63 Impala SS 409-425 Horse

[TimG]

409-425 horse, an original black/white hard top with red interior. Bucket seats and console. The top was painted black during the restoration. Sold new in Patchogue, NY at Russo Chevrolet. Two year frame off restored car with pictures of the restoration. Original factory installed engine (TO413QB), transmission and 4.56 posi rear. Original carbs, intake, water pump, alternator, radiator. Great owner history, raced as "Fine 409" on the East Coast. $62,000.
[email protected] 512-657-1989

[Postsedan]

Wow! Very Nice :-)

Dan

With that combo and 4;56 rear I'll bet that sucker pulls like crazy. Sounds like an exciting car!

[foster]

what a very nice &amp; very rare car here, i beleave this car ran at the old suffolk raceway in suffolk va. do you have past history on that. thank you <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[TimG]

I don't know of it racing at Suffolk. It had big gold lettering on the front fenders. Both originals were used on the car, it would have been cool to keep one of the original lettered up fenders.
I'll post a picture of it leaving the line as &quot;Fine 409&quot;.

[PeteLeathersac]

W<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gifW, all that and black too!!!
Congrats to whoever the new wheelman of this sweetheart ends up being!

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~ Pete

[olredalert]

----Nice Chebby, Tim!!! Did it really come with a white painted top and black bottom? I dont think I have ever seen a 62-3-4 hardtop in that color combo. Has anyone else???......Bill S

[RPOLS3]

Wow - nice!

Jake

[TimG]

Bill, code 950, black with white top....
Here's a picture in its race form with the original paint. This shot is from the mid 60's. The original Crager mags go with the car.
The paint code is 950, black with white painted top.

[mockingbird812]

Very cool. blk w/ white top is unusual and sets it apart nicely. Love the vintage shot!

[Steve Shauger]

My wife is originally from Patchogue, NY. When I moved to LI in 1981, I remember the Patchogue Chevy dealer on Montauk hwy, was I believe Nessenger.

[Verne_Frantz]

Based on the VIN on the block, that car was produced at the beginning of August '63 (very late production) at the Tarrytown plant (should have a T in the VIN) and it makes sense based on the 4th week of July body built date on the cowl tag. Nice car. It's hard to find real ones.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

[TimG]

Verne, the ID number is as you mentioned; 31847T319211.
Can you believe how they made the T on the pad? They used two &quot;1's&quot;, the top of the T is a 1.

[Stefano]

That is Wild, I have never seen that before.

This is such a cool car. Like Vern said, very difficult to find a real one.

[Verne_Frantz]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verne, the ID number is as you mentioned; 31847T319211.
Can you believe how they made the T on the pad? They used two &quot;1's&quot;, the top of the T is a 1. </div></div>

Tim,
Prior to the production of your car, Tarrytown either lost or broke the &quot;T&quot;. Many original blocks and 4-spds I've seen had no &quot;T&quot; at all with the VIN stamp. They also broke or lost the normal sized &quot;1&quot;s and used larger ones. They figured out a way to &quot;fix&quot; those problems by the time your late car was produced. All of these variations are a blessing for these cars, because there is no one standard that applies to all of them. (as with Corvettes) That makes it harder to counterfeit one correctly. A lot of people might look at that engine pad and think Ray Charles stamped it, but it's REAL.
Tarrytown also had the habit (the worker did anyway) of stamping the trans VIN on the tail housing rather than the side of the main case.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

[TimG]

Verne, thank you for the valuable information. I didn't know that, I only knew the stamp was quite messy from the plant.

[TimG]

More photos, sorry for the poor background.

[TimG]

The old 409 will be at Mecum Dallas in September. It's a great car with the original motor, transmission and 4.56 rear.

[mockingbird812]

Good luck Tim. Neat car to be sure! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[bergy]

Vary nice!!!

[olredalert]

----Tim,,,This 409 would benefit from a set of correct whitewalls. Its not that I am any kind of a whitewall freak, but a black 63 SS needs the white stripes to look &quot;right&quot;!!! If it was a black two door post ordered for racing or something similar I might be persuaded otherwise, but the owner will get back more than the price of those whitewall tires by far at auction.....Bill S

[Tommy Nolen]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Tim,,,This 409 would benefit from a set of correct whitewalls. Its not that I am any kind of a whitewall freak, but a black 63 SS needs the white stripes to look &quot;right&quot;!!! If it was a black two door post ordered for racing or something similar I might be persuaded otherwise, but the owner will get back more than the price of those whitewall tires by far at auction.....Bill S </div></div>

Bill is right on, a set of 1&quot; wide bias ply whitewalls would really make a big difference and please don't think I'm pick'n but get a correct master cylinder for it. These two items would more than pay for themselves. Really nice and very desirable car. Good luck with the sale, wish my toy box wasn't so full!!

[69VN]

Really cool car!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif

[TimG]

It could whitewalls to dress it up a bit. We don't know if it had them originally. We hope to have the master cylinder corrected for the auction.

[markjohnson]

Guess I'm the only one that likes the blackwall look.

[ZAPPER68]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markjohnson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guess I'm the only one that likes the blackwall look. </div></div>

Nope, there's two of us that like the blackwall look....

[PeteLeathersac]

I'm w/ you two too, thin or wide the only whitewalls I like are those spun to the inside.
I do like redlines though and white letters too!
That said, the whitewall advice above is still best for buyer appeal.
C<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gifL 9'er!

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~ Pete

[black69]

I too like the blackwalls better. I would paint the top back to white as it is too unique to not restore that back.
very cool car!

[GTO_DON]

White roof along with some period correct M/T super stock cheaters on the back would do it for me.

[TimG]

I think the skinny Cragers and black walls would look good.

