124379N615242 LeMans blue 4-speed Gibb-Illinois 43

[Stefano]

124379N615242 LeMans blue 4-speed Gibb-Illinois 43.

Does anyone have info on this ZL1 #43?

[William]

#43 has been registered to the Erie Insurance Exchange since it was stolen in 1972 from Hauser Chev.

Myself and others have had several inquiries concerning it over the past few years. It usually involves someone who claims to know where it is, can buy it cheap, and will flip it to you for $50,000. I heard last week that someone was trying to buy the title from Erie.

Proceed with caution.

[Stefano]

Thank you for your information.

[Charley Lillard]

We are looking for info on # 42, not 43.

[supercomp 8.90]

malcolm durhams car originally, strip blazer jr. listed as destroyed on eds old list.

[supercomp 8.90]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/06/full-1481-5307-_42_zl1.jpg


heres the engine out of #42.

[DW31S]

I just noticed that the engine ending in #19N615242 believed to be from Malcom Durham's car is advertised for sale at Proteam Corvettes for $50k. The ad is in the August 2013 Hemmings Motor News.

[supercomp 8.90]

yes that is where the photo was taken, my buddy went there to look at the 6 426 hemis they had for sale a package deal for thirty thousand. he snapped a shot of the zl1 while he was there.

[supercomp 8.90]

oh by the way they are asking 50,000 for the zl1 with its parts.

[Charley Lillard]

Speaking of ZL1 # 43 I got this email from the orig owner this morning. He allowed me to post it.

I was just reading the posts on the ZL1 #43 and I was intrigued by the reference made by some individual referring to the opportunity to purchase the car.
I’m the person who owned the car which was stolen after I filed suit against Hauser Chevrolet for refusing to fix it. The car had a warranty and by rights they were in violation of those terms.
Actually the car sat inside a locked fenced yard along with brand new cars (Corvettes, Camaros, Novas, regular Chevys and trucks). The Zl1 #43 was the only used car in that lot and near the locked gate. The car was parked there for over a year and very conveniently “disappeared” between a Sunday night and a Monday morning.
A meeting had been schedule between myself, my lawyer, Greg Moore (owner of Hauser Chevrolet) and the Regional Sales Representative for Chevrolet for 10:00 that Monday morning. About 8:30 AM, Bethlehem Police called to let me know that car had been reported stolen. How convenient, hey!!!!
An acquaintance and I have spent a tremendous amount of time over the years in trying to locate the car. From what I have been told and my gut feeling from the beginning has been, that the “caper” was an inside job, due to the fact that Greg Moore was Racing the #4 ZL1 and that he was using my #43 Vin to get parts for the #4 car.
Anyway, since its been over 40 years and some of those individuals that I spoke with have passed away, there are very few people left that may know what really happened to the car. One thing is for sure, who ever has the car will never be able to sell it as the ZL1 #43 since my insurance company still holds the tittle and PA DMV has the vin recorded as stolen.
I still have the original paper work and have asked my insurance company that if the car is ever recovered, that they inform me because I would like to have shot at getting it back.

LOTS OF LUCK, Right???

[PeteLeathersac]

Cool update on ZL1 #43, thanks for sharing!
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~ Pete

[William]

ZL1 #4 was sold as a used car by Hauser April 1971, long before your car was stolen. #4 was raced by Len Sabatine, not Greg Moore.

Why would they need a VIN to get parts?

[PxTx]

I thought the issue seemed that the #4 benefitted from extra parts expensed under the #43 vin. When #43 needed to exercise warranty, GM stepped in to investigate suspected abuse which delayed the proper and timely repair to #43.

[William]

Parts don't make sense.

Maybe #43 had a very tired, non-original ZL1 engine when it was sold. How do you explain that to the warranty rep?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I think this is ZL1 #4 from Hauser:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/ZL1number4HauserChev_zps1eed4fc5.jpg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/aacorp/media/ZL1number4HauserChev_zps1eed4fc5.jpg.html)

[PeteLeathersac]

Way cool pic!
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~ Pete

[Mr70]

great pic!

[SMGCO]

Thanks for sharing. Great pic !

[Charley Lillard]

More from the owner....

Hi Charley

Since I can not reply directly to the postings by the Yenko members, let me explain what I know and please post it.

The #4 ZL1 was raced by Len Sabatine for Ben Moore (Hauser) in 1969. While #4 was being raced, #43 was for sale. I had looked at the car several times (without a salesman nagging me). So the issue of parts being order for #4 while #43 was for sale makes sense.
I had several speed shops look at the car before I turned it over to Hauser. I was told that the reason why the car wouldn't run properly (Fouled Plugs) was because the car sat unused for a long time or &quot;abused&quot; and the valve guides had cracked. I was told to tell Hauser to change the guides to TEFLON and the problem would be corrected, of course they refuse.

As to the engine being sold out it is not true. Hauser did sell the ZL1 engine out of #4 and replaced it with a 396, which Hauser then sold the car to a local customer.

The last I heard is that the #4 is alive and well with a replacement ZL1 engine resides in Wisconsin.

I would not surprise if the engine in #43 had been switched at some point with the engine from the #4, which would explain why Hauser kept delaying the meeting with the Chevrolet rep. Who knows crooks are crooks!!!!

I'm sure that there's at least one individual out there that knows something...so if you are and you read my posting, I would love hear any information about it before I die.

Thanks again.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'll have to look up the old address for Hauser, I work but a few miles away and would like to see what it looks like today.....

[Unreal]

Can you imagine paying 7K for a ZL1, and selling the engine, and then putting a 396 in her!

[PeteLeathersac]

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Zone # <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">15</span></span>
Dealer Code # <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">271</span></span>

Hauser Chevrolet Co.
529 E Broad Street
Bethlehem PA 18018

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~ Pete

[bigsixman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unreal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can you imagine paying 7K for a ZL1, and selling the engine, and then putting a 396 in her! </div></div>
There were many 1965 Impalas ordered and purchased for the L-78 396/425 engine only. The motor was pulled and a 327 installed and the car sold because the motors were not available through GM parts and that was the only way to acquire a 396 &quot;semi hemi&quot; for your race car in 1965. I am sure most of these did not require a huge out lay of cash after the engine swap and after selling the original car. A friend of mine did that to a 65 Impala SS and swapped the 396/425 motor into a Henry J.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'm not sure which of the 2 Hauser ZL1's is for sale in this ad, but if the #4 car had a 396 installed before being sold then this one would be the #43 car. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/HauserAd_zps7e9c5586.jpg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/aacorp/media/HauserAd_zps7e9c5586.jpg.html)

[Lynn]

Looks like the engine is back on the market.

19N615242

https://www.hemmings.com/parts/item/12184.html?refer=news

[COPO]

If it's really the engine from #42, that's not a bad asking price. Would be a deal for someone with a ZL-1 who wanted an original engine from an actual car versus an OTC engine.

[William]

It is fairly priced but the engine in the photo is configured for a Corvette, not a Camaro. Several incorrect parts. Oil pan and balancer should be black, not orange.

N615242 was a race car from new, last seen in a National Dragster classified ad circa 1974. Probably still exists but heavily modified.

[Lynn]

From the ad:

Item Description:

Category: Engine

Rare Camaro ZL1 Motor Assembly (1969). Cast # 3946052, VIN # 19N615242, Stamp pad T0310ML, Carb 3955205 List 4296, Intake 3933198, Heads 3946074. Also Connecting rods, damper, pistons, tin, etc. This is from a Gib Chevrolet car # 42 (Lemans Blue ZL1 Coupe), transferred (Chevrolet Redistribution) to Lustine Chevrolet in Maryland and became the famous Macolm Durham “Strip Blazer Jr.” race car. $29,995.00!

Offered by Pro Team Corvettes