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resto4u
11-14-2013, 01:49 AM
They say it is #7 but color is not right and engine pained orange. Looks like a regular copo. ????? ebay zl-1 ???? (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-C-O-P-O-1969-camaro-c-o-p-o-427-big-block-/131046162190?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1e82f5bf0e&i tem=131046162190&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)

11-14-2013, 02:04 AM
Big line up in that stable.

Alss
11-14-2013, 02:08 AM
not a Zl-1...juts a regular COPO L-72 <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif..love the light green interior

Kurt S
11-14-2013, 03:29 AM
That's the green on green Dale Chev L72 - thought it sold at B-J this year for $115K?

Charley Lillard
11-14-2013, 05:01 AM
I usually don't comment on someones asking price but has a iron block COPO ever sold for 390K ? That is quite the asking price.

twertsy
11-14-2013, 10:21 AM
Since Charley brought it up, recently there have been multiple 9561s come up for sale asking north of $150k (sometimes Arctic). Where is this coming from and how is it justified? I haven't seen any trend to indicate these prices are justifiable in any auction setting. Hagerty's price guide (http://www.hagerty.com/price-guide/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro) says the average price for these cars is $133,555. What's going on? Trying to artificially inflate the value of these cars?

Tracker1
11-14-2013, 11:05 AM
Maybe they put up the wrong pictures by mistake and they actually do own #7 or their ebay account has been hacked by a scam artist. I can't see any dealer being that out of touch with 9561 prices.

especially when this gem can be bought for 200-250K:

http://www.yenko.net/features/2003/July2003.htm

bashton
11-14-2013, 11:52 AM
I always find it amusing when a dealer/broker can't even write a proper description, refuses to use spell check and quotes incredibly inaccurate information.<span style="font-style: italic"> Especially</span> when trying to sell high dollar cars. And what is more amazing to me is that someone with the means to own such a car would allow it to be represented in such a manner.

In my opinion...the red flags are waving!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

bergy
11-14-2013, 12:25 PM
First 140 mph speedo that I've seen with speed minder. Looks like just 9561 - no 9737 &amp; no X-11.

olredalert
11-14-2013, 01:59 PM
----I have only ever seen one COPO with this color combo and it was Canadian ordered. Anyone with a serious interest might check that out. That particular car was brought back to the US and correctly restored (for the time) on Cape Cod. It may have had a lot done to it by this time as its been quite awhile. Chris W. may remember that COPO as well....Bill S

427.060
11-14-2013, 02:20 PM
The seller hasn't sold anything in the last year and all of a sudden they list $600,000 worth of cars. something doesn't seem quite right here.
James

rich p
11-15-2013, 03:11 AM
Rough crowd!! Dont ever want to walk threw your guys hood!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Billohio
11-15-2013, 03:25 AM
They emailed me back and said they have documentation on it. Clueless....

11-15-2013, 03:35 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Billohio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They emailed me back and said they have documentation on it. Clueless.... </div></div>So by what you have written....the rest of us are clueless. Don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Billohio
11-15-2013, 12:02 PM
Told them it couldn't be a zl-1 and l72

Charley Lillard
11-15-2013, 02:21 PM
I was also wondering why the clueless comment but then read this description.

&quot;This rare factory race car was set up by the factory to set the bar for performance of the era. Starting with a 427 Big Block that producing nearly 425peak horsepower. It features an aluminum block and heads.


The Brakes were also beefed up at the factory and set up to compliment the massive power this truly rare care is capable of.


This C.O.P.O is a matching numbers, certified number 7 of only 69 that were built of these special factory race cars.

This car has been through a frame off restoration in 2005 and has sat in museum status since then and is ready for a new home.

The interior feature bucket seats, center console shifter and is in authentic C.O.P.O green.&quot;

Charley Lillard
11-15-2013, 02:22 PM
They seem to be selling a COPO but think they have a ZL1.

Mr70
11-15-2013, 02:32 PM
&quot;......and is in authentic C.O.P.O green.&quot;
As if there was a specific green shade they used on COPO's only. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/crazy.gif

69Tom
11-15-2013, 02:43 PM
Sounds like they might have the super rare COPO 9560/9561 hybrid as stated in its &quot;documentation&quot;.... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

PeteLeathersac
11-15-2013, 02:53 PM
Welcome to the blurrr of today's Copo market?
Obviously this is not one of the 9560 ZL1's.
What absolute facts are known of this car?
Is this L72 9N650526?
<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif
~ Pete

Kurt S
11-15-2013, 07:12 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this L72 124379N650526?
</div></div>
Yes, it looks like it. Don't think Dale Chev ordered 2 that color combo. It was at SCR 02.

resto4u
11-15-2013, 10:09 PM
Dale did sell a few copo camaros, i remember one that was drag raced and had low miles that was found near delavan,wi. but it sure is not this one.

William
11-15-2013, 10:31 PM
Back in the day Dale Chev was a regular stop on the tour for WI car guys. Former workers recall 6 L72 COPOs and 2 re-distributed Gibb ZL1s. 3 of the L72 cars are known to exist: this one, a Garnet Red 4-speed, a Yellow/Yellow 4 speed. A former co-worker bought a Hugger Orange/Orange automatic COPO there, not known to exist. Another was said to be Rallye Green/white standard 4-speed, raced since new and not known. Both ZL1s are still around, #7 &amp; #49.

Dale did 427 conversions, stocked Z/28s [2 JL8s] L78s, LS6 Chevelles. Not many seem to have survived.

Billohio
11-16-2013, 04:40 AM
Seller replied back its a zl-1! Starting to look like a scam

Billohio
11-16-2013, 12:23 PM
This morning got another message from seller. I had asked why there's a sign saying l72. He said that's wrong

427.060
11-16-2013, 03:28 PM
Has anyone tried calling the dealer to ask about the car? It looks like the seller has been selling mostly video games and dolls so this is probably a scam.

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GaryC
11-16-2013, 04:05 PM
If it has an aluminum block and heads why is it painted? You would think leaving it unpainted would help selling this car.

Billohio
11-16-2013, 05:15 PM
Seller sent me a number to call and I deleted it so I can't tell if its the same. Car is nice, doesn't match #7 at all.

Billohio
11-16-2013, 10:59 PM
Owners wife emailed and said they took out L72 and put in Aluminum motor. No pictures that I saw. Guy who listed it somehow added the zl1 car 7 stuff. She said someone will get it corrected. Husband out of town. Still have both motors. She said cast block is numbers matching.

njsteve
11-16-2013, 11:24 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Billohio</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Owners wife emailed and said they took out L72 and put in Aluminum motor. No pictures that I saw. Guy who listed it somehow added the zl1 car 7 stuff. She said someone will get it corrected. Husband out of town. Still have both motors. She said cast block is numbers matching. </div></div>

That sounds more scam-erific than before. I bet the husband was just transferred overseas in the military, and she can ship you the car for free, overnight, if you only prepay via western union, first. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

Billohio
11-16-2013, 11:52 PM
That's good!
Way overpriced