[427TJ]

The blackwalls make the car stand out. &quot;Everyone&quot; puts whitewalls on them. BUT, the correct WWs would look good too. Perhaps a set US Royal Masters for a 1963 Day 2 cruiser look.

[TimG]

Same car, no changes in the wheels or top. Price now $52,000.

[joe1148]

I like the new price too.

Awesome car

[GaryC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">409-425 horse, an original black/white hard top with red interior. Bucket seats and console. The top was painted black during the restoration. Sold new in Patchogue, NY at Russo Chevrolet. Two year frame off restored car with pictures of the restoration. Original factory installed engine (TO413QB), transmission and 4.56 posi rear. Original carbs, intake, water pump, alternator, radiator. Great owner history, raced as &quot;Fine 409&quot; on the East Coast. $62,000.
[email protected] 512-657-1989 </div></div>


This car looks menacing. Just think, something like this car driving past you on I85 at 2 am, add some tinted black windows...

[TimG]

Time to sell this one, $49,000.

[my69rat]

I too like the blackwalls better. I would paint the top back to white as it is too unique to not restore that back.
very cool car!

I'm with you on the top being white.

[TimG]

With a few new Corvettes in the stable, it's time to sell the 409. Good car that shakes the earth every time it’s started. It likes race gas, that’s for sure.

[mockingbird812]

That is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">A LOT </span></span></span></span></span>of car for the money!!! Best of luck Tim! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[RCH]

This is a very nice car and for the Money someone could not go wrong.

[RCH]

Car still for sale?

[TimG]

It is, had it out and running last weekend.

[TimG]

The good old 409 with its original engine, transmission and 4.56 rear end is ready to find a new home. $42,000 takes this car home.

[Atuckman]

wow. that is great value for a real car

[TimG]

The phone is ringing and the emails are coming in. I think this car will be gone soon.

[TimG]

This great car went to a good home..........

[Verne_Frantz]

Congratulations to the new owner. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif If he wants any help with documentation, I'd be happy to assist.

Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

[PeteLeathersac]

Super deal, congrats to the lucky new owner!
There's a pair of original '63 CA black plates on eBay now w/ W-409 as part of the #'s, cool for this car or others...
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1963-black-yellow...=item3f3b0a9e05 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1963-black-yellow-license-plates-California-Dealer-San-Jose-ca-plymouth-chrysler-/271573491205?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3f3b0a 9e05)

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~ Pete

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[TimG]

Great plates, how good would those look.......

[TimG]

Verne, thank you for all of your positive comments on the car over the course of its advertising.

[Verne_Frantz]

My pleasure. It's a lot more satisfying to point out a real one than a fake one.
Verne <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/flag.gif

[Stefano]

Thanks to the Guys in Austin for the help, you can't go wrong buying a car from them and to our very own resident 409 afficionado, Vern for all the help. Tom and I got the exterior detailed and took the '09 for a nice ride in the country.



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got the exterior detailed and took the '09 for a nice ride in the country.

[RPOLS3]

What a great car.

[Postsedan]

Red Guts <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[69LM1]

Very nice looking car!

Rich

[daverd]

Absolutely love it heater delete too!!!!!
guy on my street had a 63 409 convertible
Dual quad it was blue and that car was fast !!!!!!
( I was about 11 and already a gear head I'd fetch him
Green bottle cokes while he worked on it
And I'd get rides while he power shifted
He beat a lot of newer muscle cars ......helped put the
Rebuilt engine back in ......still love 409s ...

[olredalert]

----Its funny, the only 409 car in my neighborhood back in the era was a maroon/black gut 340 horse 4spd convert. It ran pretty good but he regularly got stomped by his buddies 63 Biscayne with a transplanted 327/365 Vette motor. I was 17 or so at the time......Bill S

[TimG]

Wow, those are some great glamour shots. The car looks good......

Thank you, Stefano.

[black69]

that was a great buy!

[markjohnson]

That's what will always be cool about 409's. EVERYBODY has a great 409 story from back in the day.

[68l30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Its funny, the only 409 car in my neighborhood back in the era was a maroon/black gut 340 horse 4spd convert. It ran pretty good but he regularly got stomped by his buddies 63 Biscayne with a transplanted 327/365 Vette motor. I was 17 or so at the time......Bill S </div></div>


Was this in Medina Bill? There was a real quick 62 O9' running in the Brunswick area....


BIG

[Stefano]

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[TimG]

Ya, Baby.......it needed those white walls.

[TimG]

It looks like the correct master cylinder is back on it, too.

[olredalert]

----Close enough! That maroon 63 was based around Chippewa Lake as was the Biscayne. Rumor had it that the 365 motor was a bit warm as well as the trans, if you know what I mean.

----I knew that black car would look right with the whites on it. Does it ever!!!......Bill S

[mockingbird812]

Wow! Looks terrific!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

[Stefano]

Correct B.F. Goodrich Silvertown's , Correct master, Correct 4 core radiator. Nice exterior detail and buff.

All fluids fresh.

Lot's of the repro parts already swapped out with NOS or originals. Still more to follow.

[mockingbird812]

So Stefano are you the new owner? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

[tom406]

You know, a white painted top would sure set off those Silvertown whitewalls.....just sayin';)

[Stefano]

Yes, it's now in NicKey inventory and we'll let the next owner decide on the color of the top. It's a quick fix, but I like it this way best as far as color.

[olredalert]

----I can see the fingers of one of the foremost 409 guys around have touched this 63 already, and that's a good thing. Nobody knows more!......Bill S

[TimG]

I offered to drive it to St. Charles, but Tom wanted to pick it up. That would have been an expensive drive with 4.56 gears.