to explain my situation to them because their first thought is I'm a scammer. I think I had to say screw it with maybe 2 or 3 folks, because they thought I was trying to scam them. Even after contacting them through my .AF.MIL e-mail address.

Anyway, kind regards... john von germany. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif