Day 2 wheel suggestions?

[DRCBOWTIE]

I have a 68 SS 350 and want to do Day 2 wheels. Currently have 14x6 Torq Thrust D's on 215/70 redlines. But want a fatter Day 2 look. Thinking of 15x7 and 235/60/15's. Considered Cragar SS, 69 factory SS wheels (15"), steel with dog dish, Rally with flat Disc Brake caps, etc.

Suggestions would be appreciated.

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-143-2979-dsc_0712.jpg

Thanks. Doug

[markinnaples]

I would totally do the Cragar SS deal with some wider 60's (I would, personally, do N50's, but I'm a big fan of the 70's Street Freak deal).

BTW, your Nova is beautiful.

[DRCBOWTIE]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: markinnaples</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would totally do the Cragar SS deal with some wider 60's (I would, personally, do N50's, but I'm a big fan of the 70's Street Freak deal).

BTW, your Nova is beautiful. </div></div>

Thanks, here is another shot showing the stance, needs wider rubber.
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-143-2980-dsc_0707.jpg

[Plowman]

Try some Tow Tabs on it too help the Day 2 look. Can't go wrong with Cragars.

[MosportGreen66]

Grady nailed the look with his L78 Nova... I'll post photos tonight if no one does it prior

[Salvatore]

The car looks great as it is BUT if you want a change with that color I would go Cragar with some H70's on a 6 or 7 inch rim in the back not sure if L-60's fit novas without a little rear height adjustment and maybe F70's on a 5 or 6 inch rim in the front. Goodyear raised whites. NO dog dish steelie crap. That was the first thing that got canned in the old days!

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

L60's are tough to fit because of the square tread pattern, but a 235-60-15&quot; is the perfect balance and doesn't need any height adjustment or uniquely backspaced rims.

Here's an L60-15&quot;:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova1.jpg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/aacorp/media/71Nova1.jpg.html)

Here's a 275-60-15&quot;, essentially a radial version of the L60 but you get less lip interference because of the rounded tread pattern:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/71Nova3.jpg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/aacorp/media/71Nova3.jpg.html)


Here's a 255-60-15&quot;, which fits pretty good but you might have to watch the backspacing:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/aacorp/BennNovateardown1.jpg (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/aacorp/media/BennNovateardown1.jpg.html)

[PxTx]

I would order a set of cragar SS wheels with a custom back space. I think the safe bet is 15x8 with a 5.5 or so back space. Run the L60's and look like a BOSS! The adder for custom offset is very fair. Yes, the popular fix for wrong offset was air shocks, but the 5.5 bs is better for a Nova. Depending on how centered the rear is, you might have to mess with a slight spacer (possibly on one side only).

No radials allowed when considering Day 2 look.

[Damien]

Doug, as others have said, your car looks great with the torq thrusts and redlines, but for a change SS Cragars will looks great. Get the backspace right and you'll never look back. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Bill Rose]

After getting advise from a few guys here on SYC, I decided to go with Cragars. I wanted cheater slicks for that day 2 look. I went with 14 x 7's on the back, and 15 x 6's up front. The back tires fit up inside the wheelwell with no rubbing. If you go with 8&quot; wheels get the back spacing right as stated above. I also got the tow tabs as suggested.

Here's a shot with the Cragars, and below in my sig picture is a shot with the 15&quot; SS wheels, with G-70-15's (all 4)

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/100_4182.jpg

[PxTx]

Bill, that car looks great! DAY 2 Novas are my favorite kind of Muscle Car.

[Salvatore]

I like the nylon thumpers on that gold nova Bill!

[DRCBOWTIE]

Thanks guys for all the suggestions.

I'm leaning to the Cragar SS, and as mine is a 68 I picture in my mind the 68 Grumpy Nova. I like the blackwalls also, that was the no-nonsense look back in the late 60's early 70's.

I think Cragar SS 15x7 with 4.25 backspacing on all 4 corners. 235/60/15 fronts and 245/60/15's in the rear.

I'm a Bowtie guy, love the Camaros, Chevelles, big Impalas, but always found the 3 rd. gen. Novas the low dollar street killer. The Bill Rose Nova with the tow tabs is a great touch.

[PxTx]

If you like like the look of Grump's car, I would reconsider the front tire and rim choice. I think a 4.5&quot; wide with a tall skinny front tire is more I following that style. Might have to remove or address one I new fender bolt.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/9566BA/Old%20school%20pictures/GrumpysToybeforeandafterpart2.jpg

[Bill Rose]

Here's a little addition I got from Santa Claus (aka Jim Hanke).....the stainless steel pins for the tow bar tabs.

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/100_4211.jpg

[Salvatore]

Hanke is the man. Looks great Bill!

Doug, not sure I would do the radials if you want the &quot;correct&quot; look. You want the drag look...... 6.70's in the front on the 4&quot; rims and 6 or 7 inch in the back with G or H 70's. I know H's fit because I ran them back in 1970 on my 69 SS nova.

[mockingbird812]

Sammy knows what he is talkin about!!!!! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[DRCBOWTIE]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hanke is the man. Looks great Bill!

Doug, not sure I would do the radials if you want the &quot;correct&quot; look. You want the drag look...... 6.70's in the front on the 4&quot; rims and 6 or 7 inch in the back with G or H 70's. I know H's fit because I ran them back in 1970 on my 69 SS nova. </div></div>

Firestone Wide Ovals, yes that would look killer. But, I am going to drive this car, drive from Jersey to Pa. for Super Chevy Show, etc. How do the new Wide Ovals ride? Plus my 68 Nova is real old school...........manual steering! &quot;I don't need no stinkin power steering&quot;.

[novadude]

Bill Rose... what &quot;cheater slicks&quot; did you use, and how do they actually drive on the highways and back roads? Thanks!

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DRCBOWTIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hanke is the man. Looks great Bill!

Doug, not sure I would do the radials if you want the &quot;correct&quot; look. You want the drag look...... 6.70's in the front on the 4&quot; rims and 6 or 7 inch in the back with G or H 70's. I know H's fit because I ran them back in 1970 on my 69 SS nova. </div></div>

Firestone Wide Ovals, yes that would look killer. But, I am going to drive this car, drive from Jersey to Pa. for Super Chevy Show, etc. How do the new Wide Ovals ride? Plus my 68 Nova is real old school...........manual steering! &quot;I don't need no stinkin power steering&quot;. </div></div>

The radials will ride better but a good set of nylon thumpers will be fine. remember they ran on tires like that for many, many years before radials. Even the vintage style radials don't look like the old square shaped tires.

[markinnaples]

Are there any modern radials that look identical or very close to the old bias plys?

[hknladdr]

Very NICE!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Rose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">After getting advise from a few guys here on SYC, I decided to go with Cragars. I wanted cheater slicks for that day 2 look. I went with 14 x 7's on the back, and 15 x 6's up front. The back tires fit up inside the wheelwell with no rubbing. If you go with 8&quot; wheels get the back spacing right as stated above. I also got the tow tabs as suggested.

Here's a shot with the Cragars, and below in my sig picture is a shot with the 15&quot; SS wheels, with G-70-15's (all 4)

http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/data/500/medium/100_4182.jpg

</div></div>

[PxTx]

Coker has some radial that look like bias, but you'd never run them on a muscle car.

Sammy is right, these bias tires were good enough for years. I bet today's reproduction tires are better than they were back then. I'm not sure why there seems to be so much apprehension.

A wheel and tire change can really transform a car attitude. When I see cars running period tires and mag wheels- there is a real transformation in my mind. I find I'm not the only one who responds to those great looking square footprints. I think you'll enjoy the bias tires more than you realize.

Here is one of my favorite Nova's rocking a great upsized tire selection. Somehow these Nova's look great with 14 or 15&quot; wheels.

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Chevrolet/70-Chevy-Hurst-Yenko-Deuce-Nova-DV-09_GG_a03.jpg

[DRCBOWTIE]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Coker has some radial that look like bias, but you'd never run them on a muscle car.

Sammy is right, these bias tires were good enough for years. I bet today's reproduction tires are better than they were back then. I'm not sure why there seems to be so much apprehension.

A wheel and tire change can really transform a car attitude. When I see cars running period tires and mag wheels- there is a real transformation in my mind. I find I'm not the only one who responds to those great looking square footprints. I think you'll enjoy the bias tires more than you realize.

Here is one of my favorite Nova's rocking a great upsized tire selection. Somehow these Nova's look great with 14 or 15&quot; wheels.

http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Chevrolet/70-Chevy-Hurst-Yenko-Deuce-Nova-DV-09_GG_a03.jpg </div></div>

Oh yea, and those are the Hurst wheels. You guys got me thinking about some Firestone Wide Ovals on Cragar SS.

[DRCBOWTIE]

Oh man, this would look killer on my Nova. The 15x7 Cragars I believe are 4.25 back spacing. I think that would fit well, my Nova has the factory 4 piston caliper discs. Man, that would stand the Nova up like old time muscle.

http://www.cokertire.com/media/catalog/p...ne-f60-15wo.png (http://www.cokertire.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/380x380/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/i/firestone-f60-15wo.png)

[novadude]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DRCBOWTIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Oh yea, and those are the Hurst wheels. You guys got me thinking about some Firestone Wide Ovals on Cragar SS.

</div></div>

That's a great look with the RWL wide ovals. If you want to stand apart from the pack and go with a period-correct theme, make those wide ovals the 3/8&quot; pinstripe whitewall version. Looks good depending on the car. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif

[Bill Rose]

Be careful putting 15x7&quot; wheels on the front, with 4.25 back spacing. My SS wheels were rubbing on the inner wheel well, but it may be because I have G's on those rims. Those wheel are actually a 2nd set I put together for my 69 El Camino, but I switch them around on 3 different cars.

Bias ply tires are never gonna ride like radials, but they don't belong on muscle cars in my opinion, unless you're driving it a lot. My Nova rides nice with the bias plies up front, and slicks in the back. I think the slicks ride better because they only have 15 lbs of air in them.

I haven't driven the Nova much with the Firestones, because I didn't get the car finished too long before the snow/rain started.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I too would stay away from radials, I prefer the bias tires - and they ride fine (I'm so busy shifting, I don't even notice them!).

Paul is correct about using a wheel with the right backspacing, and that is the best way to go - you won't regret it. I was not able to stuff an L60-15 in the stock wheel well, but I was 17 - what did I know about back spacing, I was just happy to get a set of 15x8&quot; slots for $40! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[Salvatore]

14 or 15X6's on the front and 14 or15X 7's on the back. Or 14 or 15X6's all around. If you want the drag look do 14 or 15X 4.5 Cragars in the front. I would stay around the 26.5&quot;or so height in the front. The 4.5&quot; Cragars do not have much back spacing so you have to watch your tire height for turn radius. 3.75 to 4.0&quot; of back spacing in the rear is good with as wide as H's. L's would need some height I believe. Most slicks in the old days were mounted on 5-6&quot; rims so the foot print would not be over 7 inches.

[PxTx]

That is a good point Bill. I've never considered a 7&quot; wheel on the front of a Nova so that issue was off my radar. A 6&quot; wheel up front is more than adequate for most tire choices.

[Bill Rose]

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think you can get 6&quot; SS wheels. You'd have to put 14 X 7&quot; SS wheels, then use F or G-70-14 on the front.

If you want to go with SS wheels in the back, you can get 15 x 7 with G's with no fit issues. If you go to an SS 8&quot; wheel, I think you're looking for trouble, if you want them up inside the wheel well.

My Cragars are 6&quot; in the front, with 6-70 15 Firestones, for that skinny look. They fit over my brakes, but I have the 69 single piston calipers. I'm not sure about the skinnier (4.5&quot; wide) Cragars fitting over calipers. You'd have to research that.

The rear Cragars are 14 x 7's with 8.00/8.50-14 cheater slicks.


You're welcome to come here and look at any of my wheels. If you're in NJ, you can't be too far away.

[Salvatore]

I believe all new Cragars fit over calibers. never had that issue other than using some mid 60's wheels on newer disc brake cars.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Bill mentioned the 14 x 6 SS wheel and if it was available...The 1969 Chevelle SS wheels were 14 x 6....interesting considering the Camaro and Nova had a 14 x 7 SS wheel. From what I know, this was a one year only option.

wilma

[Bill Rose]

Tom, 69 Chevelles came with 7&quot; SS wheels not 6&quot;.... The 68 Chevelle was the last year for 6&quot; wheels in SS Chevelles, and those were rally wheels. As far as I know, no one makes a 6&quot; SS wheel.

[camarojoe]

14x6 Cragar S/S &quot;Sparklers&quot; on E70-14 Goodyear Wide Tread Redlines.


http://joeybsyc.smugmug.com/photos/i-tdrpc62/0/XL/i-tdrpc62-XL.jpg

[DRCBOWTIE]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Rose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think you can get 6&quot; SS wheels. You'd have to put 14 X 7&quot; SS wheels, then use F or G-70-14 on the front.

If you want to go with SS wheels in the back, you can get 15 x 7 with G's with no fit issues. If you go to an SS 8&quot; wheel, I think you're looking for trouble, if you want them up inside the wheel well.

My Cragars are 6&quot; in the front, with 6-70 15 Firestones, for that skinny look. They fit over my brakes, but I have the 69 single piston calipers. I'm not sure about the skinnier (4.5&quot; wide) Cragars fitting over calipers. You'd have to research that.

The rear Cragars are 14 x 7's with 8.00/8.50-14 cheater slicks.


You're welcome to come here and look at any of my wheels. If you're in NJ, you can't be too far away. </div></div>

Thanks Bill, I'm in Atlantic Highlands, N.J., it would be nice to see your cars anyway, such nice work.

I love the look of Wide Ovals, but I'm going to drive this Nova big time, like it was 1968. So that is why my first thought was radials. I'm confident 15x7 and 4.25 back spacing with 235/60/15's all around would work. Current 14x6 and 215/70/14's just don't have that fat muscle car look.

My 68 has a NOM block, intake / carb matching #, along with the trans and rear, paperwork from day 1. Even have the original radiator shroud for 68. So, I am building a 383 stroker that will look factory, big HP.

[PxTx]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 14x6 Cragar S/S &quot;Sparklers&quot; on E70-14 Goodyear Wide Tread Redlines.


http://joeybsyc.smugmug.com/photos/i-tdrpc62/0/XL/i-tdrpc62-XL.jpg </div></div>

Thanks for posting that pic. Those wheels are really cool! When Bob told me you owned then, I was hoping to see them on the Deuce one day.

[mockingbird812]

That's a great look on your Deuce Joe!

[SmallHurst]

Anyone having questions about bias-ply, give me a call. I can set you up with the Goodyears you need. My cell is 816-654-3400.

[WILMASBOYL78]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Rose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom, 69 Chevelles came with 7&quot; SS wheels not 6&quot;.... The 68 Chevelle was the last year for 6&quot; wheels in SS Chevelles, and those were rally wheels. As far as I know, no one makes a 6&quot; SS wheel. </div></div>

Bill...I always thought that was the case...but, in Colvin's Book Chevy by the Numbers 65-69 he lists a 14 x 6 Chevelle SS Wheel with both codes...YA and AO.*page 321
Maybe this is a misprint in his book <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

Thanks...wilma

[Mr. Chevy]

Here is my beast....... Rich

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/RICHRUTT/Picture6008.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/RICHRUTT/media/Picture6008.jpg.html)

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/RICHRUTT/Picture5995.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/RICHRUTT/media/Picture5995.jpg.html)

With Hurst Slicks out back

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/RICHRUTT/Picture4024.jpg (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/RICHRUTT/media/Picture4024.jpg.html)

[Bill Rose]

Looks great Rich. That Nova and Grady's Nova are the 2 cars I based my Cragar/cheater slick wheel package on. BTW Rich, do I see stickers on those tow tabs?

[Salvatore]

That is a great looking car Rich!

[Bill Rose]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Bill...I always thought that was the case...but, in Colvin's Book Chevy by the Numbers 65-69 he lists a 14 x 6 Chevelle SS Wheel with both codes...YA and AO.*page 321
Maybe this is a misprint in his book <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

Thanks...wilma </div></div>

I'm not sure what they mean by SS wheels on Chevelles Tom. I'm talking about the wheels on my El Camino in my sig. Those SS wheels didn't start until 69, and they were all 14&quot;x 7&quot; wide. Maybe Colvin's is talking about the Rally wheels/they came in many different sizes...14&quot;,15&quot; and 6&quot;, 7&quot;, &amp; 8&quot; wide. The 14&quot;x7&quot; SS wheels on my Elky are the only ones I know of, that Chevy used.

[PxTx]

Yes, Rich, Grady and Bill have done a great job. Here is another example of how you can't go wrong with Cragars on a Nova.
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/PxTx/MCACN2011178.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/PxTx/MCACN2011178.jpg.html)


Here are some other choices. Spyders? They are probably easier to find than old Keystones. These Keystone are not like the ones you can buy today.
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Spyders/oldsSpyders.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/mediahttp://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/PxTx/Funston002.jpg
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Nova%20Pics/MCACN2011192.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Nova%20Pics/MCACN2011192.jpg.html)

I know I've got more examples. Let me see what I can dig up.

[PxTx]

<span style="font-weight: bold">I couldn't post all the Nova pics I have with Cragar wheels, but here are just a few more since they look so good.</span>

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/day2phr_zpsf0605178.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/day2phr_zpsf0605178.jpg.html)

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/oldschoolpics12_zps986fc796.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/oldschoolpics12_zps986fc796.jpg.html)

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/user109593_pic213534_1282953549_zps032df207.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/user109593_pic213534_1282953549_zps032df207.jpg.ht ml)

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/WhiteNovaMGrove_zps858a94b1.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/WhiteNovaMGrove_zps858a94b1.jpg.html)

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/tumblr_ls787yjYz31qj9cz5o1_1280_zps11ad9297.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/tumblr_ls787yjYz31qj9cz5o1_1280_zps11ad9297.jpg.ht ml)

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/kingrat_zpsb520873c.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/kingrat_zpsb520873c.jpg.html)

<span style="font-weight: bold">How about some aluminum slots?</span>

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/1969427YenkoNovaoldpicKS_zps3ae1fdd0.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/1969427YenkoNovaoldpicKS_zps3ae1fdd0.jpg.html)

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/02-14-2011044134PM_zps9bd449a4.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/02-14-2011044134PM_zps9bd449a4.jpg.html)

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/ss215_zpsf0775c59.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/ss215_zpsf0775c59.jpg.html)

<span style="font-weight: bold">Another set of Keystone wheels, but the black rim out back and any mag up front is pretty bad ass on a Nova!
</span>
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/297634-novaHurst_zpsbcb232dc.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/297634-novaHurst_zpsbcb232dc.jpg.html)

<span style="font-weight: bold">Spiders again!
</span>
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/IMG_7750_zps3499d7bc.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/IMG_7750_zps3499d7bc.jpg.html)

<span style="font-weight: bold">As much as wheels are fun, I think Nova's have some of the coolest options for lump'ed hoods. L88, Stinger, Grump Lump, Plexi, etc. another great bolt on for a bit of summer fun!</span>

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/26865640002_large_zps7df48835.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/26865640002_large_zps7df48835.jpg.html)

[Salvatore]

AHHH, Shallcross Bros. Pro Stock nova! One of my favorites! A Jenkins Competition motor. Is Tommy Johnson's a Gibb Nova?

[DRCBOWTIE]

Well, Cragars are what I'll do on my 68 for sure. Just have to decide on tires. Thinking BFG Radial T/A's with 235/60/15's for real world driving, and I plan on doing trips, life is short.

But, the Wide Ovals just have that killer old school look. Not sure what would fit / look best. G60 x 15's or 14'S?

[Salvatore]

don't know I would do G's in the front. Maybe just the back? 14's would be ok. That is what they came with. A little taller and wider in the back then in the front in my opinion.

[PxTx]

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-143-2979-dsc_0712.jpg

The car looks hot! Since you already have the radials, go with the Wide Ovals!

[markinnaples]

That Econo Blaster Nova just reminds me so much of all the Novas around when I was growing up, love it.

[DRCBOWTIE]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-143-2979-dsc_0712.jpg

The car looks hot! Since you already have the radials, go with the Wide Ovals! </div></div>

Boy, dumb me! Good point about radials already on the car.

So, right now my 215/70/14's are 25.9 high, same as stock I believe. 3.73 posi rear,so my speedo is correct. My 14 x 6 Torq Thrust wheels have 3.375 backspacing.

Now, how about Wide Ovals F60 x 15? These would be 25.9 high but much wider. The Cragars would be 15 x 7 with 4.125 backspacing. My car has the front 4 piston caliper factory front brakes.

How would that fit &amp; look? Anybody have pics of F60 x 15's on a Nova?

[Salvatore]

Go with something DRC and let us know how you make out. Do like most of us do....have a driver set of radials with the Cragars or Torques and have a &quot;local&quot; driver set of Cragars and nylon thumpers. Maybe get a hold of Donny White (GTO DON) and visit his vast assortment of tires and wheel combos at his shop. That may help make up your mind. He lives in Philly.

[67 Nova Boy]

That's a good idea Sam...GTO Don has many rare original and repo tires to choose from. Bound to find a good set there for sure.

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[SmallHurst]

15's are easier tires to find. The largest 14&quot; Goodyear available is a G70-14. I do not know what Coker has. For 15&quot; Goodyears, you have E, F, and G in 70 series. For 60 series, you have E, F, G, and L's!!!!

[Jefferson]

old school torque thrusts 14x7.5 with f70x14's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Jefferso_n/2011-10-18165211.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Jefferso_n/media/2011-10-18165211.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Jefferso_n/P8260194.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Jefferso_n/media/P8260194.jpg.html)

No real side shots of it in strip mode but heres a cool picture.
I run steel 14x7 with mt et drag 28x9.0-15 on the rears

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Jefferso_n/308592_10151456481208722_664164486_n_zpsd1633aa0.j pg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Jefferso_n/media/308592_10151456481208722_664164486_n_zpsd1633aa0.j pg.html)

[camarojoe]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WILMASBOYL78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Rose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom, 69 Chevelles came with 7&quot; SS wheels not 6&quot;.... The 68 Chevelle was the last year for 6&quot; wheels in SS Chevelles, and those were rally wheels. As far as I know, no one makes a 6&quot; SS wheel. </div></div>

Bill...I always thought that was the case...but, in Colvin's Book Chevy by the Numbers 65-69 he lists a 14 x 6 Chevelle SS Wheel with both codes...YA and AO.*page 321
Maybe this is a misprint in his book <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

Thanks...wilma </div></div>

Misprint for sure... they never made a 14x6 SS wheel, however Motorwheel did produce that style wheel in a 6&quot; wide size, I used to have a chrome set of them in a GM bolt pattern.

[camarojoe]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmallHurst</div><div class="ubbcode-body">15's are easier tires to find. The largest 14&quot; Goodyear available is a G70-14. I do not know what Coker has. For 15&quot; Goodyears, you have E, F, and G in 70 series. For 60 series, you have E, F, G, and L's!!!! </div></div>

15s always look too big on a nova to me. Fat tires on 14's are cool though.

[mockingbird812]

That rally Nova looks just great on the street and track set ups!!!!

[PxTx]

X2! That pic of it hookin' is a trophy itself!

[68l30]

That is a GREAT looking Nova!!! I'm digging the track pic.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif


BIG

[mockingbird812]

Hey Jefferson - what are those tires (make/size) on your racing photo?

[Mr. Chevy]

Bill, those are NMW decals that I put on the tow tabs... A member here on the site sells them on ebay. His ebay name is tjada and he has a set on for sale right now for 9 bucks, eBay item number:
201014732510

Rich

[Bill Rose]

Thanks Rich. They're mine!!

[68ys8030]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/01/full-205-9203-rear69zee.jpg
Cragars and N50s for sure !

[SS427]

More Cragers on a Deuce.

[Plowman]

Love that color and more Cragers on a Deuce too.

[DRCBOWTIE]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body">More Cragers on a Deuce. </div></div>

Oh yea, 68!

What are the wheels / tire specs on that one?

[SS427]

Off hand I do not know but I will get them for you. The car is in storage at the moment.

[69 Post Sedan]

All the examples are great but these are the best examples of Cragar wheels/tires.

It looks best if you can fill the wheel wells....front and back. IMO

Kurt

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/oldschoolpics12_zps986fc796.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/oldschoolpics12_zps986fc796.jpg.html)

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/01/full-4752-9212-picture60081.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/01/full-4752-9213-100_41821.jpg

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics/usergals/2014/01/full-4752-9214-mcacn20111781.jpg

[PxTx]

http://www.stevesnovasite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44121&amp;page=17

This thread has some good info. Here is a great one from it:

15x4.5 Fronts 195/65/15
15x8 Rears 5 3/8&quot; backspacing 275/60/15



http://s892.photobucket.com/user/Newmanator/media/1969%20Nova%20SS/IMG_0030.jpg

I would run an L60 out back and prefer the tallest skinny I could up front, but the rim sizes and offset are right!

[PxTx]

http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/Newmanator/1969%20Nova%20SS/IMG_0030.jpg

[Jefferson]

http://www.carsmoveus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/1970ChevroletNova.jpg

[Salvatore]

Thats cool. Cal Tracs and all. I bet that car runs good!

[DRCBOWTIE]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/Newmanator/1969%20Nova%20SS/IMG_0030.jpg </div></div>

That sits real nice, what are the wheel (size &amp; backspace) / tire specs if you don't mind?

[ss427copo]

I have 8&quot; rear mounted on L60x15 and 4.5&quot; up front on F78-15 Firestones. Lousy ride; great look.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r59/nhra1060sc/tn_100_1124.jpg (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/nhra1060sc/media/tn_100_1124.jpg.html)

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DRCBOWTIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/Newmanator/1969%20Nova%20SS/IMG_0030.jpg </div></div>

That sits real nice, what are the wheel (size &amp; backspace) / tire specs if you don't mind?</div></div>

DRC, you are still asking those questions about size and backspacing?

[napa68]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jefferson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.carsmoveus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/1970ChevroletNova.jpg </div></div>

THAT THING IS SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What sizes are on there?

[PxTx]

In the post just before the pic are the specs.

15x4.5 Fronts 195/65/15
15x8 Rears 5 3/8&quot; backspacing 275/60/15

For some reason my link was broken. Doing things on my phone, it was just easier to post the pic in a new post. Sorry for the confusion.

My point was the 5 3/8th back space. I think that is the most you can do on a 15x8 Cragar. I think a true L60 on the back with the right offset Cragr will be a huge hit at all the events you'll drive to. I actually think the car I posted sits a bit too low in the front. I would lean towards a taller tire there, but the 15x4.5 wheel it right in my book.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DRCBOWTIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/Newmanator/1969%20Nova%20SS/IMG_0030.jpg </div></div>

That sits real nice, what are the wheel (size &amp; backspace) / tire specs if you don't mind? </div></div>

[DRCBOWTIE]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DRCBOWTIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/Newmanator/1969%20Nova%20SS/IMG_0030.jpg </div></div>

That sits real nice, what are the wheel (size &amp; backspace) / tire specs if you don't mind?</div></div>

DRC, you are still asking those questions about size and backspacing? </div></div>

I'm from Jersey, I ain't that bright.

[BLACKLS5]

OK, Are the dimensions listed for the Red car or Green car?

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DRCBOWTIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DRCBOWTIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> http://i892.photobucket.com/albums/ac127/Newmanator/1969%20Nova%20SS/IMG_0030.jpg </div></div>

That sits real nice, what are the wheel (size &amp; backspace) / tire specs if you don't mind?</div></div>

DRC, you are still asking those questions about size and backspacing? </div></div>

I'm from Jersey, I ain't that bright. </div></div>
Ain't that hard my good man. its been covered about 5X. 14 or 15X6 0r 7. E,F or G 60's or H 70's in the rear with no issues. Deep dish may require some raising in the rear but I do not think you are going deep dish! WHEWWW

['69Novajoe]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jefferson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.carsmoveus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/1970ChevroletNova.jpg </div></div>

THAT THING IS SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What sizes are on there? </div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">I totally agree!! It's got the whole &quot;package.&quot; Nice Nova!! More info please!!
Joe</span>

[PxTx]

The Green Nova has a great look! I would love to know more about it.

I do however, feel the rear tires kill the day 2 feel. Tread design and caltracks are clear signs of the modern era. I get it, the car looks great and I bet hooks even better than it looks. Just not everything with Cragars = Day 2.

The front tire combo is pretty nice. I would prefer a bias tire, but in that pic nothing is jumping out at me that is obviously wrong.

[napa68]

This thread is starting to suck me in. I see some Cragars on my Nova in the future. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[PxTx]

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vargo%202013/IMG_8749_zpse34b64fa.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vargo%202013/IMG_8749_zpse34b64fa.jpg.html)

Yes, early Nova's with Cragar's are cool!

[napa68]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vargo%202013/IMG_8749_zpse34b64fa.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vargo%202013/IMG_8749_zpse34b64fa.jpg.html)

Yes, early Nova's with Cragar's are cool!


</div></div>

What sizes there?

That thing is bitchin!

[67 Nova Boy]

Very nice stance Paul! Car looks great with those slicks and skinnies on those vintage Cragars.

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[markinnaples]

That green Nova is just sick; one of the coolest looking Day Two looks I've seen in a while (even with the tires and Cal Tracs - keep the tires and put on some Lakewoods and it'd be even sicker, lol).

[PxTx]

The 67 has 15x4 with a 5.60-15 Tiger Paw redline supplied by Donnie White. The rears are 15x6 with Hurst 7&quot; slicks. I can't recall the specific size but I think they are recapped on new 235/70 radials. It is the smallest 15&quot; slick Hurst makes. They are a bit bigger than the G70's we pulled off.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vargo%202013/IMG_8749_zpse34b64fa.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vargo%202013/IMG_8749_zpse34b64fa.jpg.html)

Yes, early Nova's with Cragar's are cool!


</div></div>

What sizes there?

That thing is bitchin!</div></div>

[Plowman]

from the Hurst site:

NEW HURST 27 1/2&quot;x7&quot;x15&quot; PIE CRUST
List $460.00 pair Slick
These tires are capped on Brand New Cooper Radial casing 215/75/15
This tire is available Full Slick $460.00 pair, Cheater Grooving at no additional cost on this tire, Custom Dirt Grooving available.
Price: Starting at $460.00 pair
Shipping Weight 37 lbs. Each

http://hurstracingtires.com/1093440.html

[Plowman]

Another Grady Nova with a nice tall front tire!

