What is the value of a 1967 L79 Chevy II...

[cook_dw]

Just at the title states and that includes original born with drivetrain & p-o-p (& yes EVERYTHING checks out). Value of the car once restored.

[1969L78Nova]

I believe they only made 6 of them...Only 2 are known to exist today.
They both have orange intake manifolds (cast iron) and
open-element air cleaners.

[cook_dw]

6

[1969L78Nova]

DW...You got the correct number before I had a chance to edit...You obviously know how rare these beauties are...Good luck with this venture.

[tom406]

My .02. Given that a couple of '66s have gotten into six figures lately, I see no reason why this car wouldn't get there as well, $100-125K assuming the resto is no-excuses and that the provenance is bulletproof. The fact that its such a unicorn presents its own set of challenges, mostly around the fact that since they're so rare many buyers may never get past the feeling that they're being played and won't believe the proof regardless of how compelling you think it is, and the fact that while many guys remember and lusted after '66 L79s, few people even know about the '67's and therefore have never thought about owning one. So you're left a bit to the whims of how many true early Nova enthusiast/geeks have money in their pockets when you go to market, especially if its not an SS and/or outfitted in traditional musclecar colors.

On the plus side, it does appear that there are a couple of significant collections being put together with really deep pockets, and they might be willing to step up for this "unicorn".

Given the right buyers, it could certainly sell for significantly more than a '66, but I personally wouldn't count on it.

[cook_dw]

Yes I understand the issue with people not believing what it is; especially with the way restampings & counterfeiting that has gone on just in the Camaro world. But this car was sold new in Nashville & has stayed within just a few miles of me all of its life. Current owner bought the car just because he wanted a 67 SS and later found the pop in the glovebox. Needless to say its one of those barn find kinda stories because it was literally in a chicken coop for the majority of the late 70s & 80s. Just to set the story even more; the car had the ole pot leaf on each side of the quarter panels. Unfortunately no pictures of this but I did view it with my own eyes. Previous owner went to jail then had his brother sell the car to its current owner. Needless to say with the life this car has had it is a wonder all of its parts were still there.

Marina Blue with blk vinyl top & blk interior
ZI engine w/ cast iron intake & Qjet carb, saginaw trans & FQ rear. Build date is 06B

[67 Nova Boy]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-8651-6261-dsc01131.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-8651-6262-dsc01132.jpg

Here's one...they were built at the end of the run for some silly reason. May/June build time of {6} 1967 Nova L-79/327/325 HP

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[cook_dw]

I posted this same thread on another site and this is one of the replies I received. Is this correct?

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">There were no production L-79's made in 1967 they were all built as COPO's to replace cars that had already given their lives in the line of duty so that those racers in NHRA's SS class could continue to campaign their Chevy II's.

Even Da Grump (who wrecked his '66 L-79 match racing and bought two '67 L-79 cars to replace it with one being held in reserve as a spare) where well aware of the up coming 1968 Nova SS 396 car and had prototypes to look at in 1967).

Chevrolet intentionally banned all L-79 orders to promote their new for 1967 SS 350 Camaros or the equally new 302 Z/28 as race cars they wanted on the track for people to see on Sunday (so that come Monday the public would clammer to buy one on Monday).

Any 1967 L-79 car you find will have been originally in the possession of a successful or at least famous SS class drag racer who had probably campaigned it that race season (which can add to the value of the car).

Chevy sold some of these cars as a body in white with the power train on a pallet shipped with the body. Any &quot;barn Find&quot; of a complete, virgin stock car is going to be immediately suspect. This is one rare car that has been well documented as to it's origins and it's scarci</span>ty.</span>

[novadude]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I posted this same thread on another site and this is one of the replies I received. Is this correct?

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">There were no production L-79's made in 1967 they were all built as COPO's to replace cars that had already given their lives in the line of duty so that those racers in NHRA's SS class could continue to campaign their Chevy II's.

Even Da Grump (who wrecked his '66 L-79 match racing and bought two '67 L-79 cars to replace it with one being held in reserve as a spare) where well aware of the up coming 1968 Nova SS 396 car and had prototypes to look at in 1967).

Chevrolet intentionally banned all L-79 orders to promote their new for 1967 SS 350 Camaros or the equally new 302 Z/28 as race cars they wanted on the track for people to see on Sunday (so that come Monday the public would clammer to buy one on Monday).

Any 1967 L-79 car you find will have been originally in the possession of a successful or at least famous SS class drag racer who had probably campaigned it that race season (which can add to the value of the car).

Chevy sold some of these cars as a body in white with the power train on a pallet shipped with the body. Any &quot;barn Find&quot; of a complete, virgin stock car is going to be immediately suspect. This is one rare car that has been well documented as to it's origins and it's scarci</span>ty.</span> </div></div>

I don't buy this. With the Q-jet and cast intake, this car wouldn't qualify to run as a &quot;1966 L-79&quot;, and they didn't make enough of them to qualify for any NHRA stock class (and GM would have rather had the big name racers in Camaros anyway).

[WILMASBOYL78]

As soon as I saw that response I knew where it came from...simply disregard it <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif...the authenticity and originality of the existing cars is well known.

wilma

[cook_dw]

Current owner gave me the ok to post the pics of the pop and trim tag. Vins have been removed from paperwork.

Not a great pic of the trim tag but you get the idea.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/IMG_3390_zps31d00af8-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/IMG_3390_zps31d00af8-1.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/IMG_0935_zpsf4d3aa2e-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/IMG_0935_zpsf4d3aa2e-1.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/67L79pop_zps0524a981-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/67L79pop_zps0524a981-1.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/67L79dealerpaperwork_zps0a1cbb8b-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/67L79dealerpaperwork_zps0a1cbb8b-1.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/IMG_0938_zpscf100ba6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/1967%20Chevy%20II%20L79/IMG_0938_zpscf100ba6.jpg.html)

[Bill Pritchard]

06B TT build date and orginal sale date of 6/26/67 would seem to be in line with Dave's info on build dates. Very nice documentation.

[Charley Lillard]

Who was it that posted on another site than none were built ?

[DW31S]

Looking to hear more about this one. As for the price after restoration, that is dependent on who does the resto. and how it turns out. With a car like this, in my opinion, it would well be worth getting one of the high-end reputable shops do the work. Say, a Level One type (and there are others) that has established itself within our community and with the top buyers. Also, the price is dependent on where the car is offered for sale. Some cars change hands privately and the prices never are divulged, then others are sold at the TV auctions during prime time, and emotions (and yes, sometimes alcohol) may govern the amount of the sale price. Given all the variables, predicting the future would at best, be a guess until more is known. You can bet, though, if all the stars are aligned, it will be a WHOLE LOT!!!

[cook_dw]

This guy.... (http://www.novas.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22890)

[Schonyenko2]

My 2 cents: Jack Druer?(sp) owned one, and restored another one if I remember correctly. I believe he knows more about what's correct than just about anyone. I believe that's his car pictured in this thread. He's a very nice man. I don't have his contact info, but would be worth it to track him down. JMHO

[TN2Lane]

My grandparents lived 2 blocks from the original owner - too bad nobody's left around to ask if they remember it.

[bigsixman]

I do not believe this response at all, I agree with the responses from Wilma and novadude on this issue. The last two paragraphs make no sense and I would welcome any and all documentation regarding those last two statements.

[67 Nova Boy]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-8651-6263-dsc01138.jpg

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[67 Nova Boy]

What don't you agree with?

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[cook_dw]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What don't you agree with?

Dave
67 Nova Boy </div></div>

I think he was referring to the post from the other board..

Thanks for all the info guys.

[novadude]

I'd really love to hear the definitive answer on WHY these 6 cars were built. Also, why did they use the Q-jet and Iron intake when the Vette and Chevelle L-79 still used the Holley in '67?

It's a huge mystery to me as to why they'd produce this handful of cars at the end of a model year when the '68 Chevy II was going to be an all-new design. Especially when you consider that the '67 Chevy II 327 L-79 had several unique features (block, oil pump, pan, windage tray, intake, carb, etc) that made it completely different from other L-79s being produced that year. It wasn't like they could just stab in an L-79 destined for a Vette or Chevelle. I've heard several theories and none make sense to me.

[67 Nova Boy]

Yes....I agree too!

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[cook_dw]

Doing a little searching this morning and ran across the L79 registry.. Its shows 3 67 Chevy II's that are registered.

National L79 Registry (http://l79registry.macswebs.com/tech/trivia.htm)

One can assume at this point that the Jack Duer car is one of the ones on the list. But where are the other 2?



I venture to say this is not one of them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/DSC06367_zps6259b2f6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/DSC06367_zps6259b2f6.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/superslow/DSC06369_zps1e1457a6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/superslow/media/DSC06369_zps1e1457a6.jpg.html)


NOTE: This is not the car I originally was asking value about..

[67 Nova Boy]

Yes...this is one of the two that are known with Docs. This is Dan Millers 67 Nova L79

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

That's one of 'em, Dan's car is a really good one.

[cook_dw]

Ok which are these then?

1967 Chevy II Spec. High Perf., A.I.R., A/C ZG *
1967 Chevy II Spec. High Perf. ZI *
1967 Chevy II Spec. High Perf., A/C ZJ *


* Only 6 Chevy IIs are reported to have been built according to Chevrolet accumulative production totals

Their website is a little misleading. It shows 3 that they are saying are L79's but then when you CLICK HERE (http://l79registry.macswebs.com/1967/1967.htm)

It shows this car

http://l79registry.macswebs.com/1967/more/711009xx_car.jpg

[300deluxeL79]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I posted this same thread on another site and this is one of the replies I received. Is this correct?

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">There were no production L-79's made in 1967 they were all built as COPO's to replace cars that had already given their lives in the line of duty so that those racers in NHRA's SS class could continue to campaign their Chevy II's.

Even Da Grump (who wrecked his '66 L-79 match racing and bought two '67 L-79 cars to replace it with one being held in reserve as a spare) where well aware of the up coming 1968 Nova SS 396 car and had prototypes to look at in 1967).

Chevrolet intentionally banned all L-79 orders to promote their new for 1967 SS 350 Camaros or the equally new 302 Z/28 as race cars they wanted on the track for people to see on Sunday (so that come Monday the public would clammer to buy one on Monday).

Any 1967 L-79 car you find will have been originally in the possession of a successful or at least famous SS class drag racer who had probably campaigned it that race season (which can add to the value of the car).

Chevy sold some of these cars as a body in white with the power train on a pallet shipped with the body. Any &quot;barn Find&quot; of a complete, virgin stock car is going to be immediately suspect. This is one rare car that has been well documented as to it's origins and it's scarci</span>ty.</span> </div></div>

wow! where do these guys come up with this crap. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/bs.gif

[JayR]

Wow! Another 1967 L79 comes out of the woodwork. I got an e-mail from Jack Duer a few months ago and he's sold his car to Dan Miller, so Dan now has two 1967 L79s. Both these cars are POP documented. Jack's car also had additional factory paperwork.

A few years ago, another 1967 L79 surfaced in Oklahoma City. The POP and original delivery sheet were still with the car. Unfortunately, the engine is gone, but the original 4 speed tranny and rearend remain. Body build date is 06D and the POP shows a suffix code with a mid June date and ZI engine.

It's hard to believe that if only six of these cars were built, up to four are still in existence. In my discussions with Jack Duer, he thinks the GM production figures may be incorrect and more than six were built. Interesting possibility.

Incidentally, the question comes up from time to time about 1967 L79s built in Canada. GM Canada informed me a number of years ago that they didn't build any 1967 Chevy II or Acadian L79s.

Bob
Canadian L79 Registry

[GaryC]

This is a really great post guys and very informative. I don't really know anything about these cars at all except what I'm reading here so far. I can remember first reading about the L79 back around 74-75 but was thinking I couldn't have one of those could I? I bought this 66 in the late 80's, see pic below, and I did get a little bit of history on it the short period of time I owned it. This car had no SS emblems on it anywhere inside or out. It was a 4 speed car, but had a manual shift T350 in it with 4 speed pedals still hanging in it, and had a 12 bolt posi rear with 4.56's. and the info I got from PO was it had the original 327 in it, however it had some mods done to it before I acquired it. How much of the engine was still original I couldn't say but it had a 30-30 cam, GM aluminum intake and a Holley 650 double pumper.

If this car wasn't an SS then what was it? The 12 bolt threw me until I remembered a friend of mine that had a 67 SS in our Air Force days at Dover AFB had to yank his 12 bolt out when he twisted the passenger side tube and cocked the wheel flange. He temped in a Camaro rear and it was actually wider than the Chevy II rear, so I at least think the rear was original to my 66. Was it possible to get a hi-po Chevy II this way or was it suppose to be an SS? I've always been curious about this car and still kick my self for getting rid of it. It sure was a beast and a fun to drive car.

If this wasn't an L79 then what was it really? I am really curious.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/08/full-13756-6264-66nova.jpg

[Fast67VelleN2O]

You could get an L79 without the SS package. All Novas equipped with 275hp or more received the 12 bolt.

[GaryC]

Interesting. Wondering if there were a lot of 66 L79's. Not to say this one I had was or wasn't, but like I said, this post has got me thinking of the 66 I had. Is there somewhere on line or somebody here that has the info I would need to have if I was to locate this car?

[JayR]

The L79 engine could be ordered for any model of 1966 Chevy II. Most were Super Sports, but there were also 2 door bench seat hardtops, 2 door sedans and there were even a few L79 wagons. There was no PG option for L79 cars. They were either 3 speed manuals on the column or 4 speeds on the floor and they were all 12 bolts.

Bob

[JayR]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GaryC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting. Wondering if there were a lot of 66 L79's. Not to say this one I had was or wasn't, but like I said, this post has got me thinking of the 66 I had. Is there somewhere on line or somebody here that has the info I would need to have if I was to locate this car? </div></div>

There were 5481 Chevy II L79s built in the U.S. in 1966. 3547 were Super Sports. The remainder were Sport Coupes, 2 door sedans and a few wagons. The car in your picture is a 1966 Chevy II Nova bench seat Sport Coupe (non SS). If you still have the VIN for this car, you could try a search on some of the Chevy II websites. Stevesnovasite.com is a good dedicated Chevy II site.

Bob

[GaryC]

Actually this was a console bucket seat car. When I sold the car, the guy that owned it 3 previous owners before bought it back from me and he wanted to know what happened to the interior. He said it was a black bucket seat car with console. It was gutted when I got it with leather bucket seats from a Cougar and I had no idea what happen previous to me owning it. Story goes a Wilmington DE, cop ordered 2 identical cars, one for the street and one for drag racing. How they got split up I haven't got that info. I don't believe I'll be able to find the first owner today, would be nice to talk with this guy.

I really liked this car. Don't see any around in my area even at the local car shows.

[markinnaples]

Gary, that Chevy II looked tough when you had it.

[GaryC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gary, that Chevy II looked tough when you had it. </div></div>


Yeah, it was a blast to drive. My wife hated it. She wanted to just jump in and go, but the engine had to be warmed up first or it would stall on her and having a manual valve body didn't go over too well either, plus she had a difficult time operating the B&amp;M Z-Gate shifter. No interior, aluminum panels, 3 point roll bar and the car was very loud inside and out. The kids loved hanging on to the roll bar going down the street. I can still hear them screaming go faster daddy over the engine noise. With the 4.56's the kids always thought I was going fast at 25 mph. Only problem I had with that car was passing Delawares decibel level laws. If I remember correctly at 3000 rpm the DB was around 102 with the turbo mufflers on it. The state didn't like that too much so I sold it because it wouldn't pass state inspection. I haven't seen it since 90 or 91.

[bigsixman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 Nova Boy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What don't you agree with?

Dave
67 Nova Boy </div></div>

67 Nova Boy: The last two paragraphs of post 538754 from cook dw.

I do not doubt the existence of the cars actually being built at all. I am curious of the reasons that GM built the cars late in the year with the engine induction similar to the 68 L-79. I have been aware of the two cars that Dave Duoer (sp) now owns for a few years.

[wagonman]

I agree with tom406 if restored correctly it could bring 100-125K.

I looked over Jack Duer's car very well his first year of showing at Nova Nationals.
Beautiful car with nice options.In my opinion it would be hard to beat as i am partial to that color combo.While looking it over and speaking with Wayne Bushey we had a figure in mind.I was surprised it sold for well under that figure.If you really want to know the value you may need to speak to Jack or Dan Miller.But comparing this car to his may not be a fair comparison.

<span style="font-weight: bold">BTW why are we discussing this car WITHOUT PICTURES!</span>

[442w30]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JayR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
There were 5481 Chevy II L79s built in the U.S. in 1966. 3547 were Super Sports. </div></div>

Where are your numbers from?

It's been my observation that Chevy motors can only be determined by total production and not by model. This is the first time I've seen reference to different Chevy II models. Is &quot;3547&quot; documented?

[JayR]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 442w30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JayR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
There were 5481 Chevy II L79s built in the U.S. in 1966. 3547 were Super Sports. </div></div>

Where are your numbers from?

It's been my observation that Chevy motors can only be determined by total production and not by model. This is the first time I've seen reference to different Chevy II models. Is &quot;3547&quot; documented? </div></div>

The 5481 number has been around since the early 80's. The other numbers have been around for years, too. I believe the 5481 is documented. Don't know about the others. GM Canada has engines by model (144 L79 SS Chevy IIs/SD Acadians), so I assume these figures might exist for U.S. built cars, too. Or not?

Bob

[442w30]

Well, the 5481 is documented (1980s or not, as the &quot;1 0f 18&quot; LS6 ragtop thing has been floating around since the 1980s), but anything by bodystyle or model tends to arouse suspicions from me, knowing what I know about Chevys.