MSN Article...

[WILMASBOYL78]

Some of the facts and tech are a little off... but, interesting to article to start the day.

wilma


http://editorial.autos.msn.com/muscle-cars-20-that-made-history?icid=autos_4458

[mockingbird812]

Thanks Tom! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[427TJ]

Love that Challenger R/T convertible with the full wheelcovers and whitewalls!

[earntaz]

No mention of L-88 Vettes' ...

[mockingbird812]

everyone knows 'vettes aren't muscle cars! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif

[Hemicolt]

At least they didn't say the TOP 20 cars.
No 1st gen. Camaros or 70 and up Cudas?

[WILMASBOYL78]

They have the wrong photo for the Z16 Chevelle and the 70 LS6 looks a little retro...wilma

[Mr70]

Retro?
That '70 SS Chevelle example was taken from an original 1970 dealership showroom board.

[markjohnson]

That yellow Chevelle has four dead hookers in the trunk . . . .

[StealthBird]

It's MSN guys, not exactly a beacon of automotive knowledge or automotive history. This has as much credibility as an article from Rolling Stone Magazine on the greatest U.S. presidents. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif When the media want to generate web hits, all they need to do is create a &quot;Top 10&quot; list of something, anything, to create some web traffic, which means $$$ for them.

As for &quot;making history&quot; (an overused term with young people nowadays), I would agree on most of their choices, but would question these:

- They threw a bone to AMC with the 1970 Rebel Machine (one of my favorites), but AMC broke their image wide open with the 1969 SC/Rambler, not the 1970 Machine.

- 1969 Hurst/Olds - while one of my favorites, it wasn't exactly a groundbreaker in muscle car terms. The 1968 H/O was the first Olds of this type, with a unique paint scheme, the not-supposed-to-be-available-455 under the hood, and it was the first truly aggressive looking Olds musclecar that garnered attention driving down the street.

- Not sure why they would include a 1998 WS6 Trans Am as a car that &quot;made history&quot;, it was more of an evolutionary car, nearly identical to the 1997 model, except for the addition of the LS1. A more appropriate or &quot;historic&quot; year for these cars would have been 1993, when GM stunned street enthusiasts with an all-new F-body, stuffed a Corvette engine under the hood, and made the 6-speed manual available. Mustang guys had nightmares for years about this one.

- The 1985 Mustang 5.0 or GT, a car that became one of the most iconic street racers of the 1980's and 1990's, a true musclecar, should have been on the list.

- Also missing is the 1969 Trans Am, a car that not only went like stink in a straight line, but also handled with the best of them, and had functional aerodynamic devices. The Trans Am nameplate became iconic.

I think I agree with the other selections, although I probably would have skipped the Cadillac CTS-V. Although a very cool car, there were other cars that were more important cars that &quot;made history&quot; (according to the title of the article) than the 2009 Caddy. Maybe if this was a Top 50 list...

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[442w30]

Aside of the incorrect details, I think they did well in choosing the significant muscle cars. Unlike Mike, I do think the '69 H/O is a good choice, and I don't agree the '69 should have been on the list - if anything, the '73-4 SD is more deserving. I do think the Rebel Machine is an odd choice; in fact, going by the criteria, no AMCs should have been on the list, although I think the '69 indeed is the one to pick.

[Tracker1]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Retro?
That '70 SS Chevelle example was taken from an original 1970 dealership showroom board. </div></div>

Is that a priest giving the SS Chevelle convertible its last rites?

[Mr70]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is that a priest giving the SS Chevelle convertible its last rites? </div></div>


It's a disgruntled Judge,as in GTO Judge. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif