Need to Find a Museum for a 70 Ram Air IV GTO

[bulletpruf]

Fellas -

I have a bit of a dilemma. I'm active duty Army, moving to Korea in a week. I'll be there for 2 years. Also just finishing up a concours frame off restoration of a 70 Ram Air IV GTO - Pepper Green, black bench interior, M21, 4.33, manual steering and brakes, radio delete. Resto done by Darrell Davidson at Supercar Creations in Norton Ohio (www.supercarcreations.com (http://www.supercarcreations.com)). The "coming out" party will happen at the GTOAA/POCI "Co-Vention" in Dayton, OH in a few weeks (9-13 July). Darrell has done several Concours Gold cars and that's what we expect here.

I can park the car in a climate controlled storage unit while I'm in Korea, but I like the idea of putting it in a museum so it can be appreciated by the general public.

Anyone have any thoughts/input? I'm thinking that if I go with a reputable museum, I really don't have too much to worry about, right? I'll obviously have insurance, and don't expect the car to be handled, driven, sat in, etc. Does any money need to change hands? I'm assuming that museums won't charge me to keep my car there nor will they pay me to have my car on display, but I'm clueless here.

Also curious about selling the car while it's at a museum. I realize that they don't want to be responsible for showing or selling the car, but everything that I have is for sale for the right price. Can I tell them that if someone wants the car that I'll sell it for a certain amount?

Any recommendations on museums? I've spoken with Floyd Garrett and he's interested in having the car at his museum in Tennessee, but wondering what else is out there.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Scott

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I would recommend Floyds museum, when I was there he was great fun to talk to as he puttered around filling up a King Cobras tire, etc.

He had a Carousel Red GTO when I was there and it was spectacular.

His museum is well set up to display other people's cars like yours as a good percentage of his Museum is already set up that way.

There was word that he is working on a ownership change or at least phasing himself out of daily duty at the museum, if any issues arise I will take care of your car till you return, no charge.....it has the diggers for 1320's right.

Ryan

PS: If you don't stand behind the troops, feel free to stand in front of them........

[scorpio ps]

Restoring a Ram Air IV GTO. Wow, I guess the Army pays a lot better than when I was in, $246.00 per month. Army Strong.

[ZiggyL78]

I don't know if it's the type of museum you are interested in.Don Garlits has quite a few cars that are donated for a certain amount of time.Security while they are open could be an issue.
Nice of you to consider such a move.

[elonblock]

Have you considered the AACA museum?
http://www.aacamuseum.org/

[mockingbird812]

Scott,

Could you post ( a lot) photos of your Goat? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[Tommy Nolen]

Floyd is your best bet. I kept cars there for five years, he's a stand up guy

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Floyd is your best bet. I kept cars there for five years, he's a stand up guy </div></div>

Here is your answer, from someone who has done exactly what you are considering.

Don't hide it away in storage as some guys were suggesting on TC, share it as you mentioned.

Ryan

[tjs44]

I think I donated a little cash to that restoration!Tom

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would recommend Floyds museum, when I was there he was great fun to talk to as he puttered around filling up a King Cobras tire, etc.

He had a Carousel Red GTO when I was there and it was spectacular.

His museum is well set up to display other people's cars like yours as a good percentage of his Museum is already set up that way.

There was word that he is working on a ownership change or at least phasing himself out of daily duty at the museum, if any issues arise I will take care of your car till you return, no charge.....it has the diggers for 1320's right.

Ryan

PS: If you don't stand behind the troops, feel free to stand in front of them........ </div></div>

Thanks, Ryan. Appreciate the input. Floyd seems like a great guy.

Scott

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scorpio ps</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Restoring a Ram Air IV GTO. Wow, I guess the Army pays a lot better than when I was in, $246.00 per month. Army Strong. </div></div>

I enlisted in '85. Started off at $560/month as an E2. I've had a few promotions since then.

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elonblock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you considered the AACA museum?
http://www.aacamuseum.org/ </div></div>

Not really. Looking for a place that focuses on musclecars.

Thanks

Scott

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott,

Could you post ( a lot) photos of your Goat? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif </div></div>

Sure thing.

Bought it in 2007 while I was finishing up a 15 month tour in Iraq. Came from Richmond, IN. Spent its entire life there; was sold new at Wells Pontiac. Was a decent driver when I got it, but really needed to be done right.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m118/sd_walters/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/100_4534.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/sd_walters/media/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/100_4534.jpg.html)

Some minor surgery... Used OEM quarters on the car. Fit better than NOS.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m118/sd_walters/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_3937.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/sd_walters/media/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_3937.jpg.html)

Darrell has done a few of these cars to concours gold standards and is pretty sharp on the details. No hardware store bolts here; just replated OEM stuff with correct foundry markings.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m118/sd_walters/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_1338.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/sd_walters/media/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_1338.jpg.html)

Color primer.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m118/sd_walters/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_1525_zps11b05e4c.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/sd_walters/media/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_1525_zps11b05e4c.jpg.html)

Jody Haag did the M21 (upgraded with M22 guts). I normally build my own motors, but this one was built to Pure Stock Drags specs by Jim Lehart in Burke, VA. Jim's a die hard Pontiac guy and the motor was breathed on as much as PSD rules allow.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m118/sd_walters/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_1834_zps621aa6a7.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/sd_walters/media/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_1834_zps621aa6a7.jpg.html)

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m118/sd_walters/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_1956_zps39cef349.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/sd_walters/media/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_1956_zps39cef349.jpg.html)

Pepper Green!!!

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m118/sd_walters/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_2173_zps93563510.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/sd_walters/media/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_2173_zps93563510.jpg.html)

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tommy Nolen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Floyd is your best bet. I kept cars there for five years, he's a stand up guy </div></div>

Thanks, that's good to hear. Pretty sure that's where the car will end up.

Scott

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tjs44</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think I donated a little cash to that restoration!Tom </div></div>

Yep - proceeds from the sale of the gold 69 Judge (and the 66 SS Chevelle, 68 hemi Roadrunner, 71 GTX, the other 69 Judge, the 66 Fairlane, etc) went towards the resto costs!

[flyingn]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elonblock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you considered the AACA museum?
http://www.aacamuseum.org/ </div></div>

I second this... Great car museum

[Tommy Nolen]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: flyingn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elonblock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have you considered the AACA museum?
http://www.aacamuseum.org/ </div></div>

I second this... Great car museum </div></div>

The AACA Museum is a great place but it won't work for what he wants. I've loaned cars to them also but they change their displays about every 6 months. The only way they would keep the car for any lenght of time would be if he was donating the car to the museum and I don't think that is the intent here.

[SOM2001SS]

Possibly the Tim Wellborn museum? www.wellbornmusclecarmuseum.com (http://www.wellbornmusclecarmuseum.com)
I know he's mostly a Mopar guy and most of the cars are his, but I believe he will accept other cars too.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Great stuff.

Hope to see you at the 2016 PSMCDR. This car will fit in nicely with the quality of cars at the pure stock drags. (not kidding like a car show where everyone gets in them show cars and races them.)

Ryan

PS: Pepper green is sick. (If sick now means really good)

[bashton]

I also would highly recommend Floyd's museum. Your car will be properly displayed in a nice clean environment and wont sit off in a corner dusty and neglected. Floyd has the same passion and appreciation for high horse muscle as the rest of us, and as stated, he is a great guy.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bashton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I also would highly recommend Floyd's museum. Your car will be properly displayed in a nice clean environment and wont sit off in a corner dusty and neglected. Floyd has the same passion and appreciation for high horse muscle as the rest of us, and as stated, he is a great guy.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member </div></div>

High praise, sounds like a no brainer.

Ryan

[bulletpruf]

Hey fellas - good news - my car won &quot;Best Concours Restored&quot; out of 93 concours cars at the 2013 GTOAA Nationals a few months ago. Bad news - I wasn't able to make it, and I haven't even seen the car since it's been done. Actually haven't seen it in over a year, I think. It was at a shop in Ohio, I was stationed at Ft Benning, GA, and I transferred to Korea (Seoul/Yongsan Army Garrison/8th Army) in mid June and was crazy busy so couldn't come back for the show. Darrell Davidson (Supercar Creations in Norton, OH) who did the restoration, took it to the Nats.

Anyway, it's headed to MCACN in a few weeks. Anyone know where I can find a professional photographer who will be attending the show to take some pictures of it?

Thanks,

Scott

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bulletpruf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey fellas - good news - my car won &quot;Best Concours Restored&quot; out of 93 concours cars at the 2013 GTOAA Nationals a few months ago. Bad news - I wasn't able to make it, and I haven't even seen the car since it's been done. Actually haven't seen it in over a year, I think. It was at a shop in Ohio, I was stationed at Ft Benning, GA, and I transferred to Korea (Seoul/Yongsan Army Garrison/8th Army) in mid June and was crazy busy so couldn't come back for the show. Darrell Davidson (Supercar Creations in Norton, OH) who did the restoration, took it to the Nats.

Anyway, it's headed to MCACN in a few weeks. Anyone know where I can find a professional photographer who will be attending the show to take some pictures of it?

Thanks,

Scott </div></div>

I will post some unprofessional pictures, I have met a couple Hemmings guys at PSMCDR, if they are at MCACN I will ask them to take a few pics of your Goat.

Did you pick a museum?

Ryan

[mockingbird812]

Congrats Scott. There'll be a bunch of photogs at MCACN and I'm sure your beauty will attract them! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Your restorer must have taken some pix - can you post a few here?

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bulletpruf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey fellas - good news - my car won &quot;Best Concours Restored&quot; out of 93 concours cars at the 2013 GTOAA Nationals a few months ago. Bad news - I wasn't able to make it, and I haven't even seen the car since it's been done. Actually haven't seen it in over a year, I think. It was at a shop in Ohio, I was stationed at Ft Benning, GA, and I transferred to Korea (Seoul/Yongsan Army Garrison/8th Army) in mid June and was crazy busy so couldn't come back for the show. Darrell Davidson (Supercar Creations in Norton, OH) who did the restoration, took it to the Nats.

Anyway, it's headed to MCACN in a few weeks. Anyone know where I can find a professional photographer who will be attending the show to take some pictures of it?

Thanks,

Scott </div></div>

I will post some unprofessional pictures, I have met a couple Hemmings guys at PSMCDR, if they are at MCACN I will ask them to take a few pics of your Goat.

Did you pick a museum?

Ryan
</div></div>

Ryan -

Yes, it's going to Floyd Garrett's museum.

Hemmings guys are supposed to be interested in doing a feature; need to let them know that it's going to be at MCACN.

There's a pic in the current Muscle Car Review; full feature coming up.

Thanks,

Scott

[bulletpruf]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Congrats Scott. There'll be a bunch of photogs at MCACN and I'm sure your beauty will attract them! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Your restorer must have taken some pix - can you post a few here? </div></div>

Here you go!

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m118/sd_walters/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_20131020_094136_142_zps78590457.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/user/sd_walters/media/Cars/70%20RAIV%20GTO/IMG_20131020_094136_142_zps78590457.jpg.html)

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