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/full-2974-130-tn_dscf1181_zpsa0f9468a.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/full-2974-130-tn_dscf1181_zpsa0f9468a.jpg.html)


http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/full-2974-129-tn_dscf1180_zps1c3212ac.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/full-2974-129-tn_dscf1180_zps1c3212ac.jpg.html)

[Salvatore]

Hey Paul, why the use of a tall front tire in drag racing? that car looks great Burchy!

[GaryC]

Didn't the taller front tire move the weight back a little from the front to the back. Added just that more to plant the rear tires...but I could be wrong...makes the car look cool too.

[L78racer]

taller tire was used for rollout aid.
http://www.nhra.net/dragster/1999/issue21/racing_technology.html

[PxTx]

Sammy, not sure this is the only answer but I recall Bill Jenkins writing abou a staggered front alignment. I think a tall tire would have a similar result and when used together, it would maximize the benefit. Bill mentioned how the configuration could aid in deep staging (shortening the track) or lenghtening the rollout to help prevent a red light. What are your thoughts?

[PxTx]

Cool article Sammy. Our very own Wayne S. Is the author. Gonna go read the rest of it now. Thanks Paul L78<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[GaryC]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78racer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">taller tire was used for rollout aid.
http://www.nhra.net/dragster/1999/issue21/racing_technology.html </div></div>

Yes...rollout too but I'm not up on the meaning and I do remember reading something about that in the 70's.

[GaryC]

Just read the article...and makes good sense to get that extra advantage especially if your reactions are really slow.

[Salvatore]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78racer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">taller tire was used for rollout aid.
http://www.nhra.net/dragster/1999/issue21/racing_technology.html</div></div>

Correct. better reacation time you can move on the yellow!

[COPO]

Plus gives you a bit of a running start.

[napa68]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Plowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another Grady Nova with a nice tall front tire!

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/full-2974-130-tn_dscf1181_zpsa0f9468a.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/full-2974-130-tn_dscf1181_zpsa0f9468a.jpg.html)


http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww101/Plowman7/Vintage%20Nova/full-2974-129-tn_dscf1180_zps1c3212ac.jpg (http://s710.photobucket.com/user/Plowman7/media/Vintage%20Nova/full-2974-129-tn_dscf1180_zps1c3212ac.jpg.html) </div></div>

This is not helping......................going to spend some money I was not planning on!

That thing too.......................just sick! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif

[L78M22Rag]

I've got a line on 4 Cragar S/S rims - 2 rear are 15x8 with 4&quot; backspacing and 2 fronts are 15x7 with 4&quot; backspace. They were originally put on a new 1965 chevelle when originally purchased.

Can anyone confirm how that size wheel would fit the rear quarters of my 1969 Chevelle? I don't want to have to do any trimming of the wheel lips, etc.

Also, any suggestions on tire size?
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/_202_zps1bdadcf6.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/helmuteckert/media/_202_zps1bdadcf6.jpg.html)
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/_20_zps8fba7c05.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/helmuteckert/media/_20_zps8fba7c05.jpg.html)
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/_203_zpsb4228542.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/user/helmuteckert/media/_203_zpsb4228542.jpg.html)

[PxTx]

I think those wheels work on a 69 Chevelle.

I don't buy the story of those wheels being on a 65 as that is an extremly tight fit. Clearly the wheels are at least 20 years newer than a 65 too.

What kind of tires do you like?

[Salvatore]

They look more like the flat style spokes to me. Maybe put on the 65 chevelle when it got restored? But from birth.....Maybe not.

[69 Post Sedan]

They might work but will be sticking out a little too far.

I have Corvette rally wheels on the back of my Chevelle and they are 4.25&quot; b/s.

The best b/s for a Chevelle with a 8&quot; wheel is 4.5&quot;.

Kurt

[Jim Ferron]

Those are 'new' Cragars. Uni-lug, chrome in recessed area way nice than gennies, center cap is different [as well as spokes flatter] Purists care, others don't. Since they are new, why not just buy new ones with a better backspage from Jegs?

[427freak]

I put the Cragars on the TA Challenger. 15x7 all around with 235/60/15 front and 255/60/15 rear.

[L78M22Rag]

Thanks for the advice guys. If they are not the original vintage cragar, I'm going to pass on them and keep looking... For a vintage 15x8 mag with 4.5&quot; b/s.
Thanks!