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mockingbird812
12-14-2013, 10:40 PM
<span style="font-size: 20pt"> Don't think they missed a single thing!* (http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0114-174267&amp;utm_source=emv&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaig n=FL0114-S139)
L78
L89
JL8
4 Speed
4.10
Tuxedo Black
ZL2
Z21
NC8
Endura Front Bumper
Every Piece of Factory Documentation
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*i admit I am very disappointed that it doesn't have the Rally Sport option! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/12/full-1691-8561-image.jpg

m22mike
12-15-2013, 12:45 PM
OK, I was not going to go off just yet on another L89 car. Here is the e mail I just set Phil when he asked me my thoughts on this beauty, it does sit nice ?

Phil
I would not believe it untill I saw the paperwork ? It would be odd if a Norwood car had any kind of a broadcast sheet, could be Van Nuys ? If it is so great why did they not even show a picture of the cowl tag ? That way we would know if the chambered exhaust is correct. Black car with a black grill ? Not ! Wrong steering wheel too.
I also did not know that the L89 heads were High flow and released additional HP ? If I were advertising a real car I would showcase all the paper for sure.
We will see.

Mike

Tracker1
12-15-2013, 01:19 PM
wasn't this car discussed here a month ago?

PeteLeathersac
12-15-2013, 01:54 PM
Buyer beware.
VIN 124379N690139
Sorry to see this being advertised as such by Mecum.
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~ Pete

m22mike
12-15-2013, 03:21 PM
Can you post that thread ?

Mike

Tracker1
12-15-2013, 10:39 PM
Mike, it's now at the top of the supercar questions &amp; discussion forum.....

Bill Pritchard
12-16-2013, 01:06 AM
Discussed at length here....

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthrea...ptio#Post547439 (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/547439/1969_Camaro_L89_with_JL8_optio#Post547439)

'Paperwork', you ask? Can be seen here...

http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classi...sationId=249425 (http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-1177852.xhtml?conversationId=249425)

bkhpah
12-17-2013, 12:09 AM
Doesn't look like it had the ZL/2 hood from new. Not according to the firewall picture anyway..BKH
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/12/full-10-8580-0_pictures_page_01.jpg

resto4u
12-17-2013, 03:04 PM
The seller is responsible for the description, and the buyer is responsible to due their homework. It is not not mecum's responsiblity! But when the car comes on the block, i would just announce that mecum has not verified it's authenticity.

DEUCE
12-17-2013, 05:02 PM
I love the bright cad plated bolts on the 12 bolt, LOL

al8apex
12-17-2013, 05:14 PM
^ ditto but wasn't going to say anything ... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

PeteLeathersac
12-17-2013, 07:16 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: resto4u</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The seller is responsible for the description, and the buyer is responsible to due their homework. It is not not mecum's responsiblity! But when the car comes on the block, i would just announce that mecum has not verified it's authenticity. </div></div>

Sorry but that's a cop-out being the words 'well documented' is included as part of Mecum's title line for the vehicle.
Not that bogus info on descriptions/paperwork/placards etc should be acceptable either but the auction co. shouldn't be letting consigners verse their titles too.
What of phone bidders who read info online etc but aren't there to hear verbal disclaimers?
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~ Pete

resto4u
12-18-2013, 03:50 PM
Mecum Disclaimer: Information found on the website is presented as advance information for the auction lot. Photos, materials for videos, descriptions and other information are provided by the consignor/seller and is deemed reliable, but Mecum Auction does not verify, warrant or guarantee this information. The lot and information presented at auction on the auction block supersedes any previous descriptions or information. Mecum is not responsible for information that may be changed or updated prior to the auction. The decision to purchase should be based solely on the buyers personal inspection of the lot at the auction site prior to the auction.
My opinion, If you have this kind of wealth to purchase such a car; then you have the time, money, means and resources to vet it's authenticity.
Is this the car from Ledgendary motor's in canada?

Lynn
12-19-2013, 03:57 PM
<span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;descriptions and other information are provided by the consignor/seller and is deemed reliable, but Mecum Auction does not verify, warrant or guarantee this information&quot;.</span>
Still, if Mecum knew or should have known about issues that would amount to fraud, I don't know that this will get them off the hook.

<span style="font-weight: bold">&quot;My opinion, If you have this kind of wealth to purchase such a car; then you have the time, money, means and resources to vet it's authenticity.&quot;</span>
I have to respectfully disagree. It is OK to lie and cheat a wealthy guy just because he had the resources to stop you from cheating him, but chose to believe you? I don't think so.

Not saying that one SHOULDN'T have the car verified. Just saying the real blame shouldn't be on the rich guy who didn't discover the fraud. The real blame goes to the guy who COMMITTED the fraud.

If this car is counterfeit, then calling the docs &quot;factory documentation&quot; is fraud. Period.

Lynn
12-19-2013, 04:09 PM
Based on that pic, I don't believe the car pictured had a factory tach either.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doesn't look like it had the ZL/2 hood from new. Not according to the firewall picture anyway..BKH
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/12/full-10-8580-0_pictures_page_01.jpg
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Billohio
12-21-2013, 04:35 PM
I was looking over the auction this morning and ran across a rare 69 chevelle with matching numbers 396/375 that has factory air. and a cast intake. hmm. you would think someone at mecum would catch that stuff and tell the owner to correct it

Born30YrsLate
01-01-2014, 03:57 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lynn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Based on that pic, I don't believe the car pictured had a factory tach either.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bkhpah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Doesn't look like it had the ZL/2 hood from new. Not according to the firewall picture anyway..BKH
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2013/12/full-10-8580-0_pictures_page_01.jpg
</div></div> </div></div>

Noted that the shell appears to have a hole for a factory rear antenna...paperwork shows D80 option (couldn't have both)...restored car has front antenna...just sayin... would be nice to have seen pics of the car prior to being stripped to a shell...or able to verify the identity of the shell as this car...

DW31S
02-28-2014, 08:04 PM
$200,000.00 sale price. New definition and storyline for &quot;The Great Imposter&quot;.

John
03-16-2014, 10:10 PM
.... I would guess that by now the new owner would have been told what he really got <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif

Lynn
03-17-2014, 03:04 AM
Once again, does anyone know who bought this? PM me if you don't want to go public.

John
07-20-2014, 05:43 PM
Where did this car go? <